what I just saw on CNN

[donsu]

(had it muted so don't know what was said)

first they showed a huge, huge, hole in the street from one of Israel's bombs

then they showed, from a plane, the sights set on the street and the bomb falling.

from the plane to CNN's newsroom - amazing

amazing evidence of CNN's complicity

[gasperc]

1. complicity??? this will enrage Lebonese emigrants

I'm here at my desk, my take is that CNN is showing what Israel is doing to Lebanon, the more the world sees this the greater the chance rage spills into the streets.
IF this is Bush's desire and CNN is being complicit then expect far far worse in the coming HOURS

[global1]

2. Fox Is Showing Huge Holes And Damage In Israel....

would you classify them as complicit?

[donsu]

3. yes

nt

[godai]

Yes, small rockets being used can't make huge holes

Your standard is FAUX??

[hippiechick]

9. I think it's sorta comical, FAUX ...

... their 'on site correspondent' is wearing an 'armless' flak jacket.
Yeah dude, that's going to help your head and limbs if something blows up in your FACE.

Posers.

:spank:

[havocmom]

10. "...they showed, from a plane, the sights set on the street ..."

That would have to be given to CNN by the folks in charge of that plane. That would take some pretty close co-operation.

[cantstandbush]

12. Are they showing it from a plane? nt

[tridim]

4. I find it simply insane that CNN has closed circuit live feeds..

direct from Israeli bomber cameras.

[Scurrilous]

6. Shock and Awe...

...cue the music!!

[donsu]

7. what do you mean - who gave CNN live feeds from Israeli planes?

nt

[havocmom]

11. From your own words in OP?

"then they showed, from a plane, the sights set on the street and the bomb falling"

That would require feed FROM THE PLANE to CNN

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

15. What are you smoking?

The feed is from the plane to IAF. IAF releases the tapes to news organisations.

[tridim]

18. Doesn't matter who the feed goes through

CNN had the footage a few minutes after the bombing.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

19. Umm...

Ya. It's this magical thing called "satellite broadcasting."

It didn't go just to CNN, you know. Jesus, this isn't anything new.

[tridim]

20. Showing nearly live footage of a bombing from two angles is new

It's well packaged propaganda.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

30. Fine.

I'm sure CNN is in cahoots with Mossad on this one, and they're using some sort of secret Israeli two-angles camera technology that is somehow fundamentally different in some vague and undefinable way from the same sort of military porn/drivel we've been seeing from the Pentagon in every "modern" war since Iraq I .

[tridim]

36. You're making way too much out of my comment

I'm not saying the footage is some sort of CNN/Israeli conspiracy. It might be, but that's not my point.. just that we've never seen bomb-bay footage of "death from the sky" so quickly. Someone fed them the footage (which is supposed to be classified) so it could be broadcast immediately, thus making this battle appear more like a video game to Joe Sixpack.

Are you really okay with that?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

38. No, I'm not OK with it at all.

And I think this is one of the fundamental problems of this whole "new war" kick we've been on for the past twenty years or so.

[havocmom]

22. Broadcasting bombs LEAVING THE PLANE after showing the bombsite

on the target is not SOP

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

23. Are you suggesting...

...that Israel told CNN where it was going to bomb, so that CNN could have camera crews ready at the bomb site? Where did the bomb site footage come from? Was it CNN's footage? It's being played on other networks. It's not in Israeli-controlled territory. Your assertion makes no sense.

[havocmom]

28. Your analysis of my post is the problem.

I am suggesting that if CNN showed the site on target and then bombs falling from the plane they got it from the folks who dropped the bombs, the folks who sent and flew the plane.

What is so hard to grasp?

It shows CNN isn't reporting as much as it is just broadcasting video powerful people handed to them

:eyes:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

31. I have no problem with calling them whores for showing war porn.

Remember those thorougly disgusting 3-d renderings of all our wonderful toys early on in the Iraq war? What I'm suggesting is that it's silly to claim that this is somehow fundamentally different from that.

[havocmom]

34. You suggested I was on some sort of substance which impaired

judgement.

That was outta line and not especially adept to make whatever point you are not makeing

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

35. Granted, that was out of line.

Apologies.

However, this is what you said:

That would require feed FROM THE PLANE to CNN

My point is that it does not require a feed from the plane to CNN any more than similar footage in previous wars has required a feed from planes directly into the newsrooms of various organisations. That's all.

[havocmom]

21. Reading/logic problem?

If CNN showed the bombs leaving the plane, they are taking video FROM THE PLANE. If the plane has an agent, it doesn't change basic fact.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

24. And I ask again...

how is this any different from the footage of planes bombing targets in Desert Storm, Bosnia, and the second Iraq War?

[tridim]

27. The targeting footage has never before been shown minutes after the fact

Until now.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

33. Am I missing something here?

You're saying they had footage, taken on the ground, of the bomb site, yes? How did they get that "minutes after the fact" then?

[tridim]

37. I only saw footage from the bombay camera.

Others have said they also had footage from the ground, edited, packaged and broadcast within minutes.

[havocmom]

29. They were our planes for starters? (in Desert Storm)

Why is this such an issue for you to attack people about?

[cantstandbush]

13. Perhaps now the backlash against the complicit, media which is

itself under the control of the neocons, will have some affect as millions of Americans come to realize how they are being used as pawns by the neocons to establish "greater Israel" and not a greater ME?

[jean]

39. makes you wonder if they're our planes

[PA Democrat]

42. Death and destruction is apparently good for ratings.

The weapons manufacturers aren't the only ones to profit from war. Enough to make you sick, isn't it?

[donsu]

5. how did the pic the plane took get to CNN's newsroom?

nt

[EFerrari]

14. BushCo's "Live Truth Feed from Everywhere All the Time" ?

:(

[Scribe]

16. It was undoubtedly released by Israel to the international press

That's how it got to Fox news as well. It is the same policy America took during Gulf War I when we saw all kinds of smart bomb footage from airplanes. Asserting complicity by CNN is the result of ignorance about how the video distribution business works.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

17. The same way that footage from American operations in Iraq gets to CNN.

This is not rocket science.

OK, actually it is. The magic of satellite broadcasting. Welcome to the late 20th century.

[global1]

41. Probably The Same Way * Saw The Plane Hit the Tower....nt

[malaise]

8. Wolfie is

Blitzing Lebanon. No surprise here.

[donsu]

25. I should have said 'who' instead of 'how'. I knew how

In a bumbling way I was trying to show how Israeli military is close linked to CNN

after watching it I was tongue tied trying to explain.

sorry

[C_U_L8R]

26. Yes isn't curious

how they always seem to have a camera
right there when the bomb explodes.
Once or twice is lucky... but this is ridiculously suspicious

[akushuki]

32. MAYBE a news station in Israel got the footage and is part of the AP? N/T

[deaniac21]

40. Well, they were able to have those different camera angles

of the hits on the World Trade Center.