Kerry on CNN saying he agrees with Hillary and Gore

[tgnyc]

just now. Full interview later in the 4-5pm EST hour.

Unity of opinion and WILLINGNESS TO EXPRESS IT among the Democratic leaders? Is this the 7th Sign of the Apocalypse?!

[DeepModem Mom]

1. That was a cathartic moment! No equivocation, short answers --

he was on board with both of them. It was quite dramatic the way Wolf played his answers, and Wolf started the "Situation Room" with this.

[barb162]

106. That sounds great.!!

[babylonsister]

2. WOW! The first DEM voice I've heard to agree! Rec'd! nt

[seabeyond]

4. it has just been 24 hours. give them a break. and cool for kerry

you realize all those that attack hillary on this board. and all that will now commence to attack kerry. yet still, here kerry is once again, speaking out

[babylonsister]

7. That certainly wasn't a criticism. I find it ironic, though, that

Kerry is in Israel and can speak out while other Dems have been solidly silent.

[Bandit]

11. How do you know they are not speaking out

Just because the MSM doesn't air Democrat's concerns doesn't mean they don't express them...

[rodeodance]

15. I have tried to find Dem comments buried in newspaper but can not find

them. they are curiously silent on this issue.

[rodeodance]

18. cnn yesterday had only Dem strategists on -no elected officials as far

as I know (msnbc did little coverage except for tweety).

[rodeodance]

19. also see this thread where I asked if Dems were speaking out earlier.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x161873

[rodeodance]

20. BTW--Nadler, Rep. Dem is NOW on Abrams report talking about Indep.

Counsel--

[babylonsister]

17. I spend enough time on DU to at least read if someone has

made a comment that's been reported in print. IT'd be here, and it's not...yet. I still have faith though.

[rodeodance]

22. I agree, but damn WHY not speak out NOW--while the issue is hot.

[txindy]

53. True, that. Papers around here would have us believe Gore never spoke.

Not a word about his speech yesterday. :grr:

[blm]

87. That's how they kept Kerry and Dem issues out of the news in 2004.

Ignoring Dems is as bad as spinning a story against them. People get mad when they think Dems aren't speaking up, either.

[txindy]

97. Oh, believe me, I know.

Folks here were ready to hold an intervention in 11/04 because they thought I'd lost it over the election. Their position: "Stolen? It wasn't stolen! No one has even mentioned such a thing except you!" My response: Lots and lots and lots of links and international news reports. Their reaction: "Well, daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!"

:evilgrin:

They are now fully up to speed and are even sending ME additional links/news!

:toast:

[Kahuna]

102. True that. I often have to make that point myself. Unless you are with

a person 24/7 you couldn't possibly know what they haven't said. :thumbsup:

[seabeyond]

16. i will give the other dems the time to figure out what to say, how and

when. i was disappointed with feinstein. to this point she is hte only one i am. but then i just got the pieces on this board people had issue with so i have to remember i didnt hear all she said. and people certainly have agenda on this board

but cool from kerry, and especially from isreal. that is great

[AuntiBush]

21. Pelosi Was on Twice Last Night - C-SPAN

Talking about the Corruption of the GOP, and other issues.

Let's see. Caught Dean's aide, Tom Mc? (sorry Tom) on MSNBC - watched til I could stomch no longer Tweety.

[babylonsister]

26. Wasn't the Pelosi appearance from last weekend? nt

[rodeodance]

29. yes, and it was where she said she would not sign on with Conyers (I).

[AuntiBush]

96. Yes. But I found it Interesting C-SPAN Showed it Twice Last Night

both following Gore's speech.

[endarkenment]

8. It ain't the speaking out part.

It is the content of what she says A LOT OF THE TIME, that drives me nuts. When she says things I agree with, she has my support. When she says things that I think are stupid or wrong, she gets my criticism.

[seabeyond]

12. i am all for that endarkenment. but that isnt what others are doing

they dismiss when our people are speaking out doing good. comments like to little to late, is bullshit. i am not a fan of hillary, but i dont hear a lot of things she says either. was good to hear her say what she did and so forcefully and NOT playing with words. that gets a pat on the back. i dont care if i like her or not, want her for pres or not. that gets a pat. too many people are throwing a hissy, regardless. as they will on this board with kerry speaking out. watch and see

[rodeodance]

13. I think the Dems (Pelosi and Reid) should have had press conferences

immediately following Gores speech to announce their support.

[MH1]

32. Gores' speech wasn't even mentioned on the DNC website.

(yesterday? Nope, still not there)

Just sayin'.

[Seabiscuit]

107. I don't want Hillary or Kerry to run for President in '08, but I'm happy

that each of them has made their recent pronouncments. It helps everyone. When they say/do good things I give them a pass and applause much as I've disliked a lot the things they've said or done in the past. Unfortunately, with both of them, you get a mixed bag.

