So...if the repukes don't like an ad by the Dems, we have to pull it?

[Webster Green]

The chickenshit dems pulled the ad with the flag draped coffins because it upset the criminals?

Rove must be happy about that.

Should be a real boring campaign season if the pukes get to decide what the dems are allowed to say, and then......we will "lose" the fucking elections again.

Unbelievable!

[JHH]

1. No wounder most of America thinks Dem's are soft and weak

[cornermouse]

2. This is their way of letting the world see that we DO have a spine

and DO stand up for our beliefs. ...That is, some other time over something that is more likely to win us votes in November. ...You do see how it is, don't you?...
:sarcasm:

Sometimes it just feels so hopeless. :banghead:

[Mz Pip]

3. That's my take on it.

Once again the Dems have caved. They let the GOP frame the debate. If that's how they plan to run in this election cycle they will once again lose. THe subtext is if they can't stand up to the GOP spin machine, how can they stand up to terrorism. That is how this will be viewed.

Candy ass wimps.

Not all of them, but the ones who made this decision certainly have some explaining to do.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Harper_is_Bush]

4. Is that why it was pulled? Or are you just assuming?

I don't agree with using images of dead soldiers myself, so good riddance.

[Webster Green]

9. So you agree with the "president"?

That the pictures of flag draped cofffins are unsuitable to be viewed by the public?

Why?

[Harper_is_Bush]

28. I just think using dead soldiers in political ads is stupid

Do you want dems to look stupid? Why?

[Webster Green]

34. What the hell is stupid about showing those images?

Those flag draped coffins are the reality of what the pukes have gotten us into.

They died for a lie and a hoax, but there is nothing "stupid" about showing the images.

Do you mean that it makes the dems look like they are exploiting the fallen soldiers? You haven't really explained your position at all, but merely proclaimed that it is so.

Everything the dems say is vilified as partisan politics by the pukes, but so what? Thats just the way they operate.

[Harper_is_Bush]

37. I never imagined I had to explain something so obvious. n/t

[Harper_is_Bush]

38. "Those flag draped coffins are the reality of what the pukes have gotten..

Hey, I got a GREAT idea!

Make some campaign ads with dead Iraqi children in them! Maybe a re-enactment of soldiers raping?
Didn't a video just come out with a beheaded US soldier in it? Get that in an ad, stat!

I bet the American voter will just hold the makers of ads like that in the highest regard possible!

Like I said, stupid.

Just PM me if you need any more obvious shit pointed out to you.

[Webster Green]

43. Whatever !........It didn't seem obviously stupid to me...

Thanks a lot for straightening me out, your highness!

[Crunchy Frog]

46. Can't you understand that a picture of a box covered with a flag

is exactly the same sort of thing as a picture of a bloody, mangled, dismembered body? :sarcasm:

[Webster Green]

50. Yeah, right!

Its sickening watching repukes whining about "playing politics", when they never stop doing exactly that.

Projection at its finest!

[robinlynne]

5. so it appears. we need to look nicey nicey for the republicans.....

[Totally Committed]

6. Please...... I'm so upset by this.

I cannot understand where the Democrats' minds, hearts, and guts have gone!

You don't hear Republicans complaining about Ann Coulter going after the 9/11 wives. You don't hear them being upset the President Bush, the Commander-in-Chief doesn't visit one in-coming coffin. You don't hear them upset by the disrespect shown to veterans when the Bush Administration cuts benefits. You don't hear them upset at the percentage of returning soldiers that are homeless and jobless after their exptended tours of duty. Nooooooooo............ but, a Democratic ad that shows flag-draped coffins is disrespectful?

Karl Rove is Playing this Party like a violin. And our "leadership" is allowing it.

TC

[Ravy]

7. I am glad it was "pulled"....

It is all over the place, and people still search it out to see what the commotion was.

Since it has been "pulled" republicans lose their talking point, and everyone still gets to see it.

[Eric J in MN]

31. Republicans still have their talking point, and

...they also have that Democrats supposedly agree since they took it down.

Sean Hannity of Fox News has been talking for years about the two ads submitted to MoveOn in a contest which compared Bush to Hitler, even though MoveOn took the ads down as soon as the Republicans criticized them.

[Fridays Child]

8. Breaking: DCCC takes marching orders from GOP...

Oh, wait. That's old news. x(

[EST]

10. So who made that decision, why, and what's behind it?

Seems like a well connected reporter's chance to make a scoop and get the real story for us!

HEY JASON! Are you and Truthout paying attention?

[acmejack]

11. A lot like they respected us say since the Willie Horton ad.

Or more recently mocking us with Swift Liars, oh wait, those were totally "independent" of the RNC. The routinely call us traitors and worse, but god forbid we should show a flag covered coffin.

The DCCC will never receive another nickle from me, ever. In fact I had a deal with another DUer involving contributions we were both prepared to make if they showed some fortitude and kept the ad up. I really thought Emmanuel would stand his ground, I guess he reserves all his displays of courage and outrage for attempted bullying of Howard Dean, Christine Cegelis, and the rest of the the radical leftists who endorse the heretical fifty state plan that lets us all participate.

