100-0 is the Senate vote (but which bill?).

[rodeodance]

[burythehatchet]

1. Probably Rick SanScrotum's groundbreaking

legislation stating that it is forbidden to have embryo harvesting farms.

[DanCa]

2. I dont know

I can't watch it I got too much personally invested in this. The results are too nerve racking.

[helderheid]

3. HR 2754 is what is on the screen

[napi21]

5. It also says it requires NIH to use anything for SS research except

embryos. I think that's HR 810, although my csan screen says HR2754 too. I think it's a cspan error. I looked up 2754 and it's about water and the environment.

[tkadmin]

25. It also says it requires NIH to use anything for SS research except embryos

Now here is something we can work on.  The gov won't give any
money, but I hear that some companies are trying to raise some
money to do it anyway.  
Trust me,  you don't want the government involved with this. 
Can you imagine the restrictions the gov could put on anybody
that takes tax money for this?

Anybody know if there is a website or something doin' this? 

[Up2Late]

4. Here it is! (I think)

Big suprise!

<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.02754:>
H.R.2754
Title: Making appropriations for energy and water development for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2004, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Hobson, David L. (introduced 7/16/2003) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.RES.444, H.R.529, S.1424
Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 108-137
House Reports: 108-212; Latest Conference Report: 108-357 (in Congressional Record H11010-11118) :sarcasm:

[DanCa]

6. LOL.

Thanks for the laugh I needed it. Is it wrong to be sweating bullets over this?

[napi21]

8. So now cspan corrects their error. HR810 vote is coming up!

Hmmm, lack of communication there too I guess!

[Up2Late]

9. Yeah, that was weird, putting up the number of a 2 year old...

...bill about flood control.

Here's the real one: <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00810:>

[sinkingfeeling]

7. S 3504 just passed 100-0. They're voting on Santorum's now.

Edited: S 2754 also passed 100-0....ugh! I don't like that.

It is the purpose of this Act to--

(1) intensify research that may result in improved understanding of or treatments for diseases and other adverse health conditions; and

(2) promote the derivation of pluripotent stem cell lines, including from postnatal sources, without creating human embryos for research purposes or discarding, destroying, or knowingly harming a human embryo or fetus.

[Up2Late]

10. If he tries to Veto these, he will also get his first Veto overridden...

...by the Congress too.

Another bad choice by the Chimp. :evilgrin:

[DanCa]

11. can you give me an update please.

I am on pins and needles here. Thank You.

[Idioteque]

12. HR 810, the real embryonic stem cell research bill passes 63 to 37

Not a veto proof majority.

[rox63]

14. I thought veto overrides

only took 60 votes? Or is it 67?

[DanCa]

16. I thought it was sixty too . I am confused now. (nt)

[napi21]

17. They need 67 for override.

Though the Senate is expected to garner at least 60 votes to pass the legislation, it is not clear whether the Senate will obtain at least 67 votes to override a presidential veto. The House of Representatives passed the measure last May , but fell short of the two-thirds majority needed to override a veto. Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) has sought broad Senate support of the bill, while Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) facilitated a vote on the bill after a year of inaction.


http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2006/07/senate-to-vote-on-stem-cell-research.php

[DanCa]

18. Thank you for the information. So damn close you know.

Did Liebermen vote against the bill?

[DanCa]

15. Before the Chimp vetos this bill

I want him to a sit in my wheel chair for one day and visit a stem cell lab. Is that too much too ask?

[Up2Late]

19. I bet they'll pick up a few more votes after the November e-lection.

I think they could still do the re-vote durring (sorry, no offence intended, but this is what they call it) the lame duck session.

I doubt it would be that difficult, getting 4 more votes from Senators to switch their votes, when they just lost an election.

[sinkingfeeling]

13. HR 810 was passed 63-37. Not enough for an over-ride of a veto.

This is the one that 'counted' and the one Chimp promised to veto.

[liberalitch]

20. If Allen and Warner vote Nay..... than I hope it works to defeat them..

this fall..... I hope they're both gone anyways....

[Idioteque]

21. John Warner is pro choice....he voted for the bill. Allen voted no. n/t

[liberalitch]

23. Warner..... I can tolerate.....

Allen is a sycophant.

[alarimer]

22. They need to make this a campaign issue

"bush wants people who suffer from diabetes, MS and Parkinson's to die instead of being able to use treatments that may become available from stem cell research. He puts the "lives" of a few cells ahead of the lives of millions of Americans who live with these diseases every day. Bush is NOT pro-life, he is pro-disease". Etc.

[liberalitch]

24. His rich friends can afford medical treatment in more....

evolved nations.....
What does he care if disease takes huge swaths of the under $500K per yer crowd here?

Odd from a man whose sister died of a disease that may one day be CURED because of stem cell research.