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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:22 AM
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OH HAPPY DAY....wOOhOO....PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP
2 hours ago...............http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060714/ap_on_go_co/republicans_ap_poll




WASHINGTON - Republicans are in jeopardy of losing their grip on Congress in November. With less than four months to the midterm elections, the latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that Americans by an almost 3-to-1 margin hold the GOP-controlled Congress in low regard and profess a desire to see Democrats wrest control after a dozen years of Republican rule.


Further complicating the GOP outlook to turn things around is a solid percentage of liberals, moderates and even conservatives who say they'll vote Democratic. The party out of power also holds the edge among persuadable voters, a prospect that doesn't bode well for the Republicans.

The election ultimately will be decided in 435 House districts and 33 Senate contests, in which incumbents typically hold the upper hand. But the survey underscored the difficulty Republicans face in trying to persuade a skeptical public to return them to Washington. <clip>

The election ultimately will be decided in 435 House districts and 33 Senate contests, in which incumbents typically hold the upper hand. But the survey underscored the difficulty Republicans face in trying to persuade a skeptical public to return them to Washington.


Woohoooo. 3 to 1 margin!!!!! Hey bush, guess that desperate struggle to find terror somewhere every day isn't working so good anymore.

Maybe you should get used to this you reprobate retard.
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enigmacat Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:24 AM
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1. Hahahahahahaha......
And, might I add, hahahahahahahahahaha.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:27 AM
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2. I had a Republican Clinton hater tell me yesterday
that she thought everything was going wrong. Taft is a freakishly looking idiot and she was glad that Delphi was transfering her out of Dayton so she wouldn't have to vote for her cousin again, Mike Turner!!

One less for Turner!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:30 AM
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3. Great, but I won't celebrate until AFTER the elections
I am certain they will try to steal them again, or else Bushler will cancel them due to war/terrorism/whatever.



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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:39 AM
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5. Right. Don't forget the math--26% can maintain Congressional control
theoretically, anyway. With the sophisticated redistricting at work, you can still win even if the popular vote is about 3:1 opposed. In other words, all you need is a 51% "win" in a majority of Republican-controlled districts.

We will only regain control if everyone out there works to unseat every Fascist congressman.

(See also my sig.)
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:53 AM
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9. No kidding, Rat
You are on target here, I can't trust this bunch at all. I expect them to do anything in an attempt to retain power, anything. They can't let us get control, they know they will be at the Hague so fast their heads will be spinning!
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:11 AM
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11. Of course they're going to try to steal it.
It is these kind of independent sources that we have to use as our battering rams. We need to be shoving this in front of every television camera we can get access to. This repitition effect becomes more and more demoralizing in itself.

How would you like to be defending these measures of American sentiment as a Republican? Instead of being in front of the horse and preventing it from running, we need to be in the cart cracking the whip.

Cheer this news, thank these pollsters for reporting it and shove it down the throat of every republican you meet!

It is these polls that are going to provide the foundation to expose the necessary discrepancies on election day. Demoralize, demoralize, demoralize!!!
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timontheleft Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:17 PM
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33. Great line and excellent advice
"Instead of being in front of the horse and preventing it from running, we need to be in the cart cracking the whip."

:applause:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:27 PM
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35. I know that's right
Ain't gonna be fooled again...

But yes, I sense people are getting fed up and are weary of terra terra terra, WAR and 4 dollar gas.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:35 AM
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4. The only problem >>>>>>>>>>
One bright spot for the GOP is that Republicans hold an advantage over Democrats on issues such as foreign policy and fighting terrorism — 43 percent to 33 percent — and a smaller edge on handling Iraq — 36 percent to 32 percent.

Democrats HAVE GOT TO start to talk about clinton's record on Terrorism and stop being afraid to call 911 a failure on the part of "Republicans" and Iraq should be deemed a "wild goose chase." I fear as the middle-east destabilizes Americans under the false impression that Republicans are better on "foreign policy" may not make the switch in November?

