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Mon Jul-17-06 04:07 PM
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IF get Syria to get Hizbullah to stop doing this shit,will it be over? |
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If Syria got Hezbullah to stop bombing Israel, and to return whatever Israelis they had, would Israel let it be over? Or is Mr.bush just talking out his ass deluded as usual?
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:09 PM
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What do you suppose would happen if the U.S. got Israel to stop and they disarmed?
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:12 PM
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2. "disarmed" you mean no arms anymore at all? |
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I'm talking about just stopping the current round of war/killing. Do you mean no Israelis armed at all, or if Israel agreed to stop? If first, no way would that happen. If second, both sides need to stop, be good to happen at exact same moment, but someone will have to make sincere show of stopping first. Difficult because neither side trusts the other to do as they say they will. We need a Jimmy Carter or some such person to bring both sides together for a cease fire (temp) to give time to work on things.
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:14 PM
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3. Israel will never disarm, nor should they. |
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Hizb'allah should and must disarm! Israel is a nation and must maintain a military. Hizb'allah a "militant militia" is in a country that has internationally recognized borders.
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:24 PM
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10. "... must maintain a military" |
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Where exactly is that rule written. No country must maintain a military, it is the choice of a country to maintain a standing military force.
Isn't it Costa Rica that does not maintain a military force?
Even the US military wasn't envisioned as a permanent standing army.
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:37 PM
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15. The neighbors don't want Costa Rica exterminated. (nt) |
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:41 PM
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I was just about to get to that post. You handled it nicely. :)
:hi:
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Mon Jul-17-06 05:14 PM
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18. But there was supposed to be a permanent Navy |
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"raise and army and maintain an navy..."
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:25 PM
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11. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. |
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A gander's a male goose, if you're keeping score at home.
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:39 PM
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16. Were the situation as simplistic as that statement. n/t |
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Mon Jul-17-06 05:18 PM
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19. No one is asking Lebanon or Israel to disarm |
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just a militant group that has no international recognition. Note that this was called for in a UN resolution but Hezzbollah has refused to stand down and turn over the territory it controls to the Lebanese government.
If it was not for the arms and money flowing from outside, Hezbollah would not exist
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:22 PM
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8. Well, you know that old joke "how many Israelis can you fit in the |
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Mediterranean?"
You'd find out the answer rather quickly.
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:26 PM
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13. the wish of many would come to fruition... |
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:16 PM
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4. It will never be completely over. |
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There are issues and disputes going back thousands of years at work here. Maybe the current skirmish would be over, and some kind of peace agreement could be brokered, but sooner or later there would be more war in the area.
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:18 PM
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5. Those are two of the three conditions |
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That the Lebanese gov't, however they choose and by whatever means they can manage it, call off Hiz'b'Allah and get those servicemembers back to Israel, AND that the Lebanese Army occupy the southern end of Lebanon (the old Green Zone) and drive the Hiz'b'Allah factions out of there.
Problem is, probably twenty percent of the Lebanese Army is ALSO Hiz'b'Allah.....
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:19 PM
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:21 PM
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7. If it will "never be over", what is the incentive for EITHER side to stop |
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Mon Jul-17-06 07:46 PM
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22. defunding both sides -- forcing them to negotiate |
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:24 PM
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9. Bush kicked Syria out of Lebanon |
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led by COndi and some US backed flag wavers.
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:25 PM
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12. NO because then the Israeli CIA will just keep firing rockets into |
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Mon Jul-17-06 04:32 PM
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14. Syria does not control Hiz'bullah, nor did it ever. nt |
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Mon Jul-17-06 05:19 PM
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20. Technically no, it just finances and arms them, and provides intelligence. |
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Take that away and Hezbollah goes away like dust in the desert winds.
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Mon Jul-17-06 05:25 PM
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21. No the neocons are having wet dreams.... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 05:26 PM by liberaliraqvet26
they are going to use this incident as a springboard into Iran. They wouldnt be satisfied if Hesbollah, Iran & Syria all waved white flags in the morning.
Just my opinion.
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Mon Jul-17-06 07:48 PM
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23. No. I don't believe it will ever really be over out there. nt |
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Mon Jul-17-06 08:10 PM
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24. It would be over for now |
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until the next problem arises. Like Gaza.
But certainly Lebanon occupying Lebanon would be a good thing.
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