White supremacists enlisting in military to prep for race war

[NNN0LHI]

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060715/EDIT02/607150327/1021/EDIT

That's just great. As if American soldiers don't have enough to worry about, they now must fear whether a presumed comrade has actually pledged allegiance to some white supremacist group back home.

That's the alarm being sounded by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which has tracked domestic hate groups since 1981, and whose investigations and lawsuits have led to legal action against more than 40 individuals and nine major white supremacist organizations. snip

Americans may be divided over the war, but all of them should be troubled that, when researching their book "Cobra II," Michael R. Gordon and Gen. Bernard E. Trainor found racist stereotyping even in the highest levels of the U.S. command in Iraq. They cited a senior officer who said of Iraqis, "The only thing these sand {N-words} understand is force, and I'm about to introduce them to it""

Some will argue, of course, that the battlefield is no place for "political correctness" or claim that pelting enemies with ugly names is hardly new. In Korea and Vietnam, Americans commonly referred to their enemies with derogatory names.

But maybe that senior officer was a neo-Nazi or skinhead who managed to move up the ranks. And even if he wouldn't think of being part of such a group, his language screams out an attitude that would comfort them, and that's dangerous in an integrated military.

[mzteris]

1. **Americans commonly referred

to their enemies with derogatory names.***

They have to dehumanize the "enemy" so they can try and feel less guilt about killing them.

[onehandle]

2. The country will be full of Timothy McVeigh Freepers after Bush is gone.

When a Democrat comes back into office in 2009, right-wing domestic terrorism will be back and loaded for bear.

And daycare centers in federal buildings, like McVeigh (Registered Republican, NRA Member), targeted.

[nosillies]

3. please don't scare me like that

[Cleita]

4. Having had personal face to face interactions with white

supremists when I lived in Idaho, the fact is that they believe that our government is our enemy and they are arming themselves and training themselves to take over when the time is right. Unfortunately, right now I think they are right about this present government.

If this is allowed to go on, then you will see civil war in America if they can get enough disgruntled, shell shocked veterans and other disgusted white Americans to join them.

You will see racial bloodshed in our streets and considering what I have been reading in the immigrant posts even here at DU, most Americans not affected will turn their backs to this until it's their turn.

I just hope saner minds will prevail before these nutjobs get too big and powerful to contain easily.

[dweller]

5. New York Times link

"The report said that neo-Nazi groups like the National Alliance, whose founder, William Pierce, wrote "The Turner Diaries," the novel that was the inspiration and blueprint for Timothy J. McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, sought to enroll followers in the Army to get training for a race war."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html?ex=1309924800&en=18e0e7dce2b8c8d3&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss



from the Veteran's forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=259x1518
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[undergroundpanther]

11. I read the Turner Diaries

It was one of the most boring badly written books.EVER.It was a struggle to read it to the end.
And this book demonstrated clearly all this is just a game to these people. A big deadly game of "king of the hill".White skin team VS black/brown skinned team.It's really juvenile.Narcissistic little boys who NEVER wanna grow up killing each other for the prize. Control over the the state is thier war booty. That's all it is.

[jwirr]

6. *ss is creating terrorists both in the ME and the US. We are

definitely safer today. :sarcasm:

[misternormal]

7. A tale of two friends...

... The year was 1979, the place was Yongsan Army Post, Seoul, Korea...

Two friends, one black and one white. They grew up in the same neighborhood, went to the same school, and even enlisted together. They were shipped to BCT and AIT together, and assigned to the 142nd MP Company, Yongsan, Seoul Korea.

Within 6 months of assignment, they no longer spoke to one another. The division of the races was not encouraged by the Army, but it was never discouraged either. White soldiers went to certain clubs and congregated in certain places, and black solders went to different clubs and congregated in different places.

The army had mandatory "RR/EO" classes, and we all attended. The classes never seemed to actually do any good. Most came into the class with a certain train of thought, and most left as they arrived.

I left Korea before they did, and do not know if their paths ever crossed again.

I do not doubt that the OP is correct, and it will in my opinion just make things worse for those that are already in tense situations around the world.

[A wise Man]

9. The year was 1966, the place was Nurenberg Germany

I'm black. Believe it or not one of my best friends was a white guy.We talked about our girls back home and the life we lead. He never let on that he was a member of the KKK.I didn't know until he told me just before he was shipped out.
But he did proclaim that he was wrong about many things that were taught to him at an early age. His mission was to learn how to fight us as the enemy.

There were never anytimes that I thought any differently about him, but I did believe that he had changed. There were other white guys also confided in me about there racism, not so much from them but their parents and grandparents. I hope I was right about an old friend.

[misternormal]

10. Thank you for that... n/t

[davsand]

8. Extreme attitudes are attracted to extreme situations.

I think that the folks with a few lug nuts missing have always been attracted to extreme situations--including war zones or law enforcement.

I am NOT saying everyone in those areas is a wingnut, in fact, far from that. I know a lot of normal SANE folks in law enforcement and in the military. The sane ones, if they are being candid, will probably tell you that they know a couple of folks at work that are just a beat off normal.

I am saying that I think that situations with a high amount of danger or where emotions run high are probably attractive to people with specific attitudes and personality quirks. I think that military or law enforcement training can magnify those quirks even more, so that you end up with the Timothy McVeighs and that guy who was sniping out there on the East Coast (can't remember his name, sorry.)

If they are racist going into it, I think that will magnify. If they are stone crazy when they start out, they are gonna get even worse.

Just my two cents.


Laura

[mmonk]

12. Unfortunately,

racists having been entering at growing numbers for awhile. Since racists are primarily rednecks and war is basically redneck sex, why be surprised? Real true patriotic American soldiers enter the service to protect and defend.