Have No Doubt, Lebanon Is Being Shock & Awed by Israel, American Style

[leftchick]

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Smoke rises from a fuel tank at Beirut international airport after it was hit by Israeli warplanes July 16, 2006. REUTERS/George Maroun.(LEBANON)



Buildings are demolished in southern Beirut after the Hizbollah stronghold was attacked by Israeli air strikes, July 16, 2006. Israeli air raids shook Beirut on Sunday, the fifth day of a devastating assault on Hizbollah and Lebanon that has prompted no U.N. Security Council action and only a mild plea for restraint from Israel's U.S. ally. (Adnan Hajj/Reuters)



A Lebanese Red Cross rescuer walks amongst rubble carrying a plastic bag looking for remains of citizens after Israeli air strikes targeted a building in the southern village of Zebdine, near the market town of Nabatiyeh, Lebanon, Sunday, July 16, 2006. Israeli air strikes reduced entire apartment buildings to rubble and knocked out electricity in swaths of the Lebanese capital Sunday, and Israel dramatically escalated the ferocity of its campaign after Hezbollah rockets hit the northern city of Haifa. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)



Lebanese citizens rush for refuge, amongst rubble, after Israeli airstrikes targeted a residential building in the southern village of Zebdine, near the market town of Nabatiyeh, Lebanon, Sunday, July 16, 2006. Israeli airstrikes reduced entire apartment buildings to rubble and knocked out electricity in swaths of the Lebanese capital Sunday, and Israel dramatically escalated the ferocity of its campaign after Hezbollah rockets hit the northern city of Haifa. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)




A Lebanese man looks on a destroyed four storey building after it was struck by an Israeli warplane missile in Abbaseyeh village on the outskirts of the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday July 16, 2006. Israeli airstrikes reduced entire apartment buildings to rubble and knocked out electricity in swaths of the Lebanese capital Sunday, and Israel dramatically escalated the ferocity of its campaign after Hezbollah rockets hit the northern city of Haifa. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)



A Lebanese man looks at a destroyed three story building after it was struck by an Israeli warplane missile at the Abbaseyeh village on the outskirts of the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday July 16, 2006. Israeli airstrikes reduced entire apartment buildings to rubble and knocked out electricity in swaths of the Lebanese capital Sunday, and Israel dramatically escalated the ferocity of its campaign after Hezbollah rockets hit the northern city of Haifa. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)



A Lebanese girl inspects the damage at the family house caused by an attack by an Israeli warplane missile at an apartment building across the road, at the Abbaseyeh village on the outskirts of the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday July 16, 2006. Israeli airstrikes reduced entire apartment buildings to rubble and knocked out electricity in swaths of the Lebanese capital Sunday, and Israel dramatically escalated the ferocity of its campaign after Hezbollah rockets hit the northern city of Haifa. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)



Mariam Shihabiyah, 39, a divorced mother of five, carries her pillows as she leaves a bombed area of the southern suburbs where her apartment is situated in Beirut, Lebanon Sunday, July 16, 2006. After days of airstrikes concentrated on the densely populated residential area near the destroyed Hezbollah headquarters, Shihabiyah returned to salvage belongings from her apartment, minutes before another series of airstrikes hit the area. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis)





Marwa Abdallah, who survived Saturday's attack on a van in Tyre where twenty people where killed, rests at a hospital in Saida, south Lebanon July 16, 2006. Israeli air raids shook Beirut on Sunday, the fifth day of a devastating assault on Hizbollah and Lebanon that has prompted no U.N. Security Council action and only a mild plea for restraint from Israel's U.S. ally. REUTERS/Haidar Hawila (LEBANON)



A Palestinian woman sits at a school desk near her infant inside a UN-sponsored school classroom after they were evacuated from the Beit Hanoun area of the northern Gaza Strip Sunday July 16, 2006. Eleven Palestinian families were moved from their homes four days ago to a school in Beit Hanoun, but moved again Sunday to Gaza City when their school was caught in the clashes during an overnight incursion by Israeli troops. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)

and ya'all know the US is blamed equally with Israel aver this horror....



A Pakistani press photographer takes pictures of burning U.S. and Israeli flags set on fire by protestors during a rally to condemn the Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Palestine, Sunday, July 16, 2006 in Karachi, Pakistan. Protestors chanted slogans against the United States and Israel and demanded immediate action to stop the escalating violence by Israel. (AP Photo/Shakil Adil)

Many more photos here...

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/wl/080601mideast/im:/060716/481/kar10107161406

edit for question: wtf kind of rocket can take down a four story apartment building?

[Mojorabbit]

1. The look in the little girls eyes just tears me up. eom

[caligirl]

35. That far away, I'm not here look. Million miles away stare.

[catmother]

2. thank you for the photos. i don't want to look at any more. i am

totally upset and disgusted by what is going on. i support israel's right to defend itself, but i think they've gone too far. i know that they're trying to block access so iran and syria cannot get more weapons to Hezbollah, but does it have to be this drastic?:cry:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

3. Yes, they are...

and it disgusts me to no end. :(

And we paid for it with our tax dollars, and we will "pay" for it with increased hatred of the US for years to come.