[blm]

3. He interviewed Kerry from Israel?

.

[tgnyc]

5. Yeah. The time delay was a bit annoying, but yeah, it was by satellite.

[rodeodance]

6. SWEET

[rodeodance]

9. and sweet again.

[Loonman]

10. Politicians caring for more than their tax fattened asses???

Zounds!

[politicasista]

31. wrong post

delete

[BelgianMadCow]

14. Gore - Clinton - Kerry K&R for more!

I go for a good Dean with some Reid and a Feingold as a cherry on top tomorrow.

Throw in some Carter and Kennedy for wisdom,
sneak in some Boxer and Conyers

Hell yes!

edit : K&R

[rodeodance]

25. te he. you lightened my mood. thanks.

[sendero]

92. Now there's a recipe..

.... for some kick-republican-ass stew!

[lavenderdiva]

23. the interview is starting now....

n/t

[thereismore]

24. Just another sore loser. First Gore, now Kerry.

The only reason they attack our beloved War Resident is that they both lost elections to him! :sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

28. "kerry opens fire'--now on Cnn and wolfie--talking of strike on pak.

[rockymountaindem]

27. Unity of message, indeed

Great to hear.

[DoYouEverWonder]

30. Christ, who needs freepers

when we just continue to eat our own.

There is a time and place for criticism. And there is a time and place for support. When someone does the right thing, then we should support them. Quit the bitching.

[rodeodance]

36. BINGO

[rodeodance]

33. kick and nom.

[rodeodance]

35. now that Kerry has publically supported Gore comments, lets hope more

will do so.

[politicasista]

34. The more the merrier

Gore, Hillary, Kerry: :yourock:

[rodeodance]

37. yes, rock on-Gore, Hil, and Kerry--bring em' aboard.

[rodeodance]

39. Blitz just promised more on Gore and Hil (from Kerry)--after the break.

[MadJohnShaft]

38. Need to keep it up, new message of support every day

[rodeodance]

40. kicky kicky kicky

[rodeodance]

41. someone help me kick please as i have slowwwww dial up and Kerry is

coming back.

[rodeodance]

42. "3 powerful Dems and their attach on the Bush Adm" says Wolf. whow.

[rodeodance]

43. Kerry says YES< definately-'breaking the law" agrees with Gore.

[rodeodance]

45. Kerry says he hopes Adm will admit mistakes and 'reverse course" dah

that will the day. They sent Gonzalas out last night to refute Gore.

[rodeodance]

47. He also agrees with Hil--most deralic adm.--health care, educ, enviroment.

[rodeodance]

49. he also told Wolf that he was throwing things at him while he is abroad bu

t then answered Wolfs questions anyway.

[karynnj]

58. The do you agree with Hillary about Bush being one of worst

was a little strange as Kerry spent most of 2004 listing the failures. I wonder why wolfe didn't play the "plantation " quote which is more iffy. Good answer on Gore.

[IndyOp]

50. As George Bailey would say: Hee-haw!!

Good boy, John! Good boy!

:kick:

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

48. Glad to oblige.

Keep us posted, please :-)

[DanCa]

44. Yes and he's giving them examples as to how they broke it.

[tgnyc]

46. Kerry: I hope the hearings will be real, with real subpeonas

[rodeodance]

52. Kerry was knowledgable and artulate as usual (if only... but i dream0.

[KoKo]

51. I watched it ALL...Kerry was Fantastic...And the Three standing TOGETHER

It was music for our souls!!!

[rodeodance]

56. and SWEET to listen to. Thanks Wolf (I will give him credit when due).

[rodeodance]

57. wolf asks if this is a coordinated Dem attach?--silly boy.

[rodeodance]

59. Repug strategist is now saying if these are the frontrummrs, then we

are happy. dah.

[rodeodance]

60. Bagala is saying he is happy to see the Dems get some backbone.

[rodeodance]

62. Wolf is trying to make an issue of Hils plantation comment-even the Rep

ug woman is saying it was perfectly fine to say--esp. in a Black church.

[rodeodance]

63. Wolf put his foot in his mouth on this one. te he.

[rodeodance]

64. In addition, Newt said that the Dems were running the House like a planta-

tion in 1994.

[Carla in Ca]

93. AND, it would be nice if they ran the next 5 seconds

when she explains it:

"It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard," she added to thunderous applause.

[rodeodance]

104. yes, would be nice.

[Adelante]

54. Kerry did good

:thumbsup:

[DanCa]

55. Kerry, "this administration among the most derlict and irresponsible."

Go team Go Team.

[rodeodance]

67. and HISTORY will not be kind to jr (paraphasing)

[txindy]

61. Al Gore one day and John Kerry the next

I should just unplug my TV now because it doesn't get any better than this. Well, wait, it could. Someone give me a heads-up if Clark and Dean are coming up, would you, please? That would top off this week perfectly. And it's only Tuesday!

