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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:13 AM
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Right-wing media all confused: Is U.S. now in World War III, IV, or V?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200607140017

With the recent escalation of violence in the Middle East and a terrorist attack in Mumbai, India, the right-wing media have declared a new "world war" but have not agreed upon which world war the United States now faces: World War III, IV, or V.

World War III?

Most recently, on the July 13 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly said "World War III ... I think we're in it." Similarly, on the July 13 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, a graphic read: "On the verge of World War III?" As Media Matters for America has noted, CNN Headline News host Glenn Beck began his program on July 12 with a discussion with former CIA officer Robert Baer by saying "we've got World War III to fight," while also warning of "the impending apocalypse." Beck and Baer had a similar discussion on July 13, in which Beck said: "I absolutely know that we need to prepare ourselves for World War III. It is here."

World War IV?

On the July 10 edition of Fox News' The Big Story, host John Gibson interviewed Michael Ledeen, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), and said "some are calling the global war on terror something else, something more like World War III." But Ledeen responded that "it's more like World War IV because there was a Cold War, which was certainly a world war." Ledeen added that "probably the start of it {World War IV} was the Iranian revolution of 1979." Similarly, on the May 24 edition of CNBC's Kudlow and Company, host Lawrence Kudlow, discussing a book by former deputy undersecretary of defense Jed Babbin, said "World War IV is the terror war, and war with China would be World War V."

Other conservatives have previously suggested the "war on terror" as "World War IV." In a September 2004 article, Commentary editor-at-large Norman Podhoretz noted "World War III (that is, the cold war)" and that "the great struggle into which the United States was plunged by 9/11 can only be understood if we think of it as World War IV." And in January 2005, FrontPageMag.com hosted a symposium called "Ukraine and World War IV."

World War V?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:29 AM
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1. Maybe World War V or VI, anyway...
depending on how you count.

The first 'world war' was arguably the Seven Years' War (French & Indian War in North America) which saw fighting in North America, Europe,Africa and Asia; then there are the Napoleonic Wars, with fighting in North America, Europe, Africa, and some parts of Asia.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:30 AM
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2. This is so assinine. The Cold War was its own "war." WW3 is yet to come..
eom
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:31 AM
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3. Thanks to globalization, it's really just a civil war. nt
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:35 AM
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4. Warmonger Faux News love to beat the war drums!They Are WAR Cheerleaders.
I hate Faux news! More than 800,000 American troops have rotated through Iraq in three and a half years of a war that the cheerleaders said would be a ''slam-dunk'' and ``a cake-walk". History will not be kind or forgiving of any of them. Nor should it be.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 01:52 AM
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8. A sad testament to the FAUX watchers...
The TV somehow was left on the wrong channel yesterday. As I passed by, I heard the anchor say something about Israel bombing "Beirut, the capitol of Lebanon". He had to tell the friggin audience where the fu#@ Beirut is!!! :puke:
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:40 AM
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5. It's just constant war now
The Roman numerals are obsolete.
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:49 AM
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6. we're obsessed with war.
how bout fox's "War Stories"
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 01:05 AM
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7. Drop the Roman Numerals
It's 3.2

The truth is it's a beta test for version 4.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:58 AM
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10. more truth to that concept than we are willing to accept I fear....
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:45 AM
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9. IF in fact it is a World War
then it depends on your interpretation.
#1 - The Seven Years War (French & Indian War to us)
#2 - The Great War
#3 - The 1940's thing which could also be called the Great War part 2 with an intermission and shuffling of alliances.
#4 - The Cold War
#5 - The War on Terror which is being fought in skirmishes and larger actions throughout the entire globe.

Again depends on interpretation and if this really is a World War. I don't think it's so much a conservative vs liberal issue as one of just what do we call it. People are entitled to their opinions, even the folks at Faux News. Don't agree with them, but they are entitled to think what they want.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:05 AM
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11. Actually, we are at war now with Eurasia, didn't you get the memo?
Eastasia we are friends with and never at war with.

Now, where is that hate week meeting gonna be held for our block?

Somewhere close to room 101, I suppose.
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