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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:03 PM
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What the hell man!?!?!? Bush rejects Lebanon's call for cease fire?!?!?!
Pig-boy rejects calls for a cease fire. Can I call him Pig-boy or is that Rove's nickname? How about Piggie? This pigman is going to hell. Straight to hell. The swine is not only a national embarrassment he is a global embarrassment. What can we do to see that his genes never again infect the gene pool? Let's hope that those two sows Jenna & Barbara never have children. I'm sorry, beg my pardon, Laura is the sow, I guess that makes Jenna and Barabara piglets.

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060714/D8IRVGT8I.html

Bush Rejects Lebanon's Call for Cease-Fire

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) - President Bush rejected Lebanon's calls for a cease-fire in escalating Mideast violence on Friday, saying only that Israel should try to limit civilian casualties as it steps up attacks on its neighbor.

"The president is not going to make military decisions for Israel," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

Lebanon's prime minister asked Bush, during a phone call Friday, to pressure Israel for a cease-fire. But Bush told Prime Minister Fuad Saniora that Israelis have a right to protect themselves.

"We think it's important that, in doing that, they try to limit as much as possible the so-called collateral damage, not only on civilians but also on human lives," Snow said.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:04 PM
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1. I think he's completely lost it. I'm afraid now.
Redstone
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:07 PM
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17. Was there ever a greater advocate for world peace than Bush?
Read the article again: he wants to limit collateral damage not only on civilians, but human lives as well.

No need to be afraid.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:15 PM
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18. That was especially hilarious. And sickening at the same time.
I'm getting worried now.

Redstone
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:05 PM
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2. Well he did say
"I'm a war president."
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:06 PM
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3. OK then this IS it
Israel is Bush's co-partner and stalking horse for the Iranian debacle. The madness resides in that they do this so bluntly and transparently as if the world is never supposed to imagine the truth enough to voice a suspicion. The arrogance is in this is exactly what Bush wants.

Another war, on schedule and according to plan.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:07 PM
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5. That is precisely what it is
Why do you think that Israel is blaming Iran and Syria for some of the bombings, etc...
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:07 PM
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4. And
we are suprised why? (Have I said lately how much I HATE these bastards?)

Jenn
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:08 PM
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6. Well, we know he doesn't care about foreign civilians, but did anyone
tell pig boy that there are also 25,000 US citizens trapped in Lebanon?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:17 PM
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8. bush doesn't care about our troops who are out there
also, one wrong move, our troops are in very grave danger.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:19 PM
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10. Indeed. Israel's actions surely will embolden the Iraqi insurgency.
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 09:20 PM by Jara sang
All cards will be on the table.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:09 PM
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7. They don't like realities
not of their own making. And besides, george don't like sharing wars with other countries.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:17 PM
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9. The code name is "Operation Dulce"
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 09:19 PM by StClone
Israel gets 11 Billion in aid from the U.S and would probably be dissuaded from war unless it was to the U.S.'s advantage to keep this conflict going.

Item: This conflict was planned well in advance.

Item: The U.S. has been involved in the planning.

Item: The U.S. could pull its aid at anytime to curb Israel's aggressions.

Item: Both the U.S. and Israel will *benefit from an escalation in conflicts. (For extra points *Quiz, name three ways total).
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:20 PM
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12. oh yes, this was definitely planned
I hate bush, and I hate what he is doing to the Middle East. We have no credibility no more, Israel told condi to back off. Who will diffuse this aggressive act?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:26 PM
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15. CNN said today this move was planned 5 years ago
Six years ago Israeli soldiers were pulled from the Lebanon border and it wasn't long after that, Israel started making plans.

On one hand, I don't blame Israel...this is Hezbollah they're dealing with, but there are far better ways to handle it.

I can't help but remember when Clinton was in office. Rabin and Arafat were on the verge. Peace was so damn close, but Arafat didn't take the extra step. With a little more effort and having someone like Clinton there, peace would have happened. I truly believe that.

Now, bush has sat with his thumb stuck up his ass, he's got his fanatic base frothing at the mouth and he's got his cheerleader bullhorn egging Israel on every damn step of the way.

I'm so fucking sick of these war-mongering hate-filled fanatics...on both sides. They'll take everyone with them just to make a fucking point. :puke:
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:18 PM
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22. someone needs to tell Olmert to Watch Spielburg's MUNICH
he might learn something about how violence only ever begets a chain of more violence....
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:18 PM
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23. Yes, that was a BIG missed opportunity. I share your despair.
Redstone
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:19 PM
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11. No, you have it wrong...
Lush oxycontin Limbaugh is pig-boy. Rove is a sow's ass. And Bush, well, he's just CHIMPzilla, crashing through the world as if it we're a cheap sixties Japanese movie set, never noiticing the blood and mangled flesh left on the real ground.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:21 PM
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13. His swine episode yesterday is deserving of a new Bush nick.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:25 PM
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14. Tune into Mike Malloy -- he in on a very fine rant about der idiot
in chief
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:32 PM
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16. Remember this? "The Coming Wars", by Seymour Hersh.
It's all in accordance with the Project for the New American Century.


