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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 03:52 AM
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Parents chop off girl's head over affair
The Nagpada Police yesterday arrested Mohammed Khan (38) and his wife Shenaz (35) for brutally murdering their daughter Mehnaz (18).

Gulnaz, the younger daughter, was also arrested for abetting the crime.
The police had found Mehnaz’s dismembered body stuffed into a plastic sack on a road near the Byculla flyover on July 2.

In their confession, the parents told the police that they murdered Menaz as she fell in love with a Hindu boy from the same locality.

An official from Nagpada police station said, “Fearing social stigma over their daughter’s affair, the duo decided to kill her and even convinced their younger daughter to join them in their brutal act.”

http://ww3.mid-day.com/news/city/2006/july/140744.htm
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 03:54 AM
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1. Whew! Glad they avoided that "social stigma"!
:wtf:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 03:58 AM
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2. Really They Couldn't Have The Neighbors Chatting About The Affair!
Jeybus Gawd! :wtf: INDEED!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:00 AM
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4. Yeah, really...
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 04:02 AM by Raine
I guess murdering your own flesh amd blood doesn't stigmatize you as much as being the parent of a girl who fell in love with the wrong boy. :eyes: :-(

EDIT: Spelling
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:04 AM
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5. sadly, in some cases that is true
some of the people they worried about would probably think better of them for murdering their daughter for such a "horrible crime" of loving someone of a different religion than if they had accepted the relationship.
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:48 AM
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14. Remember, he was a HINDU boy!!!
:scared: :scared: :scared:

There goes the neighborhood fer sure.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:00 AM
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3. Religion is such a comfort
Otherwise, how would we know how to act morally?
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:07 AM
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7. Ain't it the truth...
And everyone can see just how morally our supposedly religious leaders act!

Religious dogmas obviously aren't doing much for the human spirit. Some of my friends think I'm a rather spiritual person, but it has nothing to do with any religious dogmas. I try not to have anything to do with that shit.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:25 AM
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11. Religious Dogmas Are POISON!
They wither the soul and murder the spirit. Religion is the GROSSEST, BIGGEST, VILEST, bastion of utter SWINE & SCOUNDRELS!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:22 AM
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17. That's the absolute truth n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:25 AM
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18. Bullies love dogmas
when it favors,rationalizes and excuses thier thirst for power ,control and status over others.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:57 AM
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23. We Should Change Dogmas to Cowmas Because They Are Loved By Cowards!
Every Bully is an inherent COWARD! Every fucking one of them. Religion is for COWARDS!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:15 AM
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26. My dogma was run over by a karma
And it was the cutest little dogma, too.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:24 AM
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27. If The Religious Zealots Were Honest They Would Call It Godma
Dogma just gives a bad name to dogs! Sorry yours got run over!:silly:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:53 AM
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29. .
:D :hi:
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:05 AM
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6. To be balanced, Hindus and Xtians have committed comparable crimes.
If your intent was to vilify Muslims, then you need to realize that all fundie fanatics do this kind of crime. Anti-human ideologies, whatever their religious or political affiliation, create and validate this kind of atrocity. See the slaughters in Iraq perpetuated by the powers that control the US as one example, the slaughters in Lebanon or Gaza as another.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:09 AM
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8. Yeah, they all do.
You would think people would have grown out of such stupidity long ago.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:11 AM
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9. Wow, talk about religious intolerance
Religion is an issue that needs to be addressed in our world in more ways than one.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:12 AM
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10. Not exactly Romeo and Juliette, is it?
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that maybe this family had other problems not being addressed prior to this incident.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:29 AM
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12. Patriarchy sucks
And men that feel they will be humiliated over whom another person falls in love with enough to cut their head off needs to have his dick removed and be locked in a cell forever to die.
I wish patriarchy and the bully sociopath control game patriarchy is would die forever. We are human beings and we have a right to love whom we love.No bully should be in control of another's love,mind heart or body. I hate bullies and the sociopath culture they create and all the fools that play make believe and do shit like kill a child because she loves someone the bully don't like. Fuck this shit.Fuck all authoritarians and the lies they spread in the name of religion,the state or some other sick form of domination of the spirit of beauty and innocent love.
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:50 AM
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15. Fuck patriarchy and any belief system that perpetuates it. n/t
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:29 AM
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13. Someone help me out here, is brutally slaughtering your children
a social or a religious moral, in this case? :dilemma:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:09 AM
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16. Neither
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 05:23 AM by undergroundpanther
It is a domination game
Said owner of female child thinks he is entitled to control the kind of person she is permitted to love. His religion backs up his domination of the daughter he owns that he killed.

