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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:46 PM
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Retired U.S. Air Force officer: Time to Get Out (immediate withdrawal)

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13906475/site/newsweek/

Time to Get Out

A retired U.S. Air Force officer and former Middle East planner for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff argues that the only sensible course in Iraq is an immediate withdrawal of most U.S. forces


By Col. Mike Turner
Special to Newsweek


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Myth #1: U.S. forces will be withdrawn when military commanders determine the Iraqis are capable of maintaining their own security. This is utter nonsense, and I would be willing to bet a substantial sum that every military planner in the Pentagon knows it. Karl Rove will determine the timing of any pullout. The Republican Party is terrified of Iraq, and Rove, as the architect of the 2008 GOP presidential campaign strategy, will time the withdrawal of U.S. forces precisely to coincide with that election. That means U.S. forces will be reduced to an "acceptable threshold" sometime during the spring or summer of 2008. The key for Rove will be to draw down U.S. troop levels to a size that's small enough to plausibly say the U.S. is getting out, while still large enough to maintain some semblance of control over Iraq. Put more succinctly, the war is now being fought to try to ensure a Republican victory in November of 2008. While this seems both obscene and outrageous, one need only watch the drawdown schedule evolve. My bet is that the critical threshold will be 20-50,000 troops in country by the summer of 2008.

Myth #2: There are now 260,000 trained Iraqi troops. In 1997, I worked for the State Department on the development of a pan-African force of five battalions trained to sustain peacekeeping operations throughout sub-Saharan Africa. In coordination with the commander of the 5th Special Forces Group, we developed a five-year initial training schedule, which we felt was sufficient to adequately train and maintain a force of about 3,000 African troops for light peacekeeping operations. That's five years to train 3,000 troops for basic duties. Compare this, then, to the Bush administration's continuing claim that we have now "trained" 260,000 Iraqi troops for what will inevitably be brutal, sustained and autonomous urban combat operations. A few weeks ago Gen. Peter Pace, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, provided the real answer. He was asked, pointedly, by a member of Congress, not how many Iraqi forces had been "trained" but how many were capable of sustained, independent operations throughout Iraq today. His answer? None. And it's been three years. Pay attention, America. If the president is serious about leaving U.S. troops in Iraq until they are capable of maintaining their own security, our grandchildren will be fighting there.

Myth #3: Our only options are "stay the course" or "cut and run." Given the remarkably inept foreign policy initiatives of the neo-conservatives during the past five years, Americans need to demand a more substantive debate surrounding a war that has now cost the lives of over 2,500 servicemen and women. We should seriously consider a rational and immediate drawdown of American troops to a level that is both sustainable and tolerable. Congressman John Murtha, the Pennsylvania Democrat who supported the war and now calls for a U.S. withdrawal, is right—the American presence in Iraq is now doing far more harm than good. With the alleged massacre in Haditha and the alleged atrocities committed by U.S. soldiers, we have now begun to see the first real danger signs of a military occupation force stuck in a war with no clear mission, ineffective civilian leadership, and no way out. We must begin now to dramatically reduce the number of U.S. forces in Iraq. As that drawdown begins, we must develop a strategy to retain a minimal force in country to secure Baghdad's Green Zone and to enable U.S. Special Forces advisors to embed within Iraqi security units for training and monitoring. Finally, we must get this war out of the press and rely heavily on Special Forces counterinsurgency operations supported by external, conventional air forces to undermine the insurgents and support the new Iraqi government. This was precisely the type of operation that ultimately defeated Abu Mussab al Zarqawi, a butcher whose rise to prominence can be traced directly to the ill-conceived U.S. invasion.

There can be no doubt that a likely outcome of an immediate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq might be a complete collapse of that country into chaos. Yet remaining in Iraq and trusting the future conduct of the war to an administration that badly bungled this operation from the beginning and has no coherent plan for remaining is irresponsible. I believe there is a way to mount an effective war in Iraq that greatly reduces the risk to U.S. forces and U.S. national security while retaining a reasonable possibility for a measure of success. However, I do not think that the present administration is capable of either acknowledging its failures or rethinking its strategy to the extent necessary to achieve such a limited victory. For that reason, I'm left with a simple solution—let's save as many U.S. lives as possible and get out now.



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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:57 PM
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1. Somebody, please listen Colonel Turner and Rep. Murtha
Please, please, please you have had your share of pork, you have gobbled the pie, the only
thing left is the plate, please start considering something else besides the greed of your
corporate buddies, donors, lobbyists.
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JAYJDF Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 05:06 PM
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2. We will only get out when no one will enlist
I am starting to become hardened to the fact that my fellow military personnel are still dieing because of an illegal war (and I use the term war loosely). When are the warm bodies going to stop signing up? This war could not support a draft. I know a big carrot is being shakened in front of the latest bunch of recruits, but they should be able to figure out why the big offer.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 06:27 PM
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3. welcome to DU!
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:33 AM
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9. There is/might as well be a draft already
I work in one of America's poorest zip codes, toiling away in the South South Bronx, and at my little college there are a never ending supply of Recruiters (on the public sidewalk outside the school) and a never ending supply of really really poor Latino and African American kids lining up to join. It doesn't matter what horror stories they hear. It doesn't even matter that their classmates return from Iraq and paint hideous, bleak pictures of how fucked up the place *really* is. None of that matters because these people are poor. They are poor in a ways that I don't think many people who are typing on a computer appreciate (unless you're reading this in your local public library). To a lot of people in the South Bronx, the military is an escape route. Sports didn't work. High school let you down. There's always the military. They might as well be drafted, it's not like there's any real choice. Choice is something that belongs to rich people.

And then once you're in, try getting out. Back Door Draft. Stop loss. Ready Reserve. Once they've got you, they've got you. And that GI Bill? Well, you're not getting all the money unless you enlisted for 8 years. It's a screwing, but you're kidding yourself if you think there isn't a draft.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:12 PM
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4. kick for ***** sakes
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:17 PM
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5. I hope every week brings more and more of this type of article nt
Kick
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:30 PM
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6. This remark needs to be played over and over...!!!
The Republican Party is terrified of Iraq, and Rove, as the architect of the 2008 GOP presidential campaign strategy, will time the withdrawal of U.S. forces precisely to coincide with that election. That means U.S. forces will be reduced to an "acceptable threshold" sometime during the spring or summer of 2008. The key for Rove will be to draw down U.S. troop levels to a size that's small enough to plausibly say the U.S. is getting out, while still large enough to maintain some semblance of control over Iraq. Put more succinctly, the war is now being fought to try to ensure a Republican victory in November of 2008.

How can anyone not see the insanity in this? American troops will die needlessly!
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:56 PM
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7. click through and rate it a 5 it only has 66 votes!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:54 PM
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8. NSA Gen Odom ret. said same thing awhile back, Aug '05
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 11:05 PM by EVDebs
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 10:12 AM
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10. Yes, Otherwise We Will Be There Forever
One easily wonders at the purposefulness of the bungling, and/or whether we could actually win this war. (I want the most safety for our boys and girls and for the country, so I say, for example, declare victory and leave. They've gotten away with everything else, so why not that little white lie?)

Last September, Professional Michael Schwartz of SUNY Stony Brook had this great analysis:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8793

How about the meaning of "cut and run", by the way?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/07/09/EDGUSJPLRU1.DTL
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 10:38 AM
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11. doubt this will make much difference
maybe after the midterms... but before then?

:kikc:
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 12:57 PM
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12. Kick n/t
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Drewskie Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 01:15 PM
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13. A good read, though it's odd what make web exclusive and what they
actually print in their magazine. Still, a damn fine read.
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