THE COMING WARS

by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Posted 2005-01-17


George W. Bush’s reëlection was not his only victory last fall. The President and his national-security advisers have consolidated control over the military and intelligence communities’ strategic analyses and covert operations to a degree unmatched since the rise of the post-Second World War national-security state. Bush has an aggressive and ambitious agenda for using that control—against the mullahs in Iran and against targets in the ongoing war on terrorism—during his second term. The C.I.A. will continue to be downgraded, and the agency will increasingly serve, as one government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon put it, as “facilitators” of policy emanating from President Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney. This process is well under way.

Despite the deteriorating security situation in Iraq, the Bush Administration has not reconsidered its basic long-range policy goal in the Middle East: the establishment of democracy throughout the region.

snip

“This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush Administration is looking at this as a huge war zone,” the former high-level intelligence official told me. “Next, we’re going to have the Iranian campaign. We’ve declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy. This is the last hurrah—we’ve got four years, and want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism.”

snip

Rumsfeld will become even more important during the second term. In interviews with past and present intelligence and military officials, I was told that the agenda had been determined before the Presidential election, and much of it would be Rumsfeld’s responsibility. The war on terrorism would be expanded, and effectively placed under the Pentagon’s control. The President has signed a series of findings and executive orders authorizing secret commando groups and other Special Forces units to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as ten nations in the Middle East and South Asia.

The President’s decision enables Rumsfeld to run the operations off the books—free from legal restrictions imposed on the C.I.A.

snip

“The Pentagon doesn’t feel obligated to report any of this to Congress,” the former high-level intelligence official said. “They don’t even call it ‘covert ops’—it’s too close to the C.I.A. phrase. In their view, it’s ‘black reconnaissance.’ They’re not even going to tell the cincs”—the regional American military commanders-in-chief. (The Defense Department and the White House did not respond to requests for comment on this story.)

In my interviews, I was repeatedly told that the next strategic target was Iran.

snip
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:19 PM
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24. Excellent recall. Thank you for posting this.
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 10:21 PM by chill_wind
“Next, we’re going to have the Iranian campaign. We’ve declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy. This is the last hurrah—we’ve got four years, and want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism.”



Iran was on the lusty to-do list among documents on the PNAC website several years ago, when it first became so well publicized. Some months into the Iraq quagmire, it appeared to have disappeared, at least I could no longer find it, and though it showed up still in the wayback machine, the pdf file itself had become corrupted and unreadable. Nevertheless, we know the neocon rhetoric has been relentless all along in the background. As far back as a couple years ago, I remember one of their military think-tankers prognosticating on CSpan about how he thought it might go down when the time came. Airstrikes, no ground invasion, certainly, but better yet if Israel decided to do it for us.

There was a really alarming write-up late last summer in The American Conservative of all places that talks about Cheney's activity and the nuclear option



August 1, 2005 Issue
Copyright © 2005 The American Conservative

Deep Background



In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites.

Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.


* * *

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA Officer, is a partner in Cannistraro Associates.

August 1, 2005 Issue

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_08_01/article3.html




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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:15 PM
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19. a great Snowism.... Hidden meaning in last phrase
I enjoy when Snow makes such utterly ATROCIOUS mistakes.

"not only on civilians but also on human lives,"

reading it carefully he logically is saying civilians are NOT human lives because of the either / or way the phrase is constructed.

how perfect. Snow speaking in the same Bush Dyslexiconical way as Bush.

apropo on the day the US does not demand a Cease fire.

I can only imagine how Jimmy Carter must be feeling right now.. centuries of hard work in the middle east shredded by a few short years with "W" in office.

I would not be surprised if the Whitehouse is upset that Israel did this, weren't they saving Isreal to prompt Iran into war with Isreal and Iraq so the US could have an excuse to invade Iran? Watch how the US twists this as a 'regime change for Iran', I'm seeing the spin already...

try as the US is to tying Syria and Iran into this mess (and while terrorist factions in both countries may be supporting Hizbollah) the people who look the dumbest in all these hostilities is the US for not calling for peace and an end to hostilities. It would be like someone bombing DC for the actions of a few street gangs in Atlanta.... violence begets violence, hasn't Isreal figured this out in its long bloody history?

this war, mark my word, friends, will find US soldiers stranded in Iraq with no way out if we are not careful, our own soldiers are at extreme risk and the US says, 'it might be a good idea for tourists to stop going to Lebanon'. Thanks state department.. too little too late...

kahlil gibran is rolling over in his grave....

my heart is heavy that this is happening. I wish the women and children and innocent men in Israel and Lebanon peace and a cease fire very soon!!!
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nguoihue Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:16 PM
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20. bush rejects call for cease fire
I find it hard to believe that anyone is surpised at this.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:17 PM
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21. I don't get it. You would think that the gov. of Lebanon decided
to go to war. As far as I know, apart from 2 Hezbollah reps in the govt., Hezbollah is NOT the Lebanese govt.

This is utter CRAP!!
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:23 PM
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25. Just imagine this smirking killer
working for a suicide hotline in an area dominate with brown people. Now we've got a good idea at how diplomatic this
dipshit would be on the phone with the PM of Lebanon.

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:20 AM
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26. Kick n/t
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:25 AM
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27. I'm sure he couldn't be happier, now people are not paying
attention to him as much, and his want to invade Iran can be realized as he rides once again in the back door without having people being mean to him....everyone knows how bad he has wanted american soldiers to invade Iran for sometimes without having to actually once again do anything more than issue a comment here or there....
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