Bush blames Hezbollah for Mideast violence (Careful. His lips are moving)

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-meast15.html

President Bush on Saturday blamed the Islamic militant group Hezbollah and Syria for the escalating violence in the Middle East, taking a sharper stance than Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was also critical of Israel.

At a joint news conference, Bush and Putin showed the divide that could dominate this weekend's meeting of world industrial leaders.

"In my judgment, the best way to stop the violence is to understand why the violence occurred in the first place," Bush said. "And that's because Hezbollah has been launching rocket attacks out of Lebanon into Israel and because Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers."

[Junkdrawer]

1. Pour some more gasoline on, George. The fire's not big enough...

to support an attack on Iran, yet. Maybe after the "Hezbollah" US terror attack....

[peekaloo]

2. What a grasp of history he possesses.

:sarcasm:

[papau]

3. Even when he has the facts on his side, he is inarticulate selling his

view.

I am surprised he not mention that the new missiles and the drone that hit the ship were made in Iran The missile was a C802) and are part of Iran's known armament, or that Hez and Hamas crossed agreed borders in order to kidnap the Israeli's now being held.

But I'm not a Rove - so maybe keeping it simple is a better approach.

I did not/do not expect Bush to suggest that perhaps not all the PA being held in Israel are helpers of suicide bombers and perhaps some of them can be released in a prisoner exchange.

[TheFarseer]

4. I haven't said this in a good 5 years, but

the President is right. Israel and surrounding territories were relatively quiet and Israel was gradually giving the land back until now. Face it, Israel wants peace. Some elements of the Palestinians and Arabs don't want peace. Israel attacks when attacked. I don't care what happened in 1948 or 1923 or 19-whatever. All the Palestinians can do is make the best of it now. Why don't they try to do something positive with the Gaza Strip so Israel will feel comfortable giving back the West Bank. The Palestinian majority, that is getting nothing but misery from the fighting should make a phone call to the Israelis telling them where the soldiers are and where the radical elements are so they can be destroyed and these poor people can finally know peace. Their cause has been set back immeasurably, and they only have their own people to blame. If radical elements in Mexico were shelling San Diego and taking our National Guardsmen hostage, our president damn well better hit them back.

To me, Israel has tried peace, but when the other side doesn't want peace, it simply won't work. They've got no choice but to kill off the radical element. The only thing that gives me hope is the tepid response of more and more Arabs. Many of them are getting sick of this and some of the rest are just trying to piss us off. I wonder if Iran would be inflaming this if we were were not chomping at the bit to invade them.

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[NNN0LHI]

6. Did you believe Iraq had Winnebagos Of Death?

Bush did.

Don

[TheFarseer]

8. No

I completely oppose attacking someone that didn't attack you. I support fighting back against someone who clearly is attacking you, like the people firing rockets at Israel's cities.

[liberaliraqvet26]

7. peace my ass...

israel doesnt even know what peace means

[TheFarseer]

10. what in the world are they gaining from a war?

Land? They were giving the land back. PR? Everyone is condemning them.

[NNN0LHI]

11. Israel has been performing a Kabuki dance with land and illegal outposts

Anyone who can read knows that.

Don


http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0709/p07s01-wome.html

Israeli outposts still growing


GIVAT HATAMAR, WEST BANK – It has receded from memory amid mutual bloodletting and plans for a unilateral Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, but about a year ago there was a Middle East peace process named the road map.

As steps towards peace, the Israeli outpost of Givat HaTamar and dozens of other outposts established during Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's tenure without formal government authorization were to be removed from West Bank hilltops.

But with the road map moribund and international attention focusing on a possible Gaza pullout, Givat HaTamar and other West Bank outposts are steadily becoming permanent communities, fixtures on a future map of Israel that is to include wide swaths of occupied territory that Palestinians envision as the heartland of their future state.

That, along with Israel's construction of a West Bank security barrier whose legality is to be decided Friday by the International Court of Justice, is something settlement critics say will complicate peacemaking.

"The real picture is that everything that is not evacuated is growing," says Dror Etkes, who monitors settlements for the Peace Now movement. He says that 48 outposts established after March 2001 are still in place, almost all of them inhabited. He adds that out of 26 outposts that were removed since the road map was announced, just five were inhabited. But a senior government official says that 80 outposts have been removed, more than the total that ever existed according to Peace Now.


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[TheFarseer]

12. on the bright side

in 20-30 years when Antarctica and Greenland melts the whole place will be underwater and no one will be fighting over it.

[ginnyinWI]

5. It's his own damned fault!

It was * and the neo-cons with their big ideas of reforming the Middle East. Topple Saddam and everything will come up roses--everyone in the Middle East was only waiting for a chance to establish Jeffersonian democracies! :sarcasm:

Now just look what's happened: Islamic extremist parties are getting elected to office and establishing dominance in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq.

Read Thomas Friedman's and E.J. Dione's recent editorials. It's *'s fault. It's Cheney's fault. And every last one of them's, who signed on to this very bad idea. This latest military action is definitive proof, if we even needed it.

[liberal N proud]

9. Lips moving = lies and bull shit flowing