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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:27 AM
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so, is this how it's gonna be?
went to another temp agency to look for work and part of the process is filling out an I-9.

now, i've filled many of these forms and two pieces of i.d. (namely a valid state d.l. and social security card) were always sufficient to get a job.

well, this one lady decided that she needed a birth certificate.

i told her (actually read her the form) that this was not true.

oh, btw, i have a spanish surname, was born in chicago, and speak like a midwesterner.

i guess she wanted to be sure i wasn't illegal.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:14 AM
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1. Yes, pinheads exist
and eventually we'll all run into them.

Demanding a birth certificate is WAY over the top. It's not the kind of thing we carry around with us.

If you don't get the job, complain about it.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:27 AM
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2. Two pieces of ID are required
One most be a photo ID like a driver's license.

No new legislation has been passed yet that changes these rules.

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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:47 AM
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3. It's so clear what you need to provide---she was just stupid
The first ten are sufficient on their own:

1. U.S. Passport (unexpired or expired)

2. Certificate of U.S. Citizenship (INS Form N-560 or N-561)

3. Certificate of Naturalization (INS Form N-550 or N-570)

4. Unexpired foreign passport, with I-551 stamp or attached INS Form I-94 indicating unexpired employment authorization

5. Alien Registration Receipt Card with photograph (INS Form I-151 or I-551)

6. Unexpired Temporary Resident Card (INS Form I-688)

7. Unexpired Employment Authorization Card (INS Form I-688A)

8. Unexpired Reentry Permit (INS Form I-327)

9. Unexpired Refugee Travel Document (INS Form I-571)

10. Unexpired Employment Authorization Document issued by the INS which contains a photograph (INS Form I-688B)

OR one from each of the following lists:

# Driver's license or ID card issued by a state or outlying possession of the United States provided it contains a photograph or information such as name, date of birth, sex, height, eye color, and address

# ID card issued by federal, state, or local government agencies or entities provided it contains a photograph or information such as name, date of birth, sex, height, eye color, and address

# School ID card with a photograph

# Voter's registration card

# U.S. Military card or draft record

# Military dependent's ID card

# U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner Card

# Native American tribal document

# Driver's license issued by a Canadian government authority

AND one of these
1. U.S. social security card issued by the Social Security Administration (other than a card stating it is not valid for employment)

2. Certification of Birth Abroad issued by the Department of State (Form FS-545 or Form DS-1350)

3. Original or certified copy of a birth certificate issued by a state, county, municipal authority or outlying possession of the United States bearing an official seal

4. Native American tribal document

5. U.S. Citizen ID Card (INS Form I-197)

6. ID Card for use of Resident Citizen in the United States (INS Form I-179)

7. Unexpired employment authorization document issued by the INS (other than those listed under List A)

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:50 AM
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4. School ID card with a photograph is not acceptable here.
Because it is issued by the school, not by the state.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 09:29 AM
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8. School ID with photo is acceptable as stated above.
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 09:32 AM by Gormy Cuss
That list appears to be straight off the I-9 form. It must be combined with something from the second list(SSN card, birth certificate, etc.)

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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:52 AM
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5. Well there is a call for employers to be responsible for who they
are going hiring and that it is not an illegal. Without the proper tools to run ss numbers and I.D.'s through a national data bank, there is no way for an employer to determine whether or not someone is illegal of legal. So now we are just going to idiotically discriminate based on a profile.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:59 AM
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6.  guess its your turn now, look back through our historic country's
ability to find people to fear, hey stuff like this garners votes for white bread America, don't take it personal, your not the first to have to deal with such outrageous actions in the very country you call home based on your supposed heritage...

You have to wonder about some in this country sometimes, we should be proud of our diversity and yet far too many still wish such didn't exist, wish those few would find their own country to play their racist games.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:03 AM
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7. Your DL and SSN card are perfectly fine
If they ask you for a BC again, call your Congresscritter's office and howl.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 09:39 AM
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9. Ever read what it says on your Social Security Card?
This card is not to be used for identification purposes..:shrug:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 09:42 AM
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10. People are so officious now
The bureaucrats always think of something new to "require." They think they are a law unto themselves. People who work for big companies think they work for the government and have to enforce the law and some people just like having power over others, no matter how petty. See if you tell her she doesn't need it, she'll just get pissy over the fact she can't require it.

Even judges are like this nowadays. Nobody thinks the rule of law is worth following, they just try to gain as much power over others as they think they can get, personally.







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