[rodeodance]

65. yes, good hour--does not get much better. Dems have a backbone (some)

[rodeodance]

66. Gore just issued a statement--something about all the criticism he has

been getting. will have to look for it.

[BelgianMadCow]

70. maybe this is what you have in mind :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x166164

GORE: "The Administration's response to my speech illustrates perfectly the need for a special counsel to review the legality of the NSA wiretapping program.

The Attorney General is making a political defense of the President without even addressing the substantive legal questions that have so troubled millions of Americans in both political parties. There are two problems with the Attorney General's effort to focus attention on the past instead of the present Administration's behavior. First, as others have thoroughly documented, his charges are factually wrong. Both before and after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was amended in 1995, the Clinton/Gore Administration complied fully and completely with the terms of the law.

Second, the Attorney General's attempt to cite a previous administration's activity as precedent for theirs - even though factually wrong - ironically demonstrates another reason why we must be so vigilant about their brazen disregard for the law. If unchecked, their behavior would serve as a precedent to encourage future presidents to claim these same powers, which many legal experts in both parties believe are clearly illegal.

The issue, simply put, is that for more than four years, the executive branch has been wiretapping many thousands of American citizens without warrants in direct contradiction of American law. It is clearly wrong and disrespectful to the American people to allow a close political associate of the president to be in charge of reviewing serious charges against him. The country needs a full and independent investigation into the facts and legality of the present Administration's program."

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Gore_responds_to_White_Ho...

[rodeodance]

77. yes, thanks that is it--i am glad Gore did not let this slide .

[DanCa]

69. "And it's only Tuesday"

I love that how many more good and courages Dems will step foreward. The revolution has begun.

[babylonsister]

72. txindy, you're going to like this!

Dean IS up to bat tomorrow!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/15/161320/911

On Capitol Hill, Reid and Pelosi will detail legislation calling for a ban on Congress members' acceptance of trips from corporate lobbyists and for a clamp-down on lobbyist gifts, including meals and entertainment.In Ohio, Dean will deliver his address outside the office of Gov. Robert A. Taft, a Republican who is under fire for accepting golf outings and who is at the center of a scandal over $10 million in missing workers' compensation funds that had been invested in rare coins.


And there is a little more:

The Times got some excerpts of Dean's Wednesday speech: In his Columbus speech Wednesday, Dean plans to say that "the Abramoff scandal is the tip of the iceberg," according to excerpts from his address provided to The Times.

Dean will argue that the Abramoff scandal is a specifically Republican embarrassment, kicking back at GOP assertions that Democrats share culpability. He will catalog ethical questions facing Republicans including Rove and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, who is under scrutiny for possible insider stock trades.

"The Republican culture of corruption must come to an end," he plans to tell his audience, a theme to be echoed by Pelosi and Reed in Washington and by leading Democrats in Minnesota, Montana, Utah and other states.

[blm]

73. That will be EXCELLENT followup. Gore, Kerry then Dean.

.

[txindy]

78. I've waited for events and actions like these for years.

Gore, Kerry, and now Dean - all in three days?! Not only that, but Dean is going to go after the Abramoff scandal and the repub culture of corruption... Somebody pinch me. Better, yet, somebody tell me when Wes Clark is up to bat because I'm beginning to think the proverbial snowball is finally heading downhill and gathering speed.

[ginnyinWI]

100. Kerry again later in the week

That's what Wolf said.

[txindy]

101. Dean tomorrow and Kerry later in the week? I'll leave the TV plugged in

;) This is too good to miss. I guess it really does get better and better. Must See TV!

[emulatorloo]

68. kick n/t

[politicasista]

71. kick and recommend!

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[nofoil]

74. I wouldn't read too much into it

The guy folded the day after the election, for God's sake. I don't really care what he has to say anymore, and that's coming from someone who almost got run over while holding up an election sign for him one cold evening.

[nofoil]

75. That said...

I'm glad everyone is speaking out. It's exciting. But if he hadn't folded, this whole thing would be a moot point. Sigh.

[blm]

79. If you have the evidence needed to contest - give it to him. He didn't

receive any from anybody else.

The evidence he DID have was only good enough for the two court cases he is still involved with in Ohio, that haven't gone to court yet - thanks to GOP judges slowwalking the cases.

[nofoil]

82. Yes, he did receive the evidence

I know this for a fact, from personal experience. And there was a press conference BEFORE the election showing exactly how easy it is to hack the election machines. While he was folding, elections were being actively contested in New Mexico and Ohio. Yes, the evidence was there. He just didn't want to hear about it. And he folded. And our nation, and thus the world, is now still being controlled by a team of raving fascists.

I suggest you check out http://www.votetrustusa.org for information on what's going on now.