[givemebackmycountry]

12. Who ever made that descision...

We need to make that persons life miserable.
E-mails, phone calls, whatever it takes.
That ad should be on TV hourly.
Instead we cave in and run and hide... yet again.

"Oh, we're sorry, we'll take it down, don't be mean to us"

Something is very wrong with our leadership, and if they don't have the backbone that we do then GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY.

Ava Lowery, who is a 15 year old girl, who I wrote about earlier today has more balls in her toy box than our whole party has combined.

Democrats = Scared Little Sissies.

GROW SOME WILL YOU PLEASE!!!!!!!!



:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Vidar]

13. Maybe we can capture the invertebrate vote.

[guinivere]

14. LOL! Sad, but funny all the same. nt

[acmejack]

15. I saw that there was a jellyfish population explosion

Perhaps that is their stategy!

[Vidar]

16. Ah yes the "sting like a bee" double secret strategy.

[El Fuego]

17. Exactly. We're letting them set the agenda!!!!!

[City Lights]

18. Maybe this was part of the plan from the beginning.

They knew the pukes would have a tantrum, but it would still get free play and publicity even after they pulled it. :shrug: Anyway, I'd like to think they planned it this way rather than just caving.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

20. No, it looks worse IMHO to make these ads that you then pull.

When was the last time a Repub pulled an ad or apologized for ANYTHING?

[City Lights]

27. They pulled one in October, 2004.

Bush TV ad pulled over doctored crowd scene

Stephen Brook, advertising correspondent
Friday October 29, 2004

George Bush's campaign team has been forced to pull a television advert after admitting a picture of the president addressing the troops in Iraq had been digitally enhanced.
The election ad showed President Bush addressing the Republican National Convention before cutting to a photograph of a group of soldiers at a rally in New York.

But the liberal weblog, DailyKos, showed that the same faces appeared several times in several different places within the same crowd shot.

more... http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,,1338946,00.html

[Jamastiene]

19. The Dems should NOT have done that.

That sets a dangerous precedent for future truth telling attempts. Apparently, they have quit listening to us, which is a mistake. I can be swayed to go green very easily if the dems keep this spineless shit up. I'm fed up with that wishy washy shit.

[davidwparker]

21. I'm giving it to 2008, then the only way to dump this leadership is to

go to the Green party. 2008, then that's it for me.

[Webster Green]

24. I have voted Green Party, but they aren't going to dump anything

I think the next step is revolution. Fuck these criminals. Its almost time.

[KittyWampus]

22. It was on the site for TWO WEEKS. Why the fuck are you so sure they

pulled it?

Do any of the DU'ers slamming them, visit the DCCC website on a regular basis?

I doubt it.

It's just more fun to get your rocks off trashing Democrats.

[Webster Green]

25. get rocks off?

Where the hell is that coming from?

If they planned to pull it that soon, then they should have extended it after the pukes started whining.

No chance (in your mind) that the dems really are a bunch of fucking wimps?

Heh!

[KittyWampus]

32. Why the fuck should they 'extend' it? It got noticed and took a life of

its own.

Now that their website got more traffic they're doing more stuff.

It's called life... it moves forward.

[Webster Green]

36. Its rolling over for the master one more time...

And its sickening.

[lastknowngood]

23. Let's face it. They are wimps and we will lose big time in Nov and beyond

because of these cowards and the pimping of perpetual war by the rethugs and their corp owned media.

[Ringo84]

26. Fuckin' Hell

They pulled that ad? Way to grow a spine, Democratic party!

That really pisses me off. We're the Republican party's bitch; they give orders, we take them.

Hannity and his ilk won, because our party let them. An outrage.
Ringo

[Harper_is_Bush]

29. With friends like you....

[Webster Green]

35. Are you writing in some sort of code?

WTF are you talking about?

[Eric J in MN]

30. No powerful images are allowed in Democratic ads.

Nothing showing the cost of the war.

Because the Republicans don't like it.

[Harper_is_Bush]

39. How about a picture of that beheaded US soldier?

Should that go in an ad? Or is that too "powerful"?

There's such a thing as being smart in politics, and it's not smart to exploit the dead.

[Eric J in MN]

41. Deaths are a legitimate part of the public debate. NT

Not exploitation.

[Harper_is_Bush]

42. Well no doubt. So let's put a picture of that beheaded soldier

in a dem campaign ad.

Smart, huh?

[Crunchy Frog]

45. You really don't see any kind of difference

between a picture of a dismembered corpse, and a picture of a box with a flag on it?

I don't expect an answer and I don't intend to debate this with you. I just wanted to point out what seems obvious to me, but evidently isn't obvious to you.

[Harper_is_Bush]

47. You don't see the similarities? n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

48. No, quite frankly, I don't. n/t

[treestar]

33. The dems have been doing this for the past 30 years and it's not

working, yet they still keep doing it.

Quit letting them set the terms of debate, I say.

The ad was fine and it should be kept and should be continued with an "in your face" attitude. That's the only way they respect.

[baldguy]

40. I'm wondering

If this is offensive to the necrocons:




Are they offended by this too?

[RagAss]

44. Let's face it...Dem leadership doesn't have 1 Ball between them !!!!

[The Straight Story]

49. Maybe they pulled it because dems enabled the war, and are running

for re-election...