So is this it?? Is this the beginning of war with Iran?

[hang a left]

Is this how it is going to go down?? Or will things settle down in a couple of weeks?

How many carriers do we have in the gulf??

What about that carrier group that was headed for the Koreas??

Could that be diverted??

What signs do we watch for??

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. Ya I guess the recycled Iraq propaganda wasn't getting traction.

[bridgit]

2. syria first is my guess...

[originalpckelly]

5. I guess we have to go track down the missing wmds, don't we?

GOD HELP US ALL!

[bridgit]

6. it's going to be very dicey, bush has that look like he doesn't care...

and he'll let cheney push the button...to my mind, that's the look he has, like he doesn't have to be witty or funny or appropriate cause he has 'the bomb', as though he feels empowered to stop it all and he's just waiting for the opportunity

God Bless The Child That Has It's Own

[serryjw]

12. Sounds like you are on to something

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2724323&mesg_id=2724323

[killbotfactory]

27. Syria and Iran have a defense pact, I think

Attack one, you get the other for free.

[bridgit]

28. i still think they'll pop-the-pimple in syria 1st, watch to see what...

and from where iran mobilizes if anything, and take it from there; n. korea knows if they attack japan they get us...but it's not stopping them either

all the rules seem like they are about to be thrown out the next passing window anyhow

[HysteryDiagnosis]

3. Someone leave a door open?? I feel a breeze.... or is it a draft?? n/t

[Homer Wells]

13. Ya wanna see people on the streets?

If a draft is weaseled through Congress, there will be protests worse than anything any of us from the Vietnam era could imagine on the streets of all the cities in America.:nuke:
As long as this is an all-volunteer force, the draft-age people don't feel threatened enough to speak out. Just let them feel that Breeze on their own behinds, and there will be protests too big to be ignored. A big political NO-NO for the NEOCONS. Would blow up in their faces!!!-

:popcorn:

[Generator]

4. And in three years when it comes out that the Israeli soldiers

were actually taken by a Blackwater type private army funded by the U.S. with fingerprints by Dick Cheney, will anybody care?

(YES I have been on DU too long now)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Naaah. We're going to invade Israel because they invaded Iraq.

Just like we invaded Iraq because they invaded Kuwait.

[whistle]

8. It will be unless congress can step in and deny further supplies and money

...to Israel for being a terrorist state

[paparush]

22. Who's Congress? OUR Congress???? LMFAO!!!

OUR congress who won't even try to reign in our authoritarian regime right here at home...our Congress that sits on its hands while Bush/Cheney feed the Constitution into the Paper Shredder? OUR Congress that bought the pack of lies that opened the door to the Iraq War?

Somebody's Congress...but not OUR Congress.

[Camp_Democracy]

30. Our congress supports the Iran Freedom Support Act

including progressive Dems such as Barbara Lee, John Conyers, Barbara Boxer...WTF!!!

This was fully pushed by the Israel Lobby and they all went along with it! WHY!!!

[Monkeyman]

9. Not watching the master mind Rove

He said "We will Win on the War and Torror issues" Dam right only way replugs can win is by going back to war and putting out phony torror alerts. Know your enemy to defeat your enemy first thing you learn in Combat. Rove never served but reads Westmoreland

[HuffleClaw]

10. my take is this:

israel will hit syria somehow, probably in the next day or so. syria will retaliate, maybe even declare war on israel. iran will bluster, but not act, which won't make one damn bit of difference. bush and israel will 'condemn' iranian 'provocation' and 'support of terror'. bush will issue some silly ultimatum against the 'syrian/iranian AXIS OF EVIL'. so, what will end up happening, is that SYRIAN military action will 'justify' american action against iran. bush WILL have his war, make no mistake. and its gonna happen very very soon. my guess is days, rather than weeks.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

11. Okay, that sounds plausible, except:

what troops will we use? nobody's going to be down for a draft.

[Webster Green]

14. No troops, just lots of bombs...

Shock and awe.

