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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:49 PM
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I thought Dubya and Vlad were supposed to be pals.
That smackdown today about Russia's not wanting the kind of democracy Iraq has sounds to me like it was directed right between Dubya's eyes.

Kapow.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:52 PM
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They broke up.. it was in the papers :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:05 PM
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9. Junior needs to learn how to make friends better.
And then keep the ones he makes.

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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:52 PM
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1. Well, Bush
looked into his soul, what else does he need to know?
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:53 PM
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2. Putin thinks Shrub is an idiot
just like the rest of us do. I laughed my ass off when I heard Putin make that comment.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:16 PM
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18. And Putin's slam today seemed completely effortless. It was just
child's play to him. Bush smirked his way through the event as usual, but Putin bulldozed him with one or two sentences.

Kapow.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:53 PM
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3. W is too stupid to know when he is being bitch slapped around
by Putin.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:14 PM
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17. Can't you just see Putin, returning to his hotel room, saying to his
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 07:45 PM by Old Crusoe
aides, "Christ, that guy's the biggest jackass in the history of the world."
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:34 PM
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26. Yep, I have no problem seeing that at all. n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:53 PM
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4. It was humiliating for jr. His only response was "Just wait"
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 07:13 PM by The_Casual_Observer
The kind of childish passive/aggressive nonresponse you would expect from a liar shit for brains.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:07 PM
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11. Exactly. It's that very attitude that gets him the reputation he's earned
and here he is again, digging the hole even deeper.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:34 PM
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27. Same thing he has been giving us. "Stay the course." n/t
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 06:58 PM
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5. Volodya, not Vlad.
Vova, even.

Although the idea of calling Putin either is amusing.

Perhaps Voloden'ka :-)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:08 PM
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12. igil, help me out here... did I get the name wrong?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:37 PM
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28. Nope.
Vladimir just has the familiar form Volodya or Vova. From those you get Voloden'ka and some others. (Vlad almost needs to be followed by "... the Impaler".)

Sort of like Jonathan, Jon, Jonny, Jonnikins, etc.

But Russians don't use them like we do: you'd call a stranger "Jon" in short order, but the idea of calling Putin 'Volodya' is humorous.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:46 PM
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30. Well, I had no idea. I get your reference and lay-out a little.
You must be well-versed in Russian.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:01 PM
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6. Baby Bush was also friends with Vicente Fox
That ended too.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:10 PM
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13. That's right. our president is going to have to get some lessons in
playing well with others.

On Vicente Fox -- a lost opportunity for the United States owing to a personal failure of George W. Bush.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:02 PM
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7. He smacked down Darth Cheney days before that with his comment
about a misdirected hunting shot.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:05 PM
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8. Lover's quarrel. Nothing more, nothing to see here, move
along, nothing to see, everything is as it should be.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:11 PM
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14. It could be. Do you think it was staged, or that Putin just got
weary of the bullshit?

It was an awfully public put-down.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:17 PM
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19. He's just callin shrub for the bullshitter he is... everyone, most
foreign leaders think it, Putin just put it in words.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:29 PM
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23. He did. He surely did. I'm stealing the term "smack-down" from
other DUers on this story, but it just fits perfectly.

I expect Jon Stewart is going to have a good time with this next week.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:07 PM
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10. There's a gaping difference between the two: intelligence, experience...
...actual hard work in building a career -- as opposed to being the lazy, spoiled son of excessive privilege who never was held accountable for a single personal failure in his life.

I don't think Putin is a nice man, far from it, but niceness has nothing to do with it. He's an old KGB hand, and Bush Senior used to run the CIA -- those two actually have more in common than Junior does with Putin.

Hekate

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:13 PM
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16. I'm buying every syllable of your post, Hekate. You're right -- charm
is not Putin's long suit, unless lamprey eels have charm.

And Dubya is in over his head on just about any foreign stage. Or any domestic stage, too, as long as we're on the subject.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:12 PM
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15. Bush made a dumb remark.
It's not much more than that.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:31 PM
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24. One of many dumb remarks Dubya has made over the last 6 years.
Isolated, it wouldn't strike me so much, but the world-stage aspect draws a lot of attention to it.

Dubya claims to have brought democracy to Iraq.

"We aren't interested in THAT kind of democracy," Putin says, microphones plugged in going out to every news outlet in the world.

Bush's Iraq War laid to waste in one sentence.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:18 PM
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20. Dubya swooned like a schoolgirl
but Pootie never said he loved him.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:27 PM
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21. Putin = former KGB. Bush = drunken frat boy. No respect.
Considering that George H.W. Bush was Director of the CIA during the Cold War, maybe he should have told Dubya a bit about trusting/liking KGB personnel.

I remember an idiotic ruse from the Russians that Putin somehow didn't speak any English - despite having graduated KGB school and having been posted in East Germany. Riiiight.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:48 PM
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31. Yep. I imagine Poppy could have given Junior a pointer or two.
Putin is not loveable but he's likely extremely smart.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:28 PM
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22. Putin lays down the law, makes him take a time out

And it looks like Shrub, raided Putin's fridge, what is that in front of him?
St Pauli Girl?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:33 PM
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25. Looks like a beer bottle to me, yes. Whoa. Good catch, MikeNearMcChord.
I thought Dubya was supposed to lay off the sauce...?
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:38 PM
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29. Putin pointing to the floor, "No George, your doggy bowl is over here."
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 07:39 PM by gbrooks
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