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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:11 AM
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Joe Wilson on CNN
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:17 AM
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1. Nora - The PR Flak Of The Bush Reich
is on now spinning for the administration...

her inflections are so obvious.... give it up Nora
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:23 AM
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5. Not even a pretense of objectivity
It is sad, I wish they would stop misrepresenting this shit as "News" and label it truthfully as "Opinion" or "Entertainment". Perhaps it could be titled "Editorializing' or even "Pro Administration Propagandizing" but it is false advertising to call this drivel "News" which has an implied warranty of objective delivery of factual information, IMHO.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:30 AM
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12. Propoganda Of the Old Party
or POOP.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:02 AM
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20. Big Giant Stinky
P.O.O.P.™
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:19 AM
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2. You are not going to believe the coverage by CNN. Despicable.
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 09:26 AM by higher class
They did not cover what the lawyer said because the CNN court jesters talked over him.

There were two little statements made by Plame and Wilson that were allowed.

The CNN court jesters were John King and Daren Kagen and it was deplorable.

They focused on Valerie 'sending' him to Niger as a counter to the Wilson suit. They tried to plant the idea that by 'sending' him - their case is compromised.

It was the worst CNN moment that I've witnessed in years (I have to say years as I try hard not to watch CNN).

I can't express fully how disgusting it was (for me).

There appears to have been no coverage at General Electric or Murdoch.

This was not news coverage by CNN, this was framing against the Wilsons in favor of the WH. They were good WH servants this morning.

This is neither a democracy or a free land. Everyone in the world shouls know what CNN really is. Court jesters in the castle of the Cheney-Bush 'throneship'.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:21 AM
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3. They also made it sound like they were filing the case now
because the main case by Fitz was too narrow in scope because of the limitations placed on it by the judge. They missed the point completely!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:44 AM
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15. We have to make the OJ comparison. Over and over.. n/t
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:25 AM
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7. I haven't watched CNN for at least six months
but while searching for the Wilson coverage, I watched CNN for a few minutes. You are dead center with the disgusting CNN coverage by Daryn Kagan and John King. Propaganda - pure and simple. There was no "coverage."

As I clicked off the teevee, I reminded myself why I never turn it on any more.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:25 AM
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8. This is what Germany must have felt like in 1939.
:(
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:26 AM
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10. I was glad to be watching on C-Span 3
They just ran the press conference as is.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:28 AM
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11. A co-worker tried the "Who's Who outed her" on me yesterday
I laughed at him and told him he is an idiot.

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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:47 AM
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23. You must have missed the coverage this morning
With Miles O'Lying and Jeffery Tobin. It was so disgusting that I was about to throw something at the TV. They went on and on about how this lawsuit was more of a publicity stunt and how Mrs. Wilson was just trying to keep her name in the news. They said they fact that she did a Vanity Fair spread and attended the White House Press Dinner would be used against her in court. I just couldn't even believe my ears when they said, "To be fair, her cover was blow BUT she is just trying to sell her books." Simply unbelievable
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:22 AM
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4. What is the site the Wilsons' have put up? Listening to
Nora, I have the irrestible urge to given them my lunch money.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:24 AM
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6. if you want to give a contribution
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:26 AM
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9. Thank you, alyce!
:)
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:32 AM
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13. We are now going to have to work hard to counter four claims that
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 09:33 AM by higher class
will be made:

> that she is doing this for profit
> that she is doing this for political reasons
> that she sent him
> that she was not undercover

We really need a fact sheet. I wish I had time.

Will someone send out a Victoria Toensing and Joe DiGenova alert if they appear?

Will someone send out a C-Span 1 or 2 replay time if they hear about it?

Thanks

I feel so dirty after listening to CNN.

I'm so glad that I am not forced into using Time-Warner for anything.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:34 AM
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14. I Sense A Losing Battle
Sorry, I know I'm always a downer. But can't you see already the media machine operating against them? Other than Olbermann, how much coverage is this going to receive?

And think of the forces they have against them. They have no illusions, and I admire them for their attempt. I would rather they try something, than nothing at all. But their challenge is great. And they are working against the Sith, in all respects, and against a Facist Regime, that is so in control of all that matters, as to make this as predictible as anything else they do.

As with Gore, and Kerry, and recent elections, and Fitzgerald, and........I'll wait out the results with anticipation, but almost a resignation as to the inevitible loss that awaits our side.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:44 AM
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16. Tyrants always fall.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - think of it, always."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:47 AM
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17. A Victory Would Be Nice
That's all I want. A couple of victories that matter and make a difference. It always seems we're playing against a team that CHEATS on such a brutal and consistent basis. Yet, nobody but us seems to realize, and those that do are powerless anyways.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:51 AM
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18. We needed that this morning~ there must be hope nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:02 AM
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19. "Ozymandias"---Shelley.
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 10:03 AM by WinkyDink
I MET a traveller from an antique land
Who said:—Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command 5
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: 10
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:30 AM
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21. No matter what Cheney pulls, there will be some good. The
discovery content will live in history whether disclosed in our lifetimes or not.

Cheney and PNAC are not infallible. They have all the money of the barons behind them, but ir cannot rule over human dignity and idealism.

They have a monstrous job of jailing us or brainwashing all of us so that we can be the submissive twerps they need us to be.

They only have the loyalty of the UK, Israel, and Qatar/Kuwait/Saudi Arabia.

Though the potential harm of the leaders of the other Echelon owners is in question. Not the people of those countries, but their leaders - NZ, Australia, Canada.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:38 AM
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22. Channeling Eeyore
will not help. The case is decided in court, of course.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:48 AM
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24. There will be a jury in the courtroom and they not CNN will decide
:shrug: Of course the Media will downplay all this just as they have for over four years but the truth will come out in the court room and a few facts are indisputable. One. is Cheney did ask the CIA to find out about the claims of Yellowcake from Niger. Two. a CIA official made the decision to get hold of Ambassador Wilson, and it is documented it was not Valorie Plame. Three. Valorie Plame was not in any meeting where the mission was discussed with Ambassador Wilson. Those are all facts also it is indeed a fact that Valorie Plame was classified as NOC and indeed covert. Those are all facts that are indisputable and a jury will hear those facts.
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