[malaise]

4. This is absolute madness

Thanks Bushco -you've turned the planet into the wild west while stuffing cake and pig.

[babylonsister]

5. It does look like Iraq all over again. That history wasn't that

long ago; it appears no one learned from that either.:(

[chimpymustgo]

6. Kicking and Rec' ing...Everyone needs to see our tax dollars at work.

Outrageous.

[Tom Joad]

7. Strange, to look at the NYT headlines, only Israelis are dying.

Same thing on CNN. Lots of news of Israelis dying while serving in their military, that is attacking civilians in Gaza, Lebanon.

Little news of the many non-Israelis who are dying in places targeted by Israel.

[leftchick]

13. 125 Dead Lebanese

I think a dozen dead Israelis and you see where the emphasis lies. RW Media no doubt.

[Tom Joad]

26. Don't forget the dead Palestinians, either. Or the lack of water in Gaza.

or the backed up sewage due to lack of dependable electrical power. Or the hundreds of Palestinians held in intolarable conditions and subject to torture, or the hundreds of children in Israeli prisons or ... that one nation has been subjecting another people to occupation for decades...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

43. I think CNN just reported 23 dead Israelis

The point is not the number of dead on both sides. Any loss of innocent civilian life in this madness is very sad. The worse problem in the U.S. media I think is in always framing the situation as Israel's retaliation in response to Arab terrorism. Terrorists act and Israel reacts. I don't think that's always the case as this vendetta of tit-for-tat goes back a long, long way. I'm not trying to take sides here. But I just can't help but note that our media does.

[cali]

25. Odd, that comment

I have the front page of the NYT in my lap as I type. Above the fold is a large picture of dead Lebanese citizens laid out in rows. The caption reads: "At least 16 civilians were killed in what appeared to be an Israeli strike on a refugee convoy near a southern Lebanese village yesterday". There is nothing about Israeli injuries or deaths on the front page. Inside the paper details- as it should- the Lebanese casualties.

Accusations of bias are serious and should be founded. Perhaps you are referring to the online edition, but the hard copy of the paper is the standard by which to judge- and it was anything but biased toward Israel this morning.

I'm sorry I see so many knee jerk accusations from you.

[Singular73]

30. BS

It was headline news for a full day when an Israeli grandmother and grandchild died. Not a single word about dozens upon dozens of Palestenian and Lebanese deaths.

[cali]

32. LOL

Are you actually accusing me of making up what's on the front page of the NYT. Are you permanently stuck on, well you know.

[americanstranger]

31. The online edition seems to be more pro-Israel, IMO.

The headlines on nytimes.com right now is

Israel Strikes Back After Rockets Kill 8 in Haifa

Israel unleashed a fierce bombardment on targets in southern Beirut and southern Lebanon after a Hezbollah rocket attack on Israel’s third-largest city.

That headline and summary does sort of make it sound as if no air strikes on Lebanon had occurred before the Haifa attack.

- as

[mmonk]

8. Deja Vu

[ruggerson]

9. Have you posted scenes of Israeli carnage in Haifa and elsewhere?

Will we be treated to pictures of dead Israeli children and maimed civilians or are they inconsequential in your drive to pretend that this is all Israel's fault?

[mnhtnbb]

11. Killing children, no matter what nationality, is wrong. Israel is wrong,

Hamas is wrong, Hezbollah is wrong. There is enough wrong being done in the name of God, by whatever name, to go around.

And Bush, who claims to have been told by God to strike Iraq, is wrong, too.
Americans who support this idiocy are also wrong.

[mnhtnbb]

21. Oh. I forgot. It's only wrong to kill 'children' in the womb.

[leftchick]

12. all I saw at the link

were Israelis in bomb shelters. None with injuries. I would post them if they were there. Any deaths are senseless by these crazy bastards on both sides.

Nice try though.

[ruggerson]

14. Right

that's why the title of your OP is a blast at Israel and doesn't mention Hezbollah or Hamas.

[leftchick]

18. go look

for yourself, I provided a link. 99 % of the photos show the disproportionate devastation caused by American Paid Israeli bombs and rockets. That is why the title is as it is. If Hezbollah had caused this sort of killing I certainly would have posted it.

Why do you people always try to portray those of us sympathetic to a devastated country and its people as anti-Israel. I can not understand it. It is like bush's black and white thinking, "you are with us or against us" bullshit.

It is war and killing innocents I am against no matter what religion, country or color and it is a shame I have to explain that to a DUer.

[babylonsister]

24. leftchick, I'm with you. I find myself being very careful

to try to phrase anything I write to not insult anyone, though I'm sure I'll be getting a reaming soon enough.