His culture is built upon his"dick privileges" to own or dominate women in his culture. His religion written by and for males excuse said'dick privleges'through an abusive social 'immorality' in the name of a religious'morality'wriiten by and for men who like to control. This deluded shit head slave owner/father acts on this lie he believes(I mean look at the perks of being a member of the privileged class) by killing her because her freedom to love a "dirty Hindu" not in the Islam club would mean he is "impotent" in enforcing religious domination of his daughter/slave .


His daughter having a choice in whom she loves would make him feel inferior in the eyes of other males,who make their chattel follow the rules..and if cannot control a woman he owns he looks weak in the domination department and it shows to the neighbors he is weak because his chattel got uppity and broke an overvalued religious tenet and taboo used to subjugate women, so his family faces'shame'.Sad truth is that shame exists only in the worldview of an abuser control freak in a sociopath patriarchal culture that ascribes 'value' to it... So when a culture of control freaks equate free females with not being in control of themselves,this lack of power-over others makes his weenie look small to himself and to the neighbors and so rather than be diminished in the appearance of power he does what any bully does,he kills his uppity chattel whom he already sees as a non-human being..

Sons don't face that kind of sadism they are males so they are not chattel for men to abuse and so they live the way a dominator is raised he is a human being,and he does not face death for falling in love,he can rape a hindu woman if he can get away with it,and he will not suffer death,the raped woman will.It's easy when you are privileged to ruin others lives and call it a "right".Men in such a culture as that are not held accountable to anything they do to women,unless the woman is married or owned by another male.Than it's male stepping on another males property and he owes the other male for damaging his'property' and the woman dies..Women are raised as property in patriarchy,taught to have no life of her own,to fear freedom,to obey to be subjugated ,abused chaste by their father/owners/family collaborators until they are bought from their fathers as property and owned by other men..

This tragedy incidentally is the end result of the same shit Fundamentalists desire to force upon women here,this is where the fundamentalist submitted housewife,the she asked for it rape apologists and abortion is murder bullshit debate leaves women,as chattel of males.I for one will not bow to anyone,especially no dick with delusions of patriarchal entitlement..

We are all free oor nobody is.and if that male was so cowed by what the neighbors would think he murdered his daughter he ain't free,he is a slave too,a slave kicking a lesser slave to tell himself he is not weak.When in fact he was more of a slave than she was. And that is what he wanted to cover up by killing her.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:26 AM
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19. And don't forget: God says it's right.
Because God is our father.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:53 AM
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24. No, in none of the holy books
does it say that parents should murder their children because they are in love with someone of a different faith. In the case of fornicators, they must have a trial; and even then the Qur'an suggests mercy and compassion.
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:38 AM
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20. You are so right
You totally captured the "spirit" of patriarchy.

How do we get those in the privileged class to set us free? How do we convince them to give up some of their dick privileges to live equally with women? They have it made right now.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:30 PM
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31. And there you are. How do you make such a fundamental change to a society
without destroying said society, the collapse of which inevitably leads to an authoritarian, patriarchical, hierarchy.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:49 AM
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21. I guess that will teacher her.
I realize this is something that was accepted for centuries, but it still reeks of barbaric attitudes.
How can a parent just dispose of their child like that? HOW!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:57 AM
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22. If these murderers had a son who was having an
affair with a Hindu would they have chopped his head off?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:14 AM
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25. Why must people lose their heads over trivial matters like sex?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:27 AM
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28. Hmm can we send this thread to Rush? (nt)
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:30 PM
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30. Vigilantism, not religion.
Religion is merely the excuse.

BushCo swore in a posse and invaded Iraq.

Israel attacks because their soldiers are kidnapped.

Any jihad is an effort to enforce laws.

At the bottom of it all is mob mentality.

This poor woman was only a more personal tragedy of the same mindset.
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