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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:16 PM
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Bedwetters and Hyperventilators
Listening to Gore yesterday helped me distill my own thoughts on Bush's brazen lawbreaking of late.

The people supporting Bush on the FISA violations are a bunch of bedwetters and hyperventilators -- or, as they used to say in my old neighborhood in The Bronx, a bunch of punk-ass bitches.

These cowards are too ready to give away whatever rights they may possess in the snivelling belief that Daddy President is gonna protect them from the big bad monsters.

9/11 was a horrific event, with a spectacular degree of shock value. But the movement it represents is NOT the biggest existential threat the US has ever faced.

In World War II, when fascists plotted to literally take over the world; in the Civil War, when the U.S. was literally on the brink of disintegration; during the Cold War, when the U.S. literally faced total annihilation on a moment's notice from real weapons of mass destruction, the president was not free to violate laws clearly written by Congress in the interests of "national security." And while this current "war" may be of a different type, it represents no greater threat to the nation than those earlier conflicts.

Folks need to snap out of it. Stop peeing in your pants. Giving the government the right to ignore any laws it feels like will NOT make you safer. It will just make you weaker.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:19 PM
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1. I heard the National ID squad out again this morning
volunteering to give up everyone else's rights so they could feel safe shopping for Prada at the mall.

I have a proposal. If you want to give up your own rights, please feel free to do so. Just don't feel free to expect the rest of us to shit ourselves trying to give up ours too.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:31 PM
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2. In fact it is far less of a threat.
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 03:35 PM by endarkenment
However, like its predecessor the 'Cold War' it is a permanent state of affairs, and there is clear evidence that the beneficiaries of the 'War on Terror' intend to keep it going for as long as they possibly can. It is no coincidence that the Cold War Hawks are the ideological ancestors of the Neocons, and in some cases are the exact same people. The worst thing that happened to them was the end of the cold war. There was a serious danger of a prolonged episode of world peace and prosperity. Luckily for them, through a serious of fortunate circumstances and odd conincidences, all of that is behind us.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:43 PM
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3. you're right...
They're a bunch of pantywaists and woosies.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:48 PM
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4. I couldn't agree more
I was born in the early 60's and the Cuban Missile crisis/cold war were still fresh in the minds of the adults around me.

Growing up when I did...by the time I reached highschool age it was sort of a GIVEN in my mind and in that of my friends, that it was just a matter of time until the Soviet Union and the US would start nuking each other.

Did we hide, pray 24/7, or drive around with yellow ribbons and flags affixed to our vehicles?

Hell no --we actually LIVED life to the fullest (Ok it was the 70's and maybe in some cases we lived it a little *too full*) but we didn't run around whining and wringing our hands about *terror*

Hijackings of planes and *terror* BTW were ROUTINE in the 1970's--perhaps the bush admin has never seen "Airport" or a hundred other terror flicks of that era.

I cannot even imagine what people who lived through actual *danger* must think of this idiotic hype being foisted upon us now...imagine living through WW2 and seeing all this pantywaisted bullshit that goes on now.

I frankly cannot imagine.
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:49 PM
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5. Some of us believe that fascists are literally planning...
to take over the world again, which was why 9-11 was planned and executed by the Bush administration in the first place...

Headache...curious. I guess I gotta go back to the basement and don my AFB, again.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:52 PM
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6. Well now that actually IS scary
I won't dispute that...
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dgauss Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:53 PM
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7. The "War on Terror" is their Magic Wand.
They just wave it around and people fall into fearful trance.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:59 PM
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8. Democracy doesn't come in a bubble pack.
I totally agree. This is exactly what I have been watching. In fact, my first comparison of Democrats and Republicans (which is not valid) is that one is more of a thrill seeker and the other is more of a comfort and safety seeker.
I have been disgusted by what I see. A slow building of fear, trading off control and freedom for protection and safety. And it is in little increments which almost no one can deny. Whether it's seat belt or helmet laws, or even dui laws. The fact is, the tradeoff seems legit. Not unlike how we have looked up to corporations to do it for us, we are doing so with our government.

We forgot about the Constitution.

I spent years in disgust. But then, I am self sufficient and brave. I lived on bare land for 11 months waiting for the power company to bring the the electricity. Talk about taking a brave step to achieve a goal. Most people can't do without their daily trips to the market, let alone trying to fix a generator in the rain. But I digress. Or do I?

I'm anxious to see this country return to sanity. I mean, not everything comes in a bubble pack. The level of fear has slowly been rising, until now we are boiling alive in it.

Land of the brave, my ass. It's time to change. Time to realize that life isn't easy. And it isn't safe. So get used to it. Or else, they'll have you by the neck.

Fear is the state they want us in.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:04 PM
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9. Much likey!! K&R'd!
Thanks for putting it so succinctly!
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