I never realized how much I hate God...

[Bluerthanblue]

..being used to
justify:
mass murder,
the human need to exact revenge,
demonizing other people,
excuse:
abuse, prejudice, genocide
and countless other cruel and selfish human actions.

It is sad how religion has in many ways, become a curse upon the world- and how people attempt to fool themselves into believing they are somehow either given a 'free- pass' for the harm they commit, or attempt to convince others that they have 'god' on their side'-- that 'god' is enabling them to do 'his' will, or favors them above others.

I hate witnessing this- I hate that this is happening.

And having said all this, I need to say, even STILL, I do believe in God- and believe that what is being done in 'his' name, or supposedly with 'his' blessing is even more abhorrent to God, than it is to me-

Those who reject the concept of a spiritual presence existing, who bristle at the mention of 'religion' or 'god' sure have some pretty convincing evidence and shining examples to suggest that what many people are doing as 'representives' of 'a Loving God' actually make a better case for atheism than spirituality.



And that is incredibly sad.

What fools we are- what cruel fools.

may we ALL come to know and live in PEACE-

Together.


blu

[eallen]

1. How else do you think religion started?

[aquart]

4. Actually, not that way.

But it's a long story.

[Ninga]

2. Darlin' don't be "blue"........know you are not along in what you feel.

Perhaps I will meet you on the street some day soon, when the peaope finally wake up and the great peace movement takes to the streets.

Until then, in spirit and understanding.

Peace.

[rubberducky]

3. Don`t think it`s "God" that you hate.

Think it is all the things that are done in "His" name.

[Herman Munster]

5. this is why I'm an agnostic and abhor organized religion

It's caused nothing but misery, hate, bigotry, throughout recorded history. It's used as a crutch by a lot of weak brainwashed people who can't think their way out of a box.

Personally, my pet theory has always been that we were created by "aliens" as in the little green men kind. Earth is probably some fucked up little reality TV show on this alien world....it probably doesn't even break Top 50 in the ratings.

[YOY]

6. You can use any belief system to justify any of those

It doesn't even need to be monotheistic



Hell you can even invent one! Ask Pol Pot!



Even a society with heavily enforced atheism can endorse genocide and other evil acts.



Of course I find Agnosticism kind of hard to abuse in my mind...just not giving a flying flip works so well...

[C_U_L8R]

7. God needs to stand up for himself/herself

and throw a few lightning bolts up the butts of these republican poseurs.

And if god can't.. then we sure can.

[Ecumenist]

8. Exactly...

I do't believe in religion, just means force of habit. One can be religious about brushing one's teeth a certain way, at a certain time. I believe in God and know I am a Christian and as a Christian, I'm admonished to be fair and honourable. I'm not supposed to lust after war and bloodshed and to take care of the underdog and the vulnerable, everything these hypocrites are showing the world and posturing, all the while using God's name and twisting the tenets to conform and justify the murder, mayhem and rape in pursuit of their twisted and thoroughly evil doctrine and philospohy.

[Skittles]

11. I just don't understand that

you are ADMONISHED to be fair and honorable? Religion is not needed to be fair and honorable.

[Bluerthanblue]

14. Thanks for the responses.......I'm not sure that I'd

have used the word admonished, but the example Jesus left for us-
the notion of putting others ahead of our own 'agenda's - that isn't something that comes very ...'naturally' to most people. And so in 'my' view, it did require someone/thing extraordinary-

When someone slaps your face, the instinctual response is to slap back- but what does that really 'gain' us??? - not only does our cheek sting, but our hand does too... and when the blush of anger fades, we are stuck with the reality that we haven't "acted" on our own - controlled by our 'own' version of what is 'fair' or 'honorable'- but rather we have "re-acted" in response to or being controlled by - the aggressor-

It isn't God I hate- It is the way people hide behind the name, or behind the doors of a 'religion'- and act any way they want, saying "God says"- when it is their own voices speaking.

Jesus, Gandhi, Mlkjr- and many other lesser mentioned people have lived lives that went against the 'norm'- They didn't face life with the same 'predictible' instinctual human reactions- That (to me) is evidence enough of the existance of a power beyond 'human-nature'- a dimension that isn't easily seen or proven, but that exists none the less.


peace,
blu

[Ecumenist]

16. Admonished may have been the wrong word...

I'm coming up on hour 44 without sleep. It is probably better to say that it is part of the commandments part of the core of Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Heck, it's a basic tenet of Buddhism and Hinduism as well. :hangover: I despise coffee but hey, it's the only smilie that comes near my state of mind and body right about now.

[Bluerthanblue]

18. hey, thats ok-

I have a difficult time picking words even after a full nite of medicated sleep-

I got what you meant, and I agree-
thanks,
hope you get some sleep-

blu

[DanCa]

9. I do not hate god I hate the fundies and what they turned him into..

Just like I hate what the Republican fundies have turned America into

[drhilarius]

10. God always seems to hate the same things man hates...

who's made in whose image?

[Initech]

12. I dont hate God, I hate His fanatical, brain-dead right-wing followers

[bdamomma]

13. this is not what God is doing

this is what Satan and bush crime family is doing.

it is disgusting what is happening all this death for what.

[Bluerthanblue]

15. I agree, it isn't 'God' that is doing this-

it is human'kind'-

and were trying to pin it on 'God'- as if, in the end, 'God' can be 'fooled'-
That would make God pretty ignorant and disconnected-


I don't think people use 'God' as a crutch, as much as a cudgel- an instrument of death and violence.

And that makes me weep.

[Mz Pip]

17. I don't hate God

I just don't believe in the judgmental vindictive God of the old testament.

Spend a bit of time on the Hubble site. Take a look at the wonders and incomprehensible vastness of the universe. If there is a God responsible for all of this, it does not micromanage our world. THere is much we do not, cannot and will never be able to understand. THe Sermon on the Mount gave us a template to live by. Whether or not this was some act of God I do not know. But if everyone followed these words we would be in a far different place. Whatever this may be, we should not expect to be bailed out for our mistakes. It's all on us. All of it.

We have the intelligence to create a paradise or destroy the world. The power is in our hands and "God" will not interfere. We have been given the tools to make it work. If we choose to screw it up, it's on us.

THere are billions of other worlds out there. A few of them might get it right, even if we don't. Perhaps God is content with that.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Bluerthanblue]

19. well said- and very

close to my beliefs-

If we did live by the be- attitudes this would REALLY be a different world-
and it has to start with each one of us.

Which sounds easy, but isn't-
Still worth walking towards, even if its a lonely path-

thanks for your insight-
blu

[Ian David]

20. God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind)

God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind)
Artist: Randy Newman
Album: Sail Away

Cain slew Abel Seth knew not why
For if the children of Israel were to multiply
Why must any of the children die?
So he asked the Lord
And the Lord said:

Man means nothing he means less to me
Than the lowliest cactus flower
Or the humblest Yucca tree
He chases round this desert
'Cause he thinks that's where I'll be
That's why I love mankind

I recoil in horror fro the foulness of thee
>From the squalor and the filth and the misery
How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me
That's why I love mankind

The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree
The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV
They picked their four greatest priests
And they began to speak
They said, "Lord, a plague is on the world
Lord, no man is free
The temples that we built to you
Have tumbled into the sea
Lord, if you won't take care of us
Won't you please, please let us be?"
And the Lord said
And the Lord said

I burn down your cities-how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You all must be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why I love mankind
You really need me
That's why I love mankind

More:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/randy-newman/gods-song-thats-why-i-love-mankind.html