If Embryos needed to be evacuated from the Middle East

[DanCa]

Would they have to pay for being rescued from the horrors of stem cell research?
:sarcasm:

[smokey nj]

1. "Christian Commandos" would parachute in and save them........

Actually, maybe every American should carry a cooler stocked with frozen embryos to increase the chances of being helped by BushCo.

[xultar]

3. Well they sure don't care about the embryos that grow up do they?

That's pretty fucking evident.

[smokey nj]

4. As soon as you pass through the birth canal and take your......

first breath, you're on your own.

[xultar]

7. Giner cooties I suspect.

[MountainLaurel]

27. Mwaaahaaa!

"giner cooties"

I'd be :rofl: if that weren't probably so close to the truth.

[jean]

15. Remind the Christian Commandoh's ... Lebanon has a huge Christian

population, real people, not embryos.

[smokey nj]

19. I wish they were as concerned about real people as they are

about "potential" life.

[Joanne98]

46. OMG! They have frozen embyros too. Here's the Beirut website....

OMG! Do the Xistians know the embryos are in danger...

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[Quakerfriend]

2. OMG! Thx for the laugh guys!

[madeline_con]

5. Let's get this straight....

these people can afford to go to Lebanon. They can afford to go to college or stay drunk in the local nightclubs, whatever situation took them over. But when the shit hits the fan, they're all suddenly too broike to get the hell out?

Why should tax money pay for their rescue? they got their on their own, of their own free will. They should pay for transport out.

[xultar]

8. What the fuck...it has nothing to do with MONEY...there's no fuckin flight

to book. THE AIRPORT HAS BEEN FUCKIN DESTROYED!!!!!

there's no roads out.

Israel is bombing all the roads out.

Israel has a blockade on the sea. THERE ARE NO CRUISE SHIPS THAT CAN JUST MOZY THE FUCK IN.

What are you talking about...MONEY!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Can someone explain what they are trying to say to me just in case I misread?

[madeline_con]

9. Do you think the rescuers intend to WALK them out?

There will be transportation made available that should be paid for.

How do you suppose all these Americans intended to leave when they got ready? Take up a collection?

[xultar]

11. OK I must have stumbled onto a parallel universe that looks just like

reality but they only speak nonsense.

[madeline_con]

14. What makes you think all the Americans who need to get out are

dirt poor and couldn't have bought plane tickets had the airport not been bombed?

You seem to be thinking their money was blown away as well.

[Canuckistanian]

52. Just provide them all with these

[elehhhhna]

54. They'll be flown first clas on the US Warplane "Sitting Duck"

I'd prefer to frikin walk out, personally. More safer, as the freeps would say.

[DanCa]

12. For some people...

Where money lies honor dies. It's the Katrina response all over again.

[xultar]

13. True. But what does this have to do with why US citizens should pick

up the bill for their rescue?

[DanCa]

16. I don't know.

I think that I am on your side with this arguement. If Bush is the great Christian that he is he would have no problems with helping out human beings who are stranded in a war zone.

[xultar]

22. Christians and US Citizens but anyone else. Why would Israel bomb

an empty city? They need the Lebonese to stay to teach them a lesson on not backing terrorists.

[ComerPerro]

51. Just like with Illegal Immigration and Health Care,

this WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN ISSUE if Bush and the Republicans hadn't sent us spiraling into deep debt.

[madeline_con]

18. No, it's not Katrina. The Americans in Lebanon are not

poor welfare recipients who can't afford to leave. They're well off enough to go there for college or to party in the clubs. They can afford to pay to get out.

How were they originally planning on leaving? Buying plane tickest out. Now, the only difference is who they're paying.

[DanCa]

24. ROFLMAO

Was this on Rush, Hannity or Oreilly? Class doesn't matter they are Americans. Were supoosed to help each other.

[xultar]

26. I don't know what Stargate they went through to come up with those posts.

[DanCa]

31. It's the coulter geist

she's possesing them. *waves some garlic* Get spook! Get spook!

[xultar]

33. ...running to kitchen...

[Don Claybrook]

37. the only difference?

wrong.

Most had no doubt already paid for their return tickets. Moreover, the promissory notes don't specify an amount to be repaid, only a term of 90 days. If you can't see any differences, you're not looking very carefully.

More importantly, we allowed this to happen to a nation that we knew to contain lots of US citizens. It's incumbent upon us to safely evacuate our citizens when we allow our proxy to prosecute this attack against its neighbor which is hosting so many Americans.

Why do you want to compound suffering in a place that's already suffering? I don't understand this, and I believe Xultar was kind with his/her alternate universe comments. Please don't be hateful toward people who just want to go home.

[xultar]

40. Don't bother. Apparently those who can afford to travel to LEbanon are

low-life slackers who deserve to get blowed-the-fuck-up if they don't find their own way out when there is
no airport
a sea blockade
no safe roads
during a fuckin war.

[The Wielding Truth]

17. Why should we fly Osoma's family to safety after 9/11? I see more logic

in bringing home our own and making sure they are safe.That is the one reason for a federal government. Maybe if this same concern was paid to the dying stranded in the wake of Katrina you might not be so resistant to spending fed funds to save these people. I thought that if we had better foreign intelligence, travelers could have been warned about the danger of this flareup happening, and there would be less vacationers in harms way.

