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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:32 AM
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WTF, CNN?
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 03:27 AM by et in Arcadia ego
Not that I'm very surprised, but I just found this to be totally surreal..

I'm looking on CNN every once in a while now keeping track on how long we have till Armageddon starts, and I notice an advertisement for CNN's online videos. In the pic I see a burning *something* and the text says 'Explosives found' with something that looks like LA as the location. I have no recolection of this, of course, so I decide to use the macromedia function of zooming in on the pic.

I was very surprised at what I found.

When you zoom into pics that are screen resolution(72 dpi), you come closer to the bare pixels with each zoom, and eventually find yourself confronted with individual pixels.

This was not the case in this image; instead, I found myself looking at a clever vector illustration that very effectively passed for flames when zoomed out to the original size.

This appears to be FAKE MEDIA..

Look for yourself:




As if things aren't bad enough already with the REAL fake news, they have to make Orwellian Mega-Fake shit to entrap viewers.

This is absolutely disgusting. I encourage people to raise hell about it.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:37 AM
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1. You need to chill out
welcome to DU
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:37 AM
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2. i don't understand
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 02:39 AM by pitohui
you think there is no fire at san berdoo? i can guarantee you right now that the 2003 fires were real, v. damn real, i was there, how could they make this up, a LOT of people live around there

i would be v. surprised if they're inventing this

p.s. i don't get the photo you show when i click on the story, i don't know if it is edited for regional bias or what (i'm in louisiana)
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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:42 AM
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4. ok, fine
Then why do they have to produce graphically edited pics instead of showing a real picture? Because that's a fake photo, and anyone that uses photoshop or any image editor can tell you that.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:44 AM
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7. i don't know, as i said, i'm not seeing the same picture
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 02:46 AM by pitohui
i know that sites can quote you different prices depending on ISP, does CNN give you different photos? it appears they must...

the photo i'm seeing shows a fireman w. a shovel
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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:51 AM
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12. Actually
The one I'm seeing is animated and I missed the initial animation as it isn't set to loop. When the main CNN page refreshed itself, the animation starts and you can REALLY see how fake it is then..I'm sorry if I came across as loud and obnoxious, but this is really exploitational to me. If you experienced the event, I would be just as angry, if not more. If I saw some hokey, fake tornado or building collapse from Hurricane Andrew footage(which I experienced) I'd throw a friggin rod...
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 03:08 AM
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19. well i'm not just getting that animation
i understand that you are and many others are but i'm getting a still photo

i can't comment on image enhancement but now i'm curious as to why different people or ISPs get different photos, there is prob. some logic behind it, but i'd just like to know what

i do have DSL, i could watch an animation perfectly well if they offered it...
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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 03:12 AM
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20. Try this
Don't click on the picture, just open a new window, and go to CNN's home page. There's gonna be a short advertisement in the same section, and then the image will come up. The animation is in the initial advertisement, not in the page that opens from clicking on it.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:41 AM
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3. I think I get what your saying
Instead of showing a real picture of the building burning, they had to "make it more appealing" and "draw" more fire on it...

:banghead:
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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:43 AM
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6. exactly
This falls under my definition of 'whoring'..
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:54 AM
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15. That is What I Got From Your PostToo
...that the picture had to be enhanced in some way ~ and I would also ask WHY? Isn't the real pictures enough???

Cat In Seattle
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:42 AM
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5. Perhaps he's challenging CNN legitimacy to cover any story correctly?
Did you see that poll?
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:49 AM
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10. Oh, the poll where 100% of the 609 people polled said that the...
...Democratic ad using the flag draped coffins was "offensive", despite probably 1000 NO votes from DU alone? CNN, that bastion of balanced media? ::sarcasm:: Yeah, what will they have us believing next... that *shrub won the election? Jerks.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:47 AM
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8. Is it a FLASH ad?
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 02:54 AM by blogslut
If the ad is made in FLASH, doesn't FLASH automatically "vectorize" images?

EDIT: It could be a static image ala jpg. However, while the fire is indeed enhanced, the photo looks authentic. I don't know. Maybe they pumped it up. Kinda crappy to do but I'm not working as a graphics monkey for CNN. Maybe the person that didwas told to do it by a superior.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:50 AM
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11. self-delete
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 02:50 AM by tiptoe
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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:52 AM
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14. the background
isn't vectorized. Yes, it's a flash image, animation, actually. You can see the three vector layers that produce the flame effect very easily while the background is heavily pixelated.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:58 AM
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16. well
once again...I dunno. Maybe the flame wasn't "dancy" enough to sell soap. It's dishonest, I agree. I can think of worse dishonesty.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 03:18 AM
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22. Probably to keep the file size small
Instead of loading in separate image frames, which would be weighty, they put in a single static image and animated the "flames" in Flash.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 03:21 AM
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23. that
sounds logical.

I do so love FLASH. To me, it's THE format.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:49 AM
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9. "CNN: The Most Busted Name in News" n/t
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:51 AM
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13. btw...K & R ! for CNN-awareness
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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:59 AM
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17. And to clarify
I'm not accusing CNN of posting fake news, I'm calling them out for posting fake/enhanced MEDIA..
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 03:05 AM
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18. Welcome to DU!
Kick back a while. Enjoy the nice scenery. Avoid the flamefests (or not, your choice).

:-)

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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 03:13 AM
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21. cheers!
I've been here every day all day for at least the last year and a half.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 03:22 AM
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24. I have the solution... blow up the TV
I find lots less stress in my life without fake news alltogether.
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LiberalPartisan Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 05:23 AM
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25. FOX showed money can be made
if news is marketed as entertainmnet. The leap to manufacturing the news (the content) wasn't that great. And of course the content has to be titillating - Nancy Grace's program is the perfect example of that - no real news or information but lots of hand wringing. I really appreciate Bowling for Columbine so much mmore a few years after first seeing it - Moore recognized early that all cable news programs continuously stoke the anxiety/fear factor to keep the viewers coming back for more. And it has been very effective as you can see at the office water cooler - lots of folks talking about the latest sensational sound-bite but not the issue.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:33 AM
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26. Time-Warner. If you have a choice, don't choose TW. America
deserves straight arrow news. This is not the USSR.

Time-Warner, Murdoch, General Electric.

Pimp-Pimpess Land.

From Cheney to your home, including your kids room.

Spun and propagandized.

Where smirks, snears, ridicule and lies rule.

Real americana, corporate style.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:39 AM
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27. CNN is trying to outdo Fox in the "be scared" department
Evidently they think they can sell Pipeline to the security moms.
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