LeftHander
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Mon Jul-17-06 10:24 AM
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DU Still #1 for Progressive Democrats |
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(Repost from kentuck thread - thought it deserved it's own thread...sry mods)
Over the months DU has shifted a little to the center, but it is still very left and the mainstay voice for Democratic Party progressives on the internet. It will sway gently left and right on the parabolic arch of public awareness and we simply just have to ride along, stay true to our vision and keep promoting the causes we know result in peace and prosperity.
Yes lots of long time regulars left or post very infrequently now. Yes there are more trolls.
But a few of us still hang on. I am as far left as you can get...and will go toe to toe with any centrist or GOP paid troll here as will many. Many of us are upset beyond anything we could of imagined 6 years ago. For some it has deeply effect their ability to look ahead and retain hope for a better future.
Most here react to every little news item and the trolls make sure we keep responding to every left division creating story. They gang up and coordinate posts to keep divisive issues on the front page. Despite this we still have the ability to enter into meaningful discourse on topics that matter and LBN is still the best and mose diverse breaking new source on the internet.
So all is not bad. Because I believe this, I am still here.
I really believe the future is in progressive politics and DU is the best place to formulate ideas that will propel us into the future.
I believe the future will bring us:
Socialized medicine and higher education, reduced military spending, renewable energy investment, conservation and shifting our focus from a global market consumer/oil based economy to a more localized community scaled economies (one of my favorite topics). i.e. Each community produces what it needs to flourish and trade with other communities. Rather than having one country produce the food another produce the shoes another produce the steel...we go smaller and throw the "economy of scale" economic mantra out. "Economy of Scale" is only useful for large conglomerates to maximize profit and crush competition, it does nothing else beneficial. Goods and services suffer, as does the environment and society in general as corporations grow so large they influence culture and effect international relationships.
In addition to economic reform society will change as well, Marriage Equity will be a reality and we will see the overtly obnoxious narrow vision of the Christian right fade in the public eye.
We will prevail. We all know this is where the future lies. But our regressionist friends, greedy bigots and war profiteers will continue hold sway over us for a time, but their time will end soon and we will still be here. With all our ideas, all our passion for better future for our decedents.
So take heart and and look to the future, stay focused that world can be a better place sometime, maybe not for us now.
We set the example for the next generation that will change the world.
Peace.
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Mon Jul-17-06 10:33 AM
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1. DU is the only blog for me. A great community of caring people |
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that don't always agree on everything which is one reason DU is so good. The diversity of people, ideas, & opinions is what DU and America stand for. It's a great source of news, info, & conspiracies. Sometimes it gets silly, but sometimes silly is what we need.
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Tue Jul-18-06 07:18 AM
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20. I dunno, I thnk they cuss too fucking much! |
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Mon Jul-17-06 10:36 AM
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2. It would seem that extreme right requires an extreme left. To me, |
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progressive left represents what my country is supposed to be all about. A good country of good people trying to do better for themselves and their countrymen.
The extreme right leads us to war and keeps at war. Not what I want from my country. In addition to: Forced religion. Laws covering thoughts. Snitching neighbors. Total control. Endless killings and political massacres. This is not my country. Wealth for a few. People of colors in prisons. Prisons for profits for a few and outlets for bigots. Drug un-control, more like drug dealing right along with nuclear trafficking. It is not progressive left.
Thanks for your posting - you said it well.
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Mon Jul-17-06 10:36 AM
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I have nothing substantial to add to a well written and substantial post.
Thank you and K & R.
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Mon Jul-17-06 10:38 AM
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4. I don't know what I'd do without all of my friends on DU |
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Mon Jul-17-06 10:39 AM
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5. Yes, through it all DU is always here |
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is there any other blogs?? peace to all :hi: Rec
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Mon Jul-17-06 10:41 AM
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6. Don't say "Socialized Medicine." It's called "Universal Health Care." |
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"Socialized Medicine" is the Repuke framing.
