Why can't governments see that war is a lose, lose situation?

[Rex]

Baring a return to the Middle Ages, do not nations see that no matter if you 'win' or 'lose' a modern war, you lose capital and people so in other words YOU LOSE NO MATTER WHAT!?! There are no winners in war, just losers and a lot of dead people. Killing the 'enemy' doesn't make you a winner or right, just faster or luckier than the corpse at your feet! Which is more immoral; a 12 year old shooting a soldier or a soldier shooting a 12 year old? Which one is more justified; the plane that drops bombs or the guy who straps a bomb to his chest? What if they both only kill innocent people.

Humans have a zillion languages, customs and habits but the one thing we universally embrace is war and the 'glory of battle'.

[PSPS]

1. Carlyle and bush cronies make out like bandits. So they win.

They're raking in billions daily while people die. It's the republican way!

[Rex]

2. To few people calling the shots.

We've let the few, wrong people take command and now everything is out of control.

[knowbody0]

4. and halliburton selling contaminated water to our military

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. But they can't take it with them

and he who dies with the most toys is still dead. Even if you don't believe in the Day of Judgement, you must believe that unchecked war will eventually come to harm those who perpetuate it and profit from it.

[hlthe2b]

3. War is bad for the people...

But good for the elitist investor class.....Who matters, after all?

[jobycom]

7. Bingo. It's good for the people who start it, just bad for the rest of us.

[akazoo]

5. Mr. President Doctrine

What do you expect, Mr. President has his finger on the WAR button and is enjoying the click of it!! Here he gave Israel a green light publicly, while I strongly think that it was given the command to go to war with so called "Hizbulla" ... which in return Israel enjoys destroying lighthouses hundreds miles away from the Hizbulla militants!

[newyawker99]

20. Hi akazoo!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Mind_your_head]

6. It used to be criminal and socially abhorrent to be a "war profiteer"

Now, *, Cheney, Carlisle Group, Halliburton, so many other persons/corporations are OPENLY "war profiteers" and society goes :shrug:

How far we've fallen in so short a time. :cry:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. Wars and rumors of wars

seems to be a summation of world history; at least recent history. Somehow we must change our mindset about our embrace of the glory of battle. As the Prophet said, the real battle is within onesself-to overcome the ego and find the True Peace. This is not easy to do; perhaps that is why mankind has so often resorted to the lesser struggle of war.

[otokogi]

9. it goes to their heads, literally...

but weTHEpeople always pay the price

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Alas, governments are made up of politicians.

Who owe their allegience, not to the people, but to their ambitions.

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken

[ladjf]

12. Because in the short term, wars are gain, gain, gain for those

who want to make war. Look at Bush. Without wars he would have already been prematurely relegated to the "dust bin" of history. Look at Halliburton, the oil companies and all the others that have profited. We are spending $230,000 per day in Iraq right now.

For all the rest of us, you and me, wars are lose,lose and more lose. We ain't in charge.

[ellenfl]

13. for the military industrial complex, it's a win/win situation. eom

[NNadir]

14. I have no idea. It's been obvious for thousands of years, but we don't

get it.

[PA Democrat]

15. I think Bush entered the White House with every intention of being a "war

president" because he knew what it could do for his approval ratings and that he would have a very good chance for reelection if the country was in the middle of a war during the 2004 elections. Presidents have always been reelected when the US is in the middle of a war.

When Bush's daddy was president and Saddam had officially surrendered, Dubya was aboard Air Force One strutting around like a proud peacock and saying he couldn't imagine why anyone would vote for a Democrat now. I guess Poppy's problem was that the Gulf War had bben neatly wrapped up and the country refocused on other issues when the '92 elections rolled around.

Dubya has also criticized Poppy Bush for not taking advantage of his temporary surge in poll numbers from the Guld War to ram every bit of legislation he wanted through Congress.

[kestrel91316]

16. It's not about who wins or loses. It's about who makes $$ off the deal.

[leftofthedial]

17. business wins no matter what

it's a racket

trade the public (lives, tax money, opportunity cost of lost services and infrastructure, etc.) for private profit.

have you looked at Halliburton's stock since the coup?

[jwirr]

18. Because too often it is not. Especially for the war profiteers.

[The2ndWheel]

19. Governments and nations don't see

http://antiwar.com/bourne.php

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/WarHealth_PeoplesHx.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/War_Peace/War_Gives_Meaning.html