Joe Biden just dismantled Newt Gingrich on MTP

[TheFarseer]

Newtie looked like a war-monger trying to promote WWIII. His main point was that N Korea would take out Seattle or San Fran. His other main point was that we have to take out Iran and Syria for their to be peace in Israel. He promoted arming Iranian non-Persian factions for a civil war. He advocated taking out N Korean missiles on the launching pad. You know, crazy stuff like that. Joe Biden laid out a diplomatic plan to end the Iraq war. He laid out sensible plans to deal with N Korea. "John F Kennedy said we should never negotiate out of fear, but he also said we should never fear to negotiate." They agreed that Israel should defend itself. Biden said N Korea and Iran are not real dangers to the US and also put it in perspective that N Korea cannot realistically do anything to us but we can annihilate them and that we should sit down with them one-on-one and remind them of that. He also said the main danger with N Korea is that it will escalate into a second Korean War. It was really a very good performance.

on a side note, I can't figure out why so many people look to embrace WWIII. I would want to try and prevent that if I were in power. I was glad that Joe rejected that notion.

[acmavm]

1. I have this crazy feeling that as our 'leadership' factor in the world

sinks, the crazies in this country (those that want war and support it) get crazier. They think the death and destruction factor somehow makes up for our lost credibility/leadership/importance.

It's the old 'might makes right' ideal on steroids.

[Toots]

3. Remember their chants "USA, USA" and "We Don't Care, We Don't Care"

They really don't care...

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. That still gives me chills

Remember when a whole busload of freepers came down to Crawford last August and pulled up at Camp Casey while there was a prayer vigil going on? They immediately started chanting "We Don't Care, We Don't Care". I wondered at the time whose prayers would Jesus interrupt?

[checkmate1947]

2. Some of these Idiots

think that by bringing about worldwar3 that they can speed up the "Rapture", makes you wonder why there are not more drugs avaliable for these nut cases.

[Justice Is Comin]

4. Biden is just like Matthews.

One day he has reasoned intelligence, next day he's carrying Bush's water.

[Armstead]

5. Here he ws both on the same day

Biden made sense on North Korea -- but on the Middle East he sounded like NeoCon Lite.

[TheFarseer]

13. I don't agree with that

neo-can lite would be piggybacking on Newt's ideas that we need to take out Iran and Syria to effectively deal with the problem and that the real problem isn't Hezbollah, the real problem is the Iranians. You know, spoiling for a war with Iran. To me, Biden was just saying that Hezbollah should be disarmed.

[sam sarrha]

6. that is spelled DubyaDubya3

[bananas]

7. Some people get excited about war

They really think war is fun, they watch war movies and read war novels and it's all so exciting.
Also, it makes life easier to understand, the goal is to win, there are two sides, you are on one side or the other.

[mtnsnake]

8. I thought Biden was excellent today with most of his comments

Not perfect, but then who is.

[Justice Is Comin]

9. Give me Katrina Vandenheuval any day of the week.

She would kick Russert's ass all around the room.

[Iniquitous Bunny]

10. There are those actually excited about it.

They want it to be WW3, then that means the end of the world and Jesus will come back and take them (and them alone) to Heaven and everything will just be super-duper then. :eyes:

I don't think the current administration believes this stuff, but they use the support of these illogical people who do to perpetuate their twisted foreign policies.

[RagAss]

11. they need the Retard vote to stay in office....they don't believe

in the Rapture any more than we do, as you point out. As a matter of fact, if it's possible, they believe in it less than most of us. They believe in money and blood....farther away from the concepts of any religion and humanistic approach to life than any American administration has been since the Revolution....

[Iniquitous Bunny]

12. That's the biggest snow job...

Bush convincing these people that he's "one of them"- a right wing Christian. Please! He's an overgrown fratboy who's agenda is being the puppetboy for the military industrial powers that be. Jesus would be ashamed of the whole lot of them.

[blm]

15. That's exactly what I believe of them - they are USING prophecy to cover

for their actual goals of global fascism, and it's pretty damn convenient for the Nazi policy to get Israel's Arab neighbors to target them for destruction, so this time the fascist leaders won't get blamed for another holocaust.

They used the hardline Jews like Netanyahu to set up an impasse that would lead to this time, and spent over 30 years fostering fundamentalism in THIS country to get many Americans to accept and even WELCOME a nuclear event or massive bombing as a signal to the end times.

[Me.]

14. I Liked When He As Good As Called The Pewt A

Neocon to his face.

*shadow government*

[jean]

16. Good for Biden. The former govt shut-down manager who is now frothing at

the mouth for a world war should be exposed for what he is. Thank you, MTP for pairing Biden with Gingrich.

[NNN0LHI]

18. It reminded me of a good cop, bad cop scam

At least Biden has stopped saying the "window is closing" in Iraq lately. Thats an improvement.

Don

[blogslut]

19. I don't understand Joe Biden

He pontificates like an attack dog but he votes like a scared little kitty.

[saltpoint]

20. Joe Biden may get further in the primaries than I think, but right now

my vote will more enthusiastically go to a group of other first-choice options.

But that isn't to say I don't appreciate him ripping Newt a new one.

I don't like Newt Gingrich in the first place, so my bias is more than just casually partisan. I think he's insane, monstrous, and Napoleonic. My guess it's a case of a teensy wiener compensated for by a massive ego.

Biden? I wouldn't want to mess with him in a debate on foreign policy. He knows his stuff.