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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:03 PM
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Congressional Resolution Supporting Israel?
I just heard on one of the cable 'news' channels that Congressional Republicans are planning to introduce as soon as next week a resolution fully supporting Israel's actions in Lebanon and the Gaza.

I am so sick of war ... I think the nation is becoming very war weary, too ...

... but I have a sinking feeling that a very large majority of Congressional Democrats would vote in favor of such a resolution.

Won't someone with a forum or platform please take a stand for peace and sanity?

Are we going to get stuck again with Bush/Cheney/Rove trumpeting "bipartisan" support for more war and aggressive foreign policy?
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:10 PM
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1. Oh dear lord
Give me a break. This Congress is a joke, but not ha-ha funny.

They'll pontificate for the cameras about allegiance to our allies and then add a secret rider cutting some social program. :eyes:
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:12 PM
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3. God, I am so sick of this.
I suppose one war-mongering nation has to support another. This is all so wrong.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:31 PM
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15. Plus it gives them the chance to say "terrorists"
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 01:31 PM by Mandate My Ass
over and over and over again while patting themselves on the back for being "tough on terrorism" and try to make the justification for Iraqnam look more palatable.

Welcome to DU. :hi:
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:11 PM
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2. I hope congressional democrats vote in favor
I am not pro-war by any stretch of the imagination and have been completely against the war in Iraq. However, I support Israels stance at this point in time and that is also the platform of the democratic party.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:15 PM
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5. Sadly, shamefully, our Dem enablers will support this murder and
destruction.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:16 PM
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6. You support bombing civilans? Did you support the 9/11 attacks as well?
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 01:18 PM by jseankil
Israel has killed over 150 innocents, you support that?
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:26 PM
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12. Come on
I would point out the fallacy of your analogy, but I get the feeling that you already know your analogy is crap.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:30 PM
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14. you're right. I just don't understand...
I just don't understand how one can say they support Israelis current tactics.
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:40 PM
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18. I have serious issues with Israel's recent actions
And I truly find collective punishment to be abominable and immoral. At the same time, I can't really say what Israel should do. Hezbollah have built their infrastructure in and around Lebanese civilians, and there's no other way for Israel to hit them, really. All I know is that the last couple of days I wake up and I thank God (despite being an athiest) that I don't live anywhere near there.

I just wish the U.N would get off its ass and do something (that said, our government would probably veto any U.N peacekeeping resolution) about it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:14 PM
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4. Of course the Democrats will vote for the Resolution...
Probably in higher numbers than the Republicans. So, what's new?
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:17 PM
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7. This is political pandering.
The GOP doesn't give a shit about American Jews, except that we are mostly Democrats and vote en masse against Republicans. This "resolution" is a way of showing Jews who supports Israel and who doesn't and will be used in the election.

Shameless political pandering.
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:22 PM
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9. etc, etc
Yes, but isn't it all shameless political pandering??? Bottom line..that is what it all boils down to after all the shouting is over.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:22 PM
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10. even Russ Feingold says Israel has the right to defend itself.
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:28 PM
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13. Which Israel does, and I will defend the Jewish state until my dying
breath.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:34 PM
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16. Will you defend the Palestinian state to the same degree? I think not
without logic all that is left is prejudices.
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:39 PM
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17. Thank you for telling me what I will defend. Rather presumptuous of you
And, I would defend a Palestinian state, if the PA can ensure that they want to coexist and not follow the primary objective of Hamas: "The destruction of Israel."

Now, you are on ignore because you made an inference about me with a snide and total disregard of logic.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:42 PM
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19. Okay. What about the Palestinians?
Do the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves?

This is probably Feingold's Achille's Heel politically ... it could put him in the same camp as Lieberman -- this uncritical support for whatever Israel ever does. Why can't these politicians in this country ever seek balance and fairness on this issue; it's always unwavering support for Israel and let hundreds of Palestinans or Lebanese get killed.

This trouble and violence in the Middle East will never end, in my opinion, until the U.S begins to be genuinely neutral between the Israelis and the Palestinians. As long as the United States always sides with Israel, no matter what kind of "collateral damage" and collective punishments and land grabs they commit, then Israeli politicians will never have any incentive to compromise.

The solution probably is simple, though the implementation difficult. If Israel would abide by UN resolutions 242 and 338 and return to the pre-1967 borders, then most Arab nations would recognize Israel. Enough time and events have passed that I think even Syria and Saudia Arabia and Iran would probably feel pressured to accept Israel under those circumstances.

But the U.S, simply will not cut foreign aid to Israel to pressure them to agree to a peaceful solution. And that is why peace just doesn't come to the Middle East.





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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:21 PM
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8. How to score political points by doing nothing.
Look constipated, give speech full of meaningless platitudes, and watch the polls.

Of course the Dems will follow suit. But, with more platitudes about "restraint" and "seeking a solution".
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:25 PM
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11. Amen
Look serious and concerned for the cameras!! A wonderful opportunity for much pontification.
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