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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:20 PM
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Olbermann: NeoCons Want to Invade Iran and Syria
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:22 PM
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1. Thanks, Keith. It's true. They've always been the goal. De-stabilize.
Destabilize anywhere that has oil.

www.newamericancentury.org

Go to letters, and the 1998 Clinton letter. Makes your hair stand up on end.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:24 PM
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2. I'm certainly no expert, but I don't think our military can do much
more than they're doing now. We're already stretched too thin.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:25 PM
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3. No more war
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:27 PM
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4. Absolutely no more war.
But do you think that the neocons care if our military is stretched too thin? Caring about the military, planning ahead, concern for the budget: none of these things matter to them.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:27 PM
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6. They still have lots of bombs
And planes to drop them with.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:29 PM
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7. they might not be able to put boots on the ground...
but they still have the ability to bomb the living daylight out of them by air. I agree with Keith, this is the neo-cons "in". syria and Iran have been targets as long as Iraq has been.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:13 PM
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14. Well, they can get their asses kicked...
Our air power is still largely undaunted, so we could launch all sorts of airstrikes. Of course, then the Iranian and/or Syrian armies would pour across the border into Iraq, at which point we're really fucked. Not even a draft could help, because in the best of cases it would take several months to produce combat troops, and within that time the war would be practically over.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:27 PM
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5. Keith asked if neoCons are going to provide their own troops. How about
Barbara Jr., Jenna and Cheney's daughters going? Send your own troops is right.
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rastafan Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:30 PM
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8. "Second 9/11": Cheney's "Contingency Plan"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060222&articleId=2032

"Second 9/11": Cheney's "Contingency Plan"

While the "threat" of Iran's alleged WMD is slated for debate at the UN Security Council, Vice President Dick Cheney is reported to have instructed USSTRATCOM to draw up a contingency plan "to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States". This "contingency plan" to attack Iran uses the pretext of a "Second 9/11" which has not yet happened, to prepare for a major military operation against Iran.

The contingency plan, which is characterized by a military build up in anticipation of possible aerial strikes against Iran, is in a "state of readiness".

What is diabolical is that the justification to wage war on Iran rests on Iran's involvement in a terrorist attack on America, which has not yet occurred:

The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections. (Philip Giraldi, Attack on Iran: Pre-emptive Nuclear War , The American Conservative, 2 August 2005)

Are we to understand that US military planners are waiting in limbo for a Second 9/11, to launch a military operation directed against Iran, which is currently in a "state of readiness"?

Cheney's proposed "contingency plan" does not focus on preventing a Second 9/11. The Cheney plan is predicated on the presumption that Iran would be behind a Second 9/11 and that punitive bombings would immediately be activated, prior to the conduct of an investigation, much in the same way as the attacks on Afghanistan in October 2001, allegedly in retribution for the role of the Taliban government in support of the 9/11 terrorists. It is worth noting that the bombing and invasion of Afghanistan had been planned well in advance of 9/11. As Michael Keefer points out in an incisive review article:

"At a deeper level, it implies that “9/11-type terrorist attacks” are recognized in Cheney’s office and the Pentagon as appropriate means of legitimizing wars of aggression against any country selected for that treatment by the regime and its corporate propaganda-amplification system.... (Keefer, February 2006 )

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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:32 PM
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11. we certanly don't need another LIHOP--time to put these guys on trial
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:31 PM
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9. We do not have the money, the troops or the leadership. The
generals in the military had better learn a very old phrase fast "Hell no I won't go!"
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:31 PM
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10. up next
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:33 PM
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12. Up now n/t
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rastafan Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:03 PM
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13. "Second 9/11": Cheney's "Contingency Plan"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060222&articleId=2032

"Second 9/11": Cheney's "Contingency Plan"

While the "threat" of Iran's alleged WMD is slated for debate at the UN Security Council, Vice President Dick Cheney is reported to have instructed USSTRATCOM to draw up a contingency plan "to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States". This "contingency plan" to attack Iran uses the pretext of a "Second 9/11" which has not yet happened, to prepare for a major military operation against Iran.

The contingency plan, which is characterized by a military build up in anticipation of possible aerial strikes against Iran, is in a "state of readiness".

What is diabolical is that the justification to wage war on Iran rests on Iran's involvement in a terrorist attack on America, which has not yet occurred:

The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections. (Philip Giraldi, Attack on Iran: Pre-emptive Nuclear War , The American Conservative, 2 August 2005)

Are we to understand that US military planners are waiting in limbo for a Second 9/11, to launch a military operation directed against Iran, which is currently in a "state of readiness"?

Cheney's proposed "contingency plan" does not focus on preventing a Second 9/11. The Cheney plan is predicated on the presumption that Iran would be behind a Second 9/11 and that punitive bombings would immediately be activated, prior to the conduct of an investigation, much in the same way as the attacks on Afghanistan in October 2001, allegedly in retribution for the role of the Taliban government in support of the 9/11 terrorists. It is worth noting that the bombing and invasion of Afghanistan had been planned well in advance of 9/11. As Michael Keefer points out in an incisive review article:

"At a deeper level, it implies that “9/11-type terrorist attacks” are recognized in Cheney’s office and the Pentagon as appropriate means of legitimizing wars of aggression against any country selected for that treatment by the regime and its corporate propaganda-amplification system.... (Keefer, February 2006 )

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