Sorry, I'm rambling a bit, but I get so frustrated about the sloppy why the Republicans are running this country.

[xultar]

25. CA-FCUKIN-CHING! DAYUM STRAIGHT!

[madeline_con]

32. Look, they're being asked to sign a promissory note....

They don't have a "pay or you stay" policy here. If they can afford to travel all over the world, they can certainly afford to come home.

I'm not esistant to spending the funds, I just think the funds should be reimbursed.

[xultar]

36. OK. We'll make them pay because Bush told Israel to bomb Lebanon

for a certain time period to do as much damage to the terrorists as they can before international pressure gets to great.

We're gonna make them pay for Bush's fucked up ignorant ass dumb fucking foreign policy.

OK.

Maybe I need to find a stargate.

[The Wielding Truth]

53. Think of it this way, If they were to be swept up in an upcoming tsumi

would you be so worried about reimbursement? And so... you think we will be reimbursed for the billions we are spending to supposedly deliver Iraqi's to safety and freedom. Let's get our citizens home from all war zones. We will save all kinds of money!

[ninkasi]

60. We don't know how many had already bought tickets out...

We also don't know whether they can afford to "travel all over the world." Some might be paying a visit to the land their families came from, and not on some world travel junket. Some may have gotten round trip tickets which are no good with the airports being destroyed.

Why prejudge people who are in harm's way? Wouldn't the decent thing to do be to bring our fellow citizens home? We can damn well spend billions paying Halliburton's inflated bills, let's take care of our own, as well. I'm not going to prejudge my fellow citizens and decide, with no facts to back me up, that they are all wealthy world travelers, who are trying to gouge the taxpayers for leaving a war-zone.

[KAZ]

35. I guess it's true. Nothing good comes out of Florida. n/a

n/a

[malaise]

6. Will pregnant women have to pay two fares?

:D

[xultar]

10. If the embryo weighs over 30 lbs it can't go. They can only take 30lbs

of stuff.

[DanCa]

20. Hmm but you know there would probably be a special fare

Hmm if airlines gives kid under the age of 12 half off would that mean the embryo would fly for a third of the price?

[xultar]

29. Nope. If it is over 30lbs the embryo has got to stay in Lebanon.

Those are the rules.

[DanCa]

38. Well they do get two carry ons.

Maybe one carry on would carry the embryo, and the other would carry the sperm?

[xultar]

43. If the sperm is in a 30lb nut sack then no. Did you read the pamphlet?

The Dept of State 'Escape Bush's fucked up foregin policy' pamphlet?

But...Embryo has already been fertilised right?

[DanCa]

47. I am not sure but the real question is who gets first class

The embryo or sperm.

[xultar]

48. Embryo. No way a sperm is getting first class.

[malaise]

23. Good one

:rofl: :rofl:

[stevedeshazer]

21. Man, have you got a great point here.

That's gonna become one of my talking points. Thanks. :)

[Jacobin]

28. They can sign a promissory note in utero

[DanCa]

34. So like if t he plane passes through severe turbelance

and the embryo shoots out of the birth cannal would it be charged as an adult?

[Jacobin]

50. Yes, but I think it should get a youth fare

[B2G]

30. Congress passed the law

That evacuees had to pay their own way. Don't like it, email your Congress person. I did. Until the law is changed there is nothing that can be done about it.

[Joanne98]

39. OOH! Good point!

[PassingFair]

41. Good to see you again, DanCa!

:hi:

I missed you!

[DanCa]

42. Likewise

Sometimes you need to take a break.

[xultar]

44. Thanks for the laugh!

[DanCa]

45. Laughter is all we got laugh

Thanks for posting on this thread. It was a great stress reducer. :D

[xultar]

49. We also have Grey Goose...!

[Pastiche423]

55. Thank you Dan and xultar

for this much needed stress relief thread!

It has been brought to my attention that NO embryos will have to pay for rescue. BUT any live babies pretending to be embryos may be indicted and charged an additional fee.

I am searching for the link now...

Too bad some on this thread did not comprehend the OP's post.

P.S. No Veto!

[Cha]

56. They'd be

right fucking on it. Stem cells? Grab 'em!

[tavalon]

57. Well put, DanCa

I'm so glad you didn't go away when people picked on you way back when. I knew you were destined to be one of our gems and you are singularly qualified to discuss this topic.

[DanCa]

58. Thank You Tavalon

I just got a little over whelmed there fore a while. My medication has been adjusted - hint ann coulter hint- and I had to take some time away from lobbying to gain a little perspective.
I missed you guys.

[tavalon]

59. I had a period where I had to back away from the table too

and I don't have nearly the physical issues you have to deal with. Good to see you again, fighting the good fight. While I know that stem cell research is rightfully one of your pet issues, it fits into the whole "taking care of each other" paradigm that we have here and that the Repugs tend to lack completely. I think the rugged individuality meme they have is just a cover for very bad, selfish behavior.

[SoCalDem]

61. The embryos are THIRSTY.. Give them water.. They need water

[rman]

62. They'd probably argue a tax increase is needed to fund it. nt