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LeftHander
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Mon Jul-17-06 12:46 PM
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11. Call a duck a duck....not a Amphibious Aerial Migrator...nt |
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Mon Jul-17-06 03:50 PM
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"It's called "Universal Health Care."
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Mon Jul-17-06 11:31 AM
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7. You are right, er, correct! |
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I get mad at people in discussions, but it is like a lover's quarrel & I always get over it. I need this place, I would have lost it years ago without it and all of you! Thanx for helping me hang on to my sanity, or at least what is left of it.
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Mon Jul-17-06 11:40 AM
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8. How on earth do you average the political position of DU? |
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There are so very many posters here. Just curious! :)
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Mon Jul-17-06 12:50 PM
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12. Dang! That was my question! |
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And not meant as a rhetorical one, either. Just wondering how you can tell in a place this H U G E. . .
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I sure do love it here, though. I read far more than I post and find even just the format here to be so much easier to follow than things like Koz - which looks more spiffy - but sure is hard to read through with all those staggered comments and things you hve to click through to finish reading :freak:
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Mon Jul-17-06 11:42 AM
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9. Plan B 2.0 realization and Tom Brokaw's Discovery Ch. special |
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Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 11:42 AM by EVDebs
Global Warming, What you need to know http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/globalwarming/globalwarming.htmlPlan B 2.0 http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/PB2/Contents.htmalong with Amory Lovin's 'Winning The Oil End Game' www.oilendgame.com all lead to the same place politically and pragmatically. It is NOT the Republican party's agenda and it must become the progressive's, Democratic and Green parties, to own. This has the potential to wipe the Republican's off the map politically since relevance is the gold standard of politics.
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Tue Jul-18-06 07:28 AM
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22. Now hold on - Greens run AGAINST Democrats. Any votes they |
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earn, and I admit up front that votes don't belong to anyone but the voter, go into the green column and don't elect Democrats. (yes, as an exception I acknowledge that in some places like New York you can run on more than one ticket and the votes go to the individual's overall count, not the party).
Imagine this scenario:
Democrat Ned Lamont: 678,000 Green Joe Schmoe: 25,000
Independent Joe Liebermann: 680,000
A clear victory for Democrats & Greens? No, Greens are competitors to be defeated, period. Tell me with a straight face that they wouldn't deep six every Democrat candidate if they thought the'd get elected.
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Tue Jul-18-06 09:12 AM
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23. Dems can't beat the Green's agenda...better do what other parties |
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did in the past (think EVDebs and the socialist's agenda, 8 hr workday, child labor and food/drug laws etc. etc.) and start co-opting the Green's agenda.
Or, you can be like the Republicans and just become as irrelevent. BTW, I may be a Green but I usually vote Democrat. Go figure.
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Mon Jul-17-06 11:45 AM
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10. I love DU, I have learned, grown, expanded my knowledge base |
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while starting to look at issues from all sides instead of the "quick glance, make up mind" perspective I once had.
I start every morning with LBN to see what is happening in the world, read the posted comments and then move on to GD for further discussion, dissemination and, yes, even complete disagreement, all of which broadens my thinking.
Thank you admins, mods and DUers for this most unique, wonderful "university" of knowledge.
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Mon Jul-17-06 01:15 PM
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13. Any good resources concerning localized community scaled economies? |
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Sounds like something that I might be in to and would like to read a bit more about it. Thanks.
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Tue Jul-18-06 07:16 AM
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Mon Jul-17-06 03:53 PM
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15. Great Post thanks LeftHander |
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Yes, we care often that's why we are slapped down but we get up again, we want a world where we are people based not a war based, war profiteer economy.
:-)
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Mon Jul-17-06 03:55 PM
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16. I hadn't noticed it shifting a little to the center |
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It seems to be as left wing as it always was.
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Mon Jul-17-06 07:24 PM
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Mon Jul-17-06 08:52 PM
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I am very happy to have this place a year and one week ago!
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Tue Jul-18-06 07:22 AM
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21. So who's #2, then? nt |
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