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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:29 PM
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The U.S. vs John Lennon
http://www.theusversusjohnlennon.com/site/trailer.html

"Musician. Humanitarian. National Threat."


"Exploring Vietnam-era struggles that remain relevant today, THE U.S. VS. JOHN LENNON tells the true story of the U.S. Government attempts to silence John Lennon, the beloved musician and iconic advocate for peace. Featuring extensive interviews with those who knew him best, this powerful new look at the life and times of John Lennon captures the mystique of the man, the ideals he fought for, and the price he paid for simply trying to make the world a better place."

In theaters September 2006.

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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:31 PM
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1. saw this the other day in GDP
looks pretty darn interesting...

as I sit here an listen to a little JL today, I think, man, I would love to hear his take on shit in the world today....
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:33 PM
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3. I keep waiting for
Roger Waters to release a new biting political cd. But then, he probably feels, as I do, that Amused to Death is still pertinent after all these years.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:33 PM
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2. I had no idea there was enough controversy for a film...n/t
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:58 PM
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6. I don't think it's controversy,
it's the similarity of that time to today. I'm sure Smirk's people aren't doing ANYTHING like this behind the scenes regarding, say, Neil Young. :sarcasm:
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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:35 PM
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4. I plan on checking this out.
I'm not old enough to remember much of this. I want to know more.
I love documentaries. I'm in film school right now to fallow this passion of mine.

I just say Inconvenient Truth. Talk about a wonderful piece of work.
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:00 PM
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7. I just saw the documentary regarding the anti-Chavez coup.
It's a MUST SEE. It's streaming on Google video, or torrents are available at mininova.org.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:43 PM
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5. Sounds like a MUST see.
I'm looking forward to it!
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:29 PM
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8. Chapman and World Vision
I hope the movie is worth watching. A good reference is: "Rethinking John Lennon's Assassination: The FBI's War on Rock Stars" by Salvador Astucia

There was a lapse in Lennon's security on the night he was killed on
December 8, 1980. Jose Perdomo, the security guard tasked to protect
the iron-gate entrance of the Dakota on the night Lennon was killed, was
an anti-Castro Cuban, a group with strong ties to the US intelligence
community since the failed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961.

Lennon’s younger son, Sean, had publicly stated his belief that his
father was likely assassinated by the United States government. In
recent years, Sean reportedly made the following statement:

" was a counterrevolutionary and was very dangerous to the
government.


World Vision was part of Chapman's life, and this organization was involved in some fairly shocking events. They ran the refugee camp in Sabra-Shatilla where the fascist Phalange were allowed in to kill the Palestinians.

The father in that family, John W. Hinkley Sr., was also the president of the board for World Vision. World Vision is a far-right evangelical missionary operation that does missionary and "good work" operations in countries where there is a political purpose for it to be there. From it's inception, it was rabidly anti-Communist and it focused on refugee populations of people running from countries that had been taken over by Communism. This was from the fifties on.

An interesting Hinkley/Chapman link concerns this World Vision, of which Chapman was a former member. In his capacity, Chapman visited refugee camps that--according to researcher John Judge--doubled as excellent recruiting grounds for intelligence operatives and assassins, which Chapman may very well have been, of the MK-ULTRA variety.

After his mid-70’s conversion to Christianity, Chapman traveled extensively. From where he received the money to fly around the world and stay at expensive hotels-- particularly during the period he was stalking Lennon--remains a mystery. A similar scenario existed with the likes of Arthur Bremmer and James Earl Ray, itinerant wanderers who seemed always to have an endless supply of ready cash on hand to fund their suspect travels. Chapman was in Beirut during a period when American soldiers of fortune were training future assassins-to-be, and might well have been there learning to use the tools of the trade from such masters as Edwin Wilson and Frank Terpil. Later, when Chapman assassinated Lennon, he did so in a military stance, that seemed to be more precision-like than he would have learned from the rent-a-cop training he received as a security guard.

Chapman recalls pulling a gun out of his pocket, but he does not recall aiming or firing the gun. Yet he has convinced himself that he murdered Lennon.

During a nervous breakdown episode Chapman experienced in Hawaii, he was institutionalized in the notorious Castle Memorial Hospital, the very same medical facility of certain select doctors who were involved in MK-ULTRA experiments for our friends at the CIA. Was it here that Chapman received his final programming to assassinate Lennon? Ominously, on his last day of work in Hawaii--when signing out--Chapman signed the name ‘John Lennon’, then scratched it out, suggesting that this was the main focus in his mind, as if it had been triggered and he was a torpedo heading for--and eventually zeroing in and destroying his target: a rock ‘n’ roll singer with heavy political leanings to the left.

It has been suggested by mind control researchers that Chapman was originally programmed by MK-ULTRA “handlers” and then kept on hold until he was “activated” by J.D. Salinger’s novel The Catcher In The Rye, in an identical manner that the Queen of Hearts was used as a post-hypnotic trigger in Richard Condon’s novel, The Manchurian Candidate. It should be noted that when Chapman was apprehended at the Dakota Building--after shooting Lennon--he was sitting, leaning against a wall, reading a copy of The Catcher In The Rye.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:41 PM
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9. One of the many reasons I piss on the memory of Strom Thurmond
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