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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:30 PM
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    Plame: 'Cheney and Rove Plotted to Destroy My Career' 
Okay.

My question is this: Why hasn't anyone around DU brought up the point that it is now OBVIOUS that Fitz gave a pass to Rove?! Plame & Wilson filing this case is proof of that, yet NO one around DU is discussing it?! I find that to be very very odd!

:wtf:


Plame: 'Cheney and Rove Plotted to Destroy My Career' 
    The Associated Press

    Friday 14 July 2006

Plame alleges Bush administration officials ruined her career.

    Washington - Former CIA officer Valerie Plame and her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, said Friday they decided to sue Vice President Dick Cheney and presidential adviser Karl Rove because they engaged in a "whispering campaign" to destroy her career.

    Plame told a news conference that "I and my former colleagues trusted the government to protect us in our jobs" and said it "betrayed that trust. I'd much rather be continuing my career as a public servant than as a plaintiff in a lawsuit."

    Said Wilson: "We are under no illusions about how tough this fight will be. But we believe the time has come to hold those who use their official positions to exact personal revenge accountable and responsible for their actions." His wife said they decided to pursue the lawsuit with "heavy hearts."

    In the suit filed Thursday in US District Court, Plame and her husband said that Cheney, Rove and Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, leaked her CIA status to reporters to punish Wilson for criticizing the Bush administration's motives in Iraq. (Watch Plame explain why they filed the lawsuit - 2:14)

<snip>
    Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald told Rove's lawyer last month that he had decided not to seek criminal charges against Rove.


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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406S.shtml

Same here:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/14/cialeak.lawsuit.ap/index.html
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:33 PM
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1. Maybe they think that there is something further to be accomplished by
Fitz, that there will be more indictments.

I don't. Sadly I think we've seen the works.


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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:41 PM
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5. Agree. Don't think we'll see anything more from Fitz.
This suit by Plame & Wilson is the only way they can get any justice. How sad.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:33 PM
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2. I am not convinced he gave a pass to Rove. Fitz needed a high standard
for convinction for such a public figure.
This civil suit does not need such a high standard. Just my gut feeling (disappointed greatly to say the least).
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:35 PM
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3. '"betrayed that trust." is very powerful.
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:38 PM
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4. What if Valerie were a man? Would "they" have outed a "him"
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:43 PM
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6. Really, I am aghast and lost for words!!!! What short, pathetic memories
we all have.

We are pathetic wimps, just like our leadership, and yes, I INCLUDE MYSELF IN THIS ASSESSMENT.

All this stupid equivocating "Maybe Fitz this, and many Fitz that".........

THE FIX IS IN, PEOPLE. SHALL WE CONTINUE OUR SLUMBER, OR WAKE UP!

Fitz is a sophisticated GOP tool, nothing more, nothing less. The big dogs are barking all the way back to the kennel.

I realized that when I saw that pathetic, whiny Novak on MTP this morning. Fitz has allowed Novak to "restate and rewrite and reinvent and re-lie", over and over again.

If Plame and Wilson do not include that slime ball Novak, after what he said this morning, I know the fix is in.

Let's make a list shall we.

A list of concrete facts that are what we know vs. what we wish.

A list of people being held accountable.

So far on my list, Dan Rather lost his job, (what a joke that whole thing was, it was distraction by Rove and Co. and pulled off like a Las Vegas magician).

Who do you have on your list that has suffered consequences, and been made to pay.

Tom DeLay?

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:20 PM
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7. Great Post!
I missed MTP so I can't comment on Novak.

However, I so agree that people need to wake up and get honest. And stop putting guys like Fitz on a pedestal, because it does serve or help us at all! Like you say he's a GOP tool-that's the reality.

Question: Where the F is Fitz' conscience?!

BTW, I also have a huge problem with how people idolize Bill & Hillary Clinton. Both of them have spent the past 5 + years pulling the democratic party to the right and condoning all the bullshit and hell * and his band of thugs have put the people of this country through!

Question: Where the F is Bill & Hillary's conscience?!

That's what I'd really like to know! :mad:
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 07:47 PM
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11. Where is yours?
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 07:48 PM by JulieRB
>Where the F is Fitz' conscience?!<

Hmm. Lemme' see. Goes to work for the government, instead of some big law firm that would be willing to pay him probably five times what he makes now. Gives up any semblance of a personal life because he's busy chasing terrorists around the globe and indicting their asses, not to mention some interesting threats on his safety because he dared to go after these people. Works his ass off, only to have his integrity questioned because he did his job?

I have posted this several times already; I think I'll post it again. Please. If you think you can do better, go to law school. You'll need to get into an Ivy League school; they cost plenty of money. Graduate buried under a mountain of student loan debt. Go to work as an assistant US Attorney. (I just looked up the salary information at Google; let's just say I don't think that AUSA's are getting rich.) Work 80 hours a week for the foreseeable future; try to have a personal life and relationships while working those hours.

By the way, I might also add that the original poster was incorrect. Rove was not told he would not be charged. The quote I read from his attorney was "not charged at this time." There's a hell of a lot of difference there.

Julie
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 10:45 PM
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13. Hmm. Hero Worship much?
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 10:46 PM by TheGoldenRule
Fitz fiddle farted around for way too long and then didn't indict Rove. Who by the way, Plame & Wilson are convinced was a part of the whole thing.

'Nuff said.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:03 AM
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14. And you know the full extent of the investigation how?
>Fitz fiddle farted around for way too long and then didn't indict Rove.<

Again. If you can do better, please do so, while packing Bush, Cheney, Rove and the entire power of the executive branch on your back.

Julie
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 07:36 PM
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10. Based on WHAT?
>Fitz is a sophisticated GOP tool, nothing more, nothing less.<

I know that the legal scholars here know better than I do, but did you ever stop to think that there may be information we DON'T know?

If Rove is indicted, he is unable to testify at Libby's trial. All focus now in that office has got to be on that trial, because if there is no trial, they will never be able to indict the real target, whom I believe is none other than Cheney. If he can't charge them with conspiracy and violations of the espionage act, (and he can't; those charges would be greymailed out of court in the length of time it's taken me to write this sentence,) they can be charged with perjury.

Please keep insisting that PJF's a "GOP tool". There's been hundreds of articles printed over the past year in the world's newspapers with factual evidence that he is apolitical, is not intimidated by job titles, and prosecutes cases he can win, at great risk to himself and any future career. His actions speak an awful lot louder than the continuing insistence that he is working on behalf of the GOP.

For whatever reason, he didn't charge Rove. It's not possible to charge a defendant simply because they're a shitstain on the fabric of society. There must be evidence to convict, and he either didn't believe he had it, or is planning a different strategy.

Julie
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:49 PM
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8. Kick!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:55 PM
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9. Why do you think Fitz gave Rove a free pass?
I'm curious to know what you think.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 08:57 PM
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12. I'm just glad that Rove was finally Indicted!
Aa reported on hundreds of blogs a few months ago (Maybe it was business months)..
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