"It is war and killing innocents I am against no matter what religion, country or color..."

Ditto that sentiment!

[uppityperson]

38. me too, killing any innocents is wrong.

being careful in writing anything, and deleting much of what I write, sometimes it just isn't worth responding.

[mnhtnbb]

20. see post 11.

[regnaD kciN]

34. But our tax dollars aren't funding Hezbollah or Hamas...

...they are funding every death of a Lebanese or Palestinian noncombatant.

Plus, there's the sheer lack of proportionality. The Islamic militants lauch what are essentially long-range mortars. Israel responds with advanced American weaponry...and against people other than those who launched those mortars. Why, it's almost as if, in response to 9/11, the U.S. had launched a massive invasion of a country not involved in the attacks, killing tens of thousands of...never mind.

:-(

[knitter4democracy]

10. Where is the American Christian outcry?

Seriously--many in Lebanon are Christians. I don't care if they're the "right" kind of Christian (whatever that means)--they are sisters and brothers in the faith, and I'm not hearing anything from the Christian press against this war. Are they that blind?

[mnhtnbb]

17. The right wing, Christian fundies, are loving this! Armageddon

is coming. They are salivating over all this war, death, and destruction.

The local paper today, News and Observer, Raleigh, NC carried a whole
thing on whether this is the 'end times' in their Opinion section.

These fundies LOVE this stuff. They are perverted and sick, really sick.

http://www.newsobserver.com/690/story/460976.html

They also published a "guide to the apocalypse" which is not available on-line. In it, they printed pictures of candidates for the anti-Christ.
No picture of Bush among them. Funny how they don't include the guy who is leading the charge on all this war. http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

[knitter4democracy]

28. Sick and wrong.

I have never understood all that Rapture fervor, even when I was an evangelical (now I'm Eastern Orthodox). God won't come any sooner than He wants to, war in the Middle East or not. I'm not sure when they'll get that into their heads. People are dying! They should be ashamed of themselves! Surely God is weeping at all this.

[BeHereNow]

19. Indeed- WHERE is the outcry?

Oh, that's right, Jeebus only loves WHITE Christians.
These particular Christians happen to be BROWN,
so they don't count.
FUCKING hypocrites!
BHN

[leftchick]

27. yes a lot of christians being killed in Lebanon

have a Lebanese Catholic friend who voted for the jackass. I wonder what he is thinking now?

[knitter4democracy]

29. Nope, they're the wrong kind.

Most of them are Catholic and Eastern Orthodox. If they were evangelicals or fundies, we might hear a voice of outrage or two. Because they're not the right kind, we hear nothing. I'm frankly disgusted.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. With the same results for civilians.

And, the same results, or worse, for the murderers.

[Disturbed]

23. Israeli Govt. message to Lebanese Citizens:

Keep supporting Hezbullah and expect more destuction and death.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. The sledgehammer school of diplomacy works soooo well.

See Iraq for similar results.

[mmonk]

16. The big question is

will Beiruit look like it did years ago when all the fighting was going on? We might have pushed Syria out too fast for ideological rather than well thought out foreign policy. Round and round we go.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. delete

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[leftchick]

33. Damn! There is no let up! More photos....

Lebanese men carry an injured boy out of a building that holds the Lebanese Interior Ministry's civil defense center of Tyre, after it was attacked by an Israeli warplane at the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday, July 16, 2006. Israeli airstrikes reduced entire apartment buildings to rubble and knocked out electricity in swaths of the Lebanese capital Sunday, and Israel dramatically escalated the ferocity of its campaign after Hezbollah rockets hit the northern city of Haifa. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)



A storage house is set ablaze after an Israeli airstrike targeted it in Ouzaei, on the coast in south Beirut, Lebanon, Sunday, July 16, 2006, as the main airport runway is seen in the background. Israeli airstrikes reduced entire apartment buildings to rubble and knocked out electricity in swaths of the Lebanese capital Sunday, and Israel dramatically escalated the ferocity of its campaign after Hezbollah rockets hit the northern city of Haifa. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)

[Just Me]

37. Seems to me, the U.S. is an empire with moral emptiness.

Seems to me.

PNAC + AIPAC = destruction.

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[AnOhioan]

40. You lost me at "Illuminati" n/t

[SlipperySlope]

41. There are still building standing and people walking.

Israel is showing way too much restraint.

[Alpharetta]

42. Yep. The US set the standard

Shock and Awe proved to Israel how brutal a superior military could be on civilians with very little economic repercussions.

Europe keeps doing business with the U.S. In fact, no economic sanctions at all have been placed on the US for the illegal war and the lies which led to it.

And Israel knows the only economic sanctions they could face would be from the US. It's the US that gives them $12 Billion in loans which are "forgiven" every year, and the biggest armed force in the Middle East.

Shock and Awe was the litmus test. Now Israel knows they can act with impunity in their long term liquidation of Lebanon.