By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 19, 2001; Page A01

Beginning on Aug. 7, 1998, the day that al Qaeda destroyed the U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, Clinton directed a campaign of increasing scope and lethality against bin Laden's network that carried through his final days in office.

• In addition to a secret "finding" to authorize covert action, which has been reported before, Clinton signed three highly classified Memoranda of Notification expanding the available tools. In succession, the president authorized killing instead of capturing bin Laden, then added several of al Qaeda's senior lieutenants, and finally approved the shooting down of private civilian aircraft on which they flew.

• The Clinton administration ordered the Navy to maintain two Los Angeles-class attack submarines on permanent station in the nearest available waters, enabling the U.S. military to place Tomahawk cruise missiles on any target in Afghanistan within about six hours of receiving the order.

• Three times after Aug. 20, 1998, when Clinton ordered the only missile strike of his presidency against bin Laden's organization, the CIA came close enough to pinpointing bin Laden that Clinton authorized final preparations to launch. In each case, doubts about the intelligence aborted the mission.

• The CIA's directorate of operations recruited, trained, paid or equipped surrogate forces in Pakistan, Uzbekistan and among tribal militias inside Afghanistan, with the common purpose of capturing or killing bin Laden. The Pakistani channel, disclosed previously in The Washington Post, and its Uzbek counterpart, which has not been reported before, never bore fruit. Inside Afghanistan, tribal allies twice reported to their CIA handlers that they fought skirmishes with bin Laden's forces, but they inflicted no verified damage.


MORE

http://www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:41 AM
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6. We have GOT to attack the myth that Clinton was, and Democrats are, soft
That doesn't mean recasting ourselves as a Democratic PNAC, just doing as you've done--pointing out the successes we've had when we were in control, and the utter failures the GOPee "leadership" have produced.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:15 AM
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14. Exactly. We need to illustrate how our policies differ and are effective
vs. their "ineffective goose chase/money making/terror increasing" venture in Iraq.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:29 AM
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15. Should we leave the "terror increasing" part off of that?
Serious question. One thing I find frustrating about the way these Terra debates are framed, is how the right is CONSTANTLY telling America that doing this or that only "emboldens" the terrorists.

I'm all for shoving that rhetoric back at them if it's effective. But in my heart, I think it's fundamentally stupid to base our foreign policy decisions on what is going to make this or that terrorist nutter angry, sad, or happy. Some destabilization is going happen in some parts of the world whether we're trying to fix OR bollix things up.

I guess I'm saying that a lot of terrorism happening today probably would've happened with or without our Iraq money pit. I'd sooner argue that the money pit is just what it is, to stop feeding the Rovian arguments.

(If that makes any sense, and I'm just throwin' it out there for debate.)
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 11:47 AM
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26. Actually terror is up 5000 percent around the world since Bush invaded
Iraq. Not only is it a money pit, it's a counter productive one at that.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 12:45 PM
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30. I just wonder if end up in some dumb correlation/causation cycle
For sure we should acknowledge current levels of danger, but I just question the wisdom of attributing it to (say) Iraq, or Bush's stupidity. I'd love to do that, myself, but I don't know how much water the argument holds.

Or maybe it's just that we Dems don't have the stomach for the presumption-of-guilt such arguments seem to require.

Again, just thinking out loud here. And no argument that Iraq is a money pit, and counterproductive, from me at all.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:07 PM
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31. It holds a ton of water.
It not only holds water but terrorism experts will attest to it.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:30 AM
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25. how about attacking on the popcorn & petting zoo terror target list?
If that isn't an indication of this maladmin's idiocy, I don't know what is.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 11:48 AM
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27. Oh goodness, I think even the media is getting that straight.
I'd honestly forgotten that load of crud.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:52 AM
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7. I don't see that as a problem.
I am expecting Democrats to hang terror around bush's neck like an anvil. He attracts it like a buzzard to a rotting carcass.

People are starting to realize, when buildings are burning all around you, it's time to look for some firemen. Not arsonists. Bush has got half the damn world in conflict. And the other half holds America as the second least respected country in the world. People are finally getting the real picture.

