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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:46 AM
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Pick and choose your battles.
We have several battles in front of us. We have to decide whether to filibuster the Alito nomination. We need to be ready to take advantage of the Abramoff scandal. We still have the Rove possible indictment out there. We have the NSA eavesdropping and laws broken by the Executive Branch. We have the failure of the ongoing war in Iraq and possible war with Iran.

Can we fight all these battles one at a time? Or do we need to surrender on any of them. Of course, we must realize that the Repubs have the same battles in front of them. I would say we should fight these battles one at a time, and more if necessary. Do not surrender on any of them.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:48 AM
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1. No surrender
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:48 AM
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2. I would agree with one caveat
We as a movement as Democratic Underground need to fight them all; but I have no problem with an us as individual members of Democratic Underground or the Liberal Movement deciding "Well The NSA eavesdropping is what gets me worked up, so I will focus on that."

As a whole though, I don't think we can afford to cede any of these battles.

Bryant
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:51 AM
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3. there are a lot of us
and we can multi-task, AND some of those battles have common denominators.

What we need is to control the news cycle with our own politicians. I am sick and tired of hearing their loony tunes people bellyaching on TV. Why aren't our politicians getting airtime on the Today show and on talk shows and news shows EVERY DAY?

In this forest if nobody hears you chopping at the tree, it won't fall.

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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:52 AM
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4. I shall revel in the gift of Jack Abramoff
I shall celebrate Fitzmas the whole year.

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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:53 AM
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5. No, I think we need to fight a multi-front War...
The Republicans attacked taxes, government programs for the needy, rejected treaties, appointed federal judges with nazi views and had their eyes on the Supreme court prize. they didn't do it one at a time, it was a coordinated multi front attack lasting decades.

Yesterday, Al gore fired an opening salvo that scared the shit out of the Republicans. we can't now fall back and fight one issue alone be it Alito, the illegal spying, the lie that killed 2200 americans in Iraq,the incompetence bred out of the neutering of FEMA,the incompetence of 9-11 doe to ABC (anything but Clinton's policies) function of the Bush Admin in 2001.

This is akin to WWII, we fought European and pacific theatres of war and won because of the multi front defense. Democrats need to adopt this tact to defeat our greatest enemies, The Bush republican party...the rapers of the Constitution.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:59 AM
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6. Be smart about HOW you fight them.
We have to educate the general population on why an issue is important, and why we are right.

If we fight stupid them we are like a bull against Rove's cape, until he thrusts his sword into us.

In 1928 Secretary of State Henry Stimpson shut down gov't spying saying that, "Gentlemen do not read other people's mail." He was refering to decoding other gov'ts cables, etc. Such a view is now consider laughable naive. If Bush is able to sell the general public on the need for it, then we risk becoming modern Henry Stimpsons.

To counter that, we have to tell the public why it is bad for them that the gov't is spying on them, and we have to show them that it does not help protect them. If we fail in that, Rove gets to run the sword home to our hearts.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:00 PM
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7. election theft would be another good one ot get on. i see
it put out more and more. i think something is going to break in this soon, too. with ney and abromoff and other stuff going on in ohio
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