[blm]

83. the machines needed securing BEFORE the vote because after is too late,

and the DNC did not believe in machine fraud so they didn't secure the machines.

The DNC is only just now even bringing up securing the vote machines - perhaps because they are learning more about it.

Kerry won his matchups with Bush. The DNC failed its matchup with the RNC. The left media had their asses handed to them on a daily basis by a RW message machine that always stayed focused.

[nofoil]

84. I need to add... If he had waited

He would have had an even stronger pile of evidence about the rampant vote fraud that happended this time around, which concerns not only the machines but the physical barring of voters from the polls. A year later, the world is melting from global warming, the system of checks and balances is melting from Bush's sour breath, and the thumbscrews of torture are being tightened by our "vice president" himself. This was not worth waiting more than a day to avoid? For God's sake. Even his own campaign people were torn to pieces over this.

[sendero]

94. I agree that Kerry made a mistake..

.... but I'm not going to hold it against him forever. If he will come out and join the DEM noise machine and speak the truth about what is happening, well I can respect that.

[nofoil]

98. Fine to respect him

But just don't trust him.

[txindy]

80. Just a guess, but if we win back the House or Senate in November

You may get your wish (and mine) for an investigation into the stolen election(s). There was no chance with a repub-controlled Congress. We need either the House or the Senate, THEN we look into irregularities. I believe John Conyers is ready to get into that on a moment's notice. :toast:

[glitch]

76. Excellent!!

Gonna tear up again!

[carolinalady]

81. I saw the interview and I was glad he supported Gore.

Like he said, the only recourse we have is to take it to the public again and again and again.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

85. That's My President!!!!!!!

[no_more_rhyming]

86. Gore / Kerry 2008

Kerry / Cliton 2008 it's getting confusing. How about Dean / Clark

[txindy]

88. In another thread you said Kerry and Gore both let elections slip away

How many people use your username? They all seem to change tunes from thread to thread. I'm getting whiplash.

Or did I misinterpret this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=166286&mesg_id=166959

[sendero]

89. Go John......

.... say what has to be said!

[ProSense]

90. Excellent! Momentum is with the Democrats. Naysayers step aside. n/t

[rodeodance]

91. Wolf said will repeart Kerry interview at 7pm ET

[rodeodance]

95. KICKYPOO

[rodeodance]

99. lots of good clips also in this show-to be repeated at 7 pm ET

[McCamy Taylor]

103. It's a start.

[rodeodance]

105. Gore gave the Dems a jumpstart---then Hil, then Kerry kicked in. whow!!

[Imagevision]

108. More Dems need to start using their mouths to sound off...!

[kerrygoddess]

109. Video and Transcript here

Kerry Opens Fire on CNN tonight... backs up Gore and Hillary and more -
Video and transcript - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1680

[wisteria]

110. Wonderful!! Kerry was great and this is what we need team work!

We need to back each other up instead of attacking each other. Strength in numbers.!!!

Gore, Kerry and Hillary- three patriots- speaking up about this terrible administration.

[Nordmadr]

111. Good for Kerry. I like him alot. I like Gore alot more. All of these

Presidential contenders must realize, at least in my mind, that they are second string to Gore. He's the starter. Dan Marino in the 4th quarter in the prime of his career. Gore is ready for his Superbowl. Dean is close, but doesn't have the statesmanship, and as far as I can tell, has no plans to run for 2008. Gore is the trodden upon hero making his return to the fight.

He is Rocky.

He is William Wallace.

Kerry, Clinton, Feingold, Clark, Edwards, Biden, etc. are all the back-ups. I think they all know if he runs, they lose. Period. So for the most part, they don't want to toot his horn too much out of purely selfish ambition involved reasons.

That Kerry speaks up in support, and does so relatively quickly, I think speaks to the integrity of the man...but he didn't think of it first, or have the courage to "Kerry" it out if he did contemplate it. It is always easier to be the second to stand up for what is right.

Gore may be speaking up because he has nothing to lose. He may be speaking up because he has no plans to run. I think he is speaking up because he is a passionate leader with a desparate desire to help this nation and that he wants to be President.

Olafr

[Tracer]

112. You missed his wishy-washy response to ...

... Wolfie's question regarding the bombing of the Pakistan village.

Kerry, in his usual way - taking 3 minutes of obfuscatory verbiage - said he'd do the same thing.

The guy make me tired - and he's my senator.

[blm]

115. He said IF all procedures were followed PROPERLY - exactly what ANY real

lawmaker would say.

You think Kucinich would say he was against a bombing that properly followed procedure and targetted Al Qaeda?

Kerry HAD to make the distiinction because Wolf did not and worded it to trap him.

[gordontron]

113. I saw it, it was great nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

114. It's about time!

Good for Kerry! Now, where are the rest of our Dems????