Note in the article that it says when Democrats lost control and were brutalized by the voters, the polls showed a tie of who was going to win in November when the July polls were taken.

There is angry sentiment out there that hasn't even been measured yet. College tuition doubling, minimum wage squashed, borrowing money from China and Japan to give to the millionaires for their tax cuts.

This is great news because the Democrats haven't even started getting their message out yet. I think Pelosi is maybe finally realizing that and getting her kiester in gear.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:14 AM
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13. "I am expecting Democrats to hang terror around bush's neck like an anvil"
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 07:14 AM by gully
I expected this in 2004, it never happened. If it does, we'll win.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:28 AM
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24. And they have got to say the war was ILLEGAL and IMMORAL and that
it has to end now. If they play the , "Well, it's OK as far as wars go, but it wasn't run very well" game, then they will not win Americans over.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:53 AM
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8. Republican Made & Programmed Voting Machines Have Got
to go!

Republicans appear to be counting on their voting machines to give them the elections once again. I hope they can be stopped this time. In a free election Republicans will lose, they know that and they will try to fix the elections again. Reason why Republicans are not concerned about what voters think? I appears so.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:55 AM
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10. The elections are a looong way away in political terms
things change quickly.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:13 AM
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12. Doesn't matter until the results are in in Nov.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:30 AM
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16. Fine, I'll just send Yahoo an email and tell them
don't bother to print these stories. Nobody here gives a shit.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:52 AM
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17. Opinion polls haven't been reflected in actual election results for awhile
The key is to GET OUT THE VOTE!

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 07:56 AM
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18. I would love to get rid of these machines
let's do a paper ballot, and more important let's stay focused because it will get very dirty in the months to come. We all know their game plan, FEAR, DISCREDITING THE OTHER PARTY, FEAR, A TAPE OF BIN LADEN, AND 30 SEC SOUND BITES. Let us just get out there and vote.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 08:12 AM
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19. It's more than that Roland.
It's a two part process. Getting out the vote, and demoralizing the opposition to NOT vote.

That's why this is so frustrating for me to see this attitude on behalf of some of the long termers here. We should be celebrating and trumpeting this news, not giving encouragement to the slime we're looking to unseat that we're worried it's just a matter of time before they will use their tactics again. And ho hum, we lose again.

We need to make them eat these kinds of poll results until they gag. These are voters talking!!!!!

Not me!!! I'm going to blast this news in their face every chance I get for the next four months.

Just stop and think a minute. How would you like these polls to be the other way around ? I would hope, not so much.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:27 AM
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23. Look at like this, though...
3 - 1 odds in favor may lead to complacency in fence-sitters.

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 08:12 AM
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20. I must protest
"reprobate retard" is far too weak and kind as a description. :rofl:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 08:39 AM
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21. One of the precious few replies
I agree with in this thread which I thought would be good news with their morning coffee. But everyone is too preoccupied worrying about losing instead of applauding news they're winning. Guess I should keep my dancing donkeys in the barn.

As for the description, maybe you haven't seen my other posts and what I call him. LOL.

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:19 AM
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22. I usually just refer to our respective
bleeders as Wayne Kerr and Tiny Blur. :)
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 12:24 PM
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28. Not me! I appreciate the good news!
I have no idea why others don't. But this is the kind of thing we should be spreading far and wide.:toast: :party: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: When you lose your ability to celebrate and embrace the good news, the other side has won.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 12:40 PM
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29. Well people may or may not be waking up. It doesn't matter
if the vote is screwed!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:06 PM
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32. oh welladay!
calloo callay
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:24 PM
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34. Start thinking about a song for those adorable dancing donkeys
I feel a nation-wide party coming on....gawd, we'll be in the streets!!!

:bounce:

:toast:
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 01:01 AM
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36. Welcome Ms. November
I like your screen name! :hi:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 01:10 AM
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37. Hi from me too.
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