Lots of slaughtering of innocent civilians.

little lord pissypants loves that stuff.

[Monkeyman]

15. Yep a lot of movement at USAF bases

[hang a left]

17. Is there?

Or is that what to watch for??

[Pachamama]

33. Isn't this what Scott Ritter and Sy Hersh have been warning us was coming?

They have been right so many times before and they have been talking about this coming now for months.

I am so sick to my stomach right now. Why can't Americans wake up?

[HuffleClaw]

24. an air campaign

no ground troops. they've been prepping for it for some time now. they would have done this sooner too, but they had to replenish their stocks of cruise missiles and 'smart' bombs. we MAY get advance warning of it if someone manages to notice when they launch the stealth bombers from whiteman afb in missouri.

[hang a left]

25. So Stealth bombers would fly from here to there??

Where would they land?? Or would they have to?

[HuffleClaw]

26. they can fly for a looooong time with midair refueling

and they may have already repositioned some to diego garcia, a base in the pacific. but some of them would still have to take off from whiteman, which would almost certainly be noticed.

[windbreeze]

29. I am on the same page as you....absolutely...

They could see that we weren't buying into the thought that they wanted to attack Iran, after being lied into Iraq...sooooo, someone had to get something going that can be blamed upon Iran...in order to "justify invading"....and it sure as hell seems as though those details are being worked out as we speak...(I wonder why I keep thinking about all those secret, sneaky, underhanded black ops that have taken place over the years)...???


windbreeze

[mmonk]

16. This is what is happening IMO

Syria will come first. Read the securing the northen border part.
http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

[Pachamama]

34. Wow! This document is the blueprint for Israel's Project for the New

Israeli Century! :wow:

Anywhere Doug Feith's name shows up - bad news....

[Solo_in_MD]

18. No

Iran may be supplying arms and other aid to the Hezbullah, but they are not in there directly, giving Israel no excuse. Also by staying out of the actually fighting (fiery speeches are cheap) their ongoing nuclear program (whatever state it may actually be in) is off the front burner. This is really working to their advantage.

[RoyGBiv]

19. I dunno if this means anything ...

A friend of mine on a ship cruising outside the immediate area of conflict last time I knew is suddenly, and without explanation, no longer sending me e-mails. A lot of explanations could exist, such as him just being really busy at the moment with his normal duties, but it is curious. Last time this sort of thing happened, we were bombing someone a couple weeks later, and his ship fired the second cruise missile.

I have to be vague with the questions I ask him about what he's doing, and he's even more vague in his answers. Last note I got said something about his being on his last shore leave for awhile.

Could be something. Could be nothing.

OnEdit: Last month the AWACS at Tinker were doing a lot of training exercises. (Touch and go landings at Will Rogers, circle, touch and go at Tinker, circle.) I haven't seen a single one in about two weeks, however.

[nguoihue]

20. Is this the beginning

of war with Iran?

It will stay on cue with the PNAC script as it has played out thus far to date.

[paparush]

21. Its already started...there are special ops guys over there now...

[hang a left]

23. Yes I have read about that in a few different places

I think that is different than an all out shock and awe campaign and the retaliation that will follow.

[Raksha]

31. This is what I'm most afraid of.

It seems Bush is determined to have his war with Iran, one way or another.

[LaPera]

32. We did Israels dirty work in Iraq...now they are going to deliver Iran

and it's massive oil fields for BushCo & the greedy American fascist corporations that they haven't been able to grab as of yet...and Israel will of course prosper - with our tax dollars the dirty work and lies will continue. Israel has nothing to lose, they'll get & force what they want, they'll always have all the oil they need (we'll assure that) while our taxes are financing it all, as our kids will die...The pay back for BushCo for the use of our (tax paid) military is always oil profits, only for the few and the few will be satisfied...as we'll be paying for it ALL at the pumps as we go further into debt.

Greedy sick bastards. Seems like were in Napoleon's era...but I guess nothing changes...imperialism continues...