Valerie Plame is Paula Jones: Article by Debra J. Saunders

[MagickMuffin]

Has anyone read this piece of CRAP

FORMER CIA operative Valerie Plame is the new Paula Jones -- if with national security credentials and Washington Beltway savoir-faire. Both women filed iffy lawsuits that seemed more designed to discredit a president than to prevail in a court of law.

And there is an element of fiction in both women's stories. Jones' tale about Clinton's retaliation never did hold water. If Plame's job depended on anonymity, her hubby should not have penned a commentary piece for the New York Times.

That said, Bush haters are mistaken in putting Wilson on a pedestal as his lawsuit is clearly misleading. To wit, the suit cited a May 2003 New York Times column written by Nicholas Kristof about Wilson's 2002 trip to Niger to check out allegations that Iraq had tried to obtain uranium from Africa: "According to the column, the ambassador reported back to the CIA and State Department in early 2002 that the allegations were unequivocally wrong and based on forged documents."

Yes, that is what Kristof wrote, but the column was off. As the Senate Intelligence Committee reported, the CIA did not find Wilson's oral report to unequivocally come down against Saddam Hussein trying to procure uranium in Niger. And Wilson could not have even known about the forged documents at the time that he made the report.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/07/18/EDGOBIPV5B1.DTL&type=printable

:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

Apparently Saunders doesn't know (to quote the pResident) "SHIT" about the story. For her to even compare a CIA officer who was undercover and working within the WMD programs, who was Protecting US Citizens from said weapons, to a woman who was funded by the Reich Wing propagandist machine is an abombination, (misspelled on purpose) to Valerie Wilson and our country!

Edit to add link

[ConsAreLiars]

1. With experience, you might find that picking up crap and showing it around

is rarely regarded as helpful or pleasant to others. In my view, playing around with right-wing feces is unhealthy for all involved. But, as they say, "different strokes ...."

[MagickMuffin]

6. I didn't really mean to sling any Crap around

I'm not all that familiar with Debra. But apparently she must be the equivalent of Coulter. I just thought it was kinda sick and sad that she would have the Balls to compare Valerie to Paula.

Thanks for the wake up call. I certainly didn't want to sling feces around, if I had only known better.

[Quixote1818]

8. I am glad you posted this

It's always good to have "other" points of view posted on DU. It allows us to see the other side and a chance to dismantle the article with the facts. Thanks for posting.

[MagickMuffin]

14. You made a good point

however earlier I was complaining about the best way to rid ourselves of Ann Coulter is just to ignore her and eventually she would fade away. That we give her power by acknowledging her diatribe. And if we ignored her she wouldn't have the power she thinks she has. No one would be interested in booking her on their shows.

But after I saw this story on Yahoo's site, my curiosity got the best of me and I had to find out what the link between Valerie and Paula could possibly be, and to my surprise and disgust I realized this bitch didn't know what the hell she was talking about.

Thanks for helping me to understand that we should always be alert to what the other side is doing to correct the errors of their ways.:hug:

[charlie]

2. Debra J. Saunders, June 2004

Clinton was correct in his assertion that Judge Susan Webber Wright found "no merit" in Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton. The judge was right: Jones failed to establish that she suffered economic damages after (and if) then-Arkansas Gov. Clinton made crude advances toward her, then a state employee. The judge didn't say Clinton did or didn't do it.

It's interesting to note that, while seeming to talk off the top of his head, Clinton smartly dispensed with the term "exonerate" when he mentioned Jones. If the Jones case was so wrong, asked former Deputy U.S. Attorney Victoria Toensing, "Why then did Clinton reach a plea agreement with (special prosecutor) Robert Ray in return for no charges being brought?" (Clinton admitted to misleading prosecutors and accepted a five-year suspension of his Arkansas law license and a $25,000 fine on his last day in office.) No exoneration there.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0604/saunders062204.asp

Sounds like a different tune about the fictive nature of Jones' charges to me.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. Why does this not surprise me?

I suspect if we dig back into her late '90s stuff, we'll find it's even MORE sympathetic and credulous toward Jones. I guess the great thing about being a wingnut writer is that wingnut readers won't bother to check for past inconsistencies.

[swimmernsecretsea]

3. Ewww. Debra J. Saunders. Ick.

My ex warned me about her. I never paid attention to her until he pointed her out to me, despite my working for the same newspaper her column appeared in. What a waste of newsprint. Why, why oh why is ink spilled in the name of her and Ann Coulter!?

[Quixote1818]

4. This statement among others is baseless and stupid

"If Plame's job depended on anonymity, her hubby should not have penned a commentary piece for the New York Times."

So Wilson was supposed to just sit quiet and let them lie?????????? OMFG!!!!

What on EARTH would his writing a commentary for the NYT's have to do with blowing her cover???????? OMFG AGAIN!!!!! What the fuck is this lady smoking?

Also, the Senate Intelligence Committees Report was pushed through by the Republics on the committee with the Democrats fighting it from the start. It turned out to be wrong!

This lazy, pathetic reporting just never seems to end!!!!

[MagickMuffin]

5. that statement got to me too,

as well as the whole idea of Valerie and Paula being equal.

Another thing that bothers me is the argument that since she posed in Vanity Fair means she put HERSELF in danger/harms way.
Not True she was put in DANGER/HARMS WAY when she was exposed by Novkula. Anyone who knew her through her work at Brewster Jennings found out that that was a cover company for the CIA.

I wrote about this in my blog a few days ago. Lawrence O'Donnell told Olbermann that he didn't think that part of the law suit would hold up because of her posing in VF. I don't think he has thought about the overall implications of this exposure to the public back in July 14, 2003.:grr:

[Quixote1818]

7. When your cover is blown, your cover is BLOWN!

Posing in VF isn't going to blow her cover any more than it already WAS! Your right, what difference would it make for her to pose in VF once everyone on earth knew who she was?????

Do these people even think about what they are saying?

[MagickMuffin]

15. Do these people even think about what they are saying?

To answer your question:

First you have to have a brain, and then you have to know how to use it. Critical thinking is not something these people (?) possess. :evilgrin:

[Binka]

9. I Met Deb At A Social Gathering in 2001

She was loud, obnoxious, condescending, inarticulate, horribly dressed, 3 sheets to the wind, stinky, and fat. And I told her just that right before I left the soiree. Really. I did.:evilgrin:

[EFerrari]

10. I'm so happy you did that.

:evilgrin:

[Binka]

11. To Top It Off Her Partner Drooled All Over Me The Entire Time

My date suggested I leave him my panties! :evilgrin:

[EFerrari]

12. Don't make me empathize with him.

:rofl:

[swimmernsecretsea]

16. I wish I could shake your hand!

Thank you for that! She deserves it.

[swimmernsecretsea]

17. Thank you for posting this.

I think it's good to be reminded of what people like her are saying. What is the saying...Change favors the prepared mind.