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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 01:42 AM
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Freep Beatle fans?
Libs don't hold the patent on good music, and I think that music is one of the true equalizers in our society. However, I am still surprised when I come across conservative Beatle fans. Please Don't bother asking me why it surprises me as I have no idea. It just doesn't compute.

Perhaps it's my denial. I do not want to believe that some cons used to be liberals. I also refuse to believe that anyone could experience the Beatles without being affected by their message....which was definitely not conservative.

Just sayin'....

:hi:

Ringo leading All-Starrs on tour (incredibly sloppy/inaccurate reporting by UPI)


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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:01 AM
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1. well I guess "Taxman" could be considered conservative
:shrug:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:13 AM
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2. In an AOL poll they tried to say that the Sex Pistols were Cons.
I mean the Sex Pistols, for fucks' sake. What part of "God Save the Queen/And Her Fascist Regime" did they not get?
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:17 AM
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3. Here's to combating revisionist history!
:toast:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:28 AM
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4. Indeed!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:52 AM
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13. well, to many Freepers
Hitler was a leftist...
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:34 AM
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5. I don't understand it at all!
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:00 AM
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6. i think the difference is in how not what
IE:

The freeps seeing how we handle the poor as something at the local/state/church/personal level while dems who like the same music see it as something that should be handled at the fed level.

Both don't want to see people being poor, but each side disagrees on what causes it and how to fix it. Somewhere in the middle is where I think most people exist.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:07 AM
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7. Happiness is a warm gun
They take the literal viewpoint.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:34 AM
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8. Every Beatles fan I ever met was a psycho
I never thought of the severely mentally ill as having political leanings, LOL. All I ever thought of was doing my best to avoid these people. From the Beatle-drone magazine editor who harassed me through the mail, to the likes of Mark David Chapman and Charles Manson, I've yet to hear about a hardcore Beatles fan who wasn't completely off his rocker.

I like the Beatles' politics, dislike their music, and loathe their fans. Maybe it's because, being involved in record-collecting circles, I've encountered *so many* Beatles fans, but...all I know is, they freak me out. I withdrew from the hobby, so I wouldn't have to encounter these people anymore. :scared:

I'm not surprised that there are freeper Beatles fans, since Beatles fans spent every waking moment telling us Gen X'ers that our generation and our music meant nothing, and trying to force their favorites and their lifestyle on us. Ramming one's beliefs down the throats of others is truly a freeper hobby....
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:54 AM
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9. But don't most "hardcore fans" of something...
...seem "psycho" to one degree or another to those who aren't into it? I know most people who are really into things I don't understand the appeal of at all seem kind of weird to me, but I figure as long as they aren't hurting anyone else it doesn't really matter if I understand them anyway. I get the feeling you aren't being totally serious about the "psycho" (as in "psycho" in the literal sense) comment anyway, but I just wanted to post as someone who considers themself a hardcore Beatles fan but not a psycho. I have hundreds of Beatles/solo LPs, CDs, 45s, etc., some memorabilia, several books, and know all kinds of useless trivia about the guys and their music. But I don't try to press being a big fan of them on anyone else (unless wearing a T-shirt counts), and it doesn't bother me if someone else isn't a fan of them. And I honestly haven't noticed Beatles fans being any worse about doing this than fans of other bands. That's just my experience, though...
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:25 AM
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10. Every Beatles fan
is not in "record collecting circles" & I daresay the overwhelming majority are not. Your extremely limited, anecdotal experiences with a handful of unbalanced people is NOT a valid reason to characterize admirers of the Beatles as "psychos"-- but go ahead & have your fun. You claim to dislike their music, but the only reasons you actually mention for disliking it all seem connected to this handful of individuals you believe have harrassed you & declared that your generation & its music mean "nothing." Don't be so defensive, don't leave yourself open to their meaningless taunts! Get real...The Beatles performed in so many different styles that your blanket condemnation of their music sounds like either ignorance or emotional overreaction, probably the latter. I have never, ever met a musician or music-lover (& I've known many) who genuinely hated "everything" by the Beatles-- always, always there is some moment of brilliance in the Beatles' music that they found impossible to discount or belittle, even if they couldn't admire everything they did. Thus I think you protest too much. Freepers seem to me to be divided, psychotic people-- so woefully compartmentalized in their thinking that they can see the beauty of Beatles music in the undamaged part of their minds & at the same time torture themselves & others with hateful thoughts & the desire to punish & injure-- all the result of displaced self-loathing that more-than-likely began in their family situation. Don't let these ridiculous, hateful people define your experiences for you, including your experience of the Beatles.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:41 AM
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12. surely you know that "fan" is short for "fanatic?" n/t
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 06:51 AM
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15. Wow! Just wow.
YOU :scared: me. Just the fact that you don't like the Beatle's music is beyond comprehension. Then to call Beatle fans psychos is really absurd. You do realize that a lot of DUers are Beatle fans. Does that make us psychos too?
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:29 AM
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11. I saw Ringo and All-Starrs in Boston
a couple of years ago. Took my Mum, she had always wanted to see the Beatles and never got the chance, so this was the closest I could get for her. We're both wicked big fans, and it was an awsome concert.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 06:39 AM
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14. Cons like Pre-Rubber Soul Beatles
n/t
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 07:02 AM
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16. I have noticed this with fans of other liberal musicians too
but there are always some fans who get pissed when they talk anti-Bush or use their music as a political tool. In essence they are there just for the sounds apparently and don't want serious lyrics to bog down their experience.

With the Beatles though I see a lot of Baby Boomers who were fans and thus the greatest generational disappointment in my view.

As a Gen Xer I look back at the Boomers and see how they rallied and protested to get Civil Rights laws changed, to fight an immoral war and president, to work for peace love and happiness... and a generation of music that speaks of that fight was born..

And then they got older. Sure some are still liberals ("hippies" as termed to this day by right wingers), but a large portion of those very same young liberal kids from the 60s are now the mindless right wingers who vote for Bush, support THIS immoral war and consider dissent treasonous.

How sad is that?

Rp
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