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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:40 AM
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How many Hezbollah have been killed thus far ?
Does anyone know? What's to prevent them from re-grouping once there is a break in the action? Or will they be so busy trying to rebuild the roads, airports, and bridges, that they will have no time to fight? How many Hezbollah are there in Lebanon and how many have been killed?
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:42 AM
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1. And how many new recruits will they get after this attack on Lebanon? n/t
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omenapoint Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:43 AM
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2. How many Hezbollah killed? Not enough.
That is the answer. Peace is great, but Hezbollah won't rest until Israel is destroyed.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:25 PM
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6. And Israel won't rest until Hezbollah is destroyed.
Quite the recipe for peace there. Meanwhile who is doing the dying? Civilians on both sides. Thus it always is in our postmodern wars.
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winter999 Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:45 PM
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8. Agreed!
Never have I heard Israel determined to DESTROY Hezbollah. I believe they and the UN resolution states that Hezbollah needs to disarm and disband, not die. Originally (before Hazbollah started this shit), Israel was only asking for recognition and respect.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:19 PM
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15. The OP was looking for a number, not propaganda.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:40 PM
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26. Awfully hard to even estimate
when you're using artillery strikes.

Even if you then occupy the land you never get a decently accurate number.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:49 AM
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3. Far, far fewer than the 300 Lebanese, I'm sure.
I'm looking for news reports on specifically Hezbollah #s and if I find them I'll post.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:02 PM
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18. Posted below.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:28 PM
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20. Thank you. I gave up.
I guess I'm not the world's best googler. ;-)
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:49 AM
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4. that's a damn good question
and I'll add what I wrote in a response in another disappearing rapidly thread.

What if Israel bombed and killed the two kidnapped soldiers that supposedly started this mess in the first place. If Israel actually has the capability of bombing known Hezbollah targets, how the hell do they know their soldiers aren't being held there?
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Laotra Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:25 PM
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5. According to Juan Cole
Hizbollah is mass movement of way over million people and second largest employer in the country, among other things. Plenty of killing to do for the killing oriented.

According to some sources, standing active militia is only 6 000 strong, but the number of "weekend warriors" is manyfold, in tens if not hundreds of thousands.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:28 PM
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7. Many thousands? Can't kill 'em all. Condi needs to get her narrow fanny
over there and begin peace negotiations.
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Laotra Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:48 PM
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9. And tough
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 12:49 PM by Laotra
20 years of guerilla war against the best army on Earth teaches how to fight (but sadly, not how to stop fighting). Judging by their ability to cause casualties to IDF, one on one and with equal weapons they would beat IDF, and if Israel hates something, it is having their military superiority questioned. Even those Lebanese who hate Hizbollah for political and other reasons, respect their ability to defend the southern border.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:14 PM
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11. Bush condones a policy of collective punishment by sitting it out
until a thriving city is reduced to rubble.

"Leader of the free world".:eyes:
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winter999 Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:52 PM
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10. The only issue I have with this
is that every time the US goes oversees to stick its nose in other counties problems, we cry Imperialism. Maybe this time we should keep out of it and let the dust settle. Its not our land, not our families, not our blood. This is something the whole world should be worried and saddened by. Come on Kofi, time for the UN to do something.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:16 PM
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12. See post #11.(eom)
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:18 PM
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13. Guess it all depends on the definition of Hizbollah, doesn't it?
After the first two or three days of attacks, I heard the Israeli ambassador indirectly call Lebanese officials liars. He was dismissing the question from the host about over 100 being killed as being falsely reported.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:18 PM
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14. ONLY TWO -- AS OF YESTERDAY, PER THE WASH. POST
TWO OUT OF 2OO+ OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE.

IN LEBANON:

At least 227 people have been killed and more than 450 wounded, according to figures reported by the Lebanese national police and the military. Among the dead are 20 Lebanese army soldiers and TWO HEZBOLLAH GUERILLAS.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/18/AR2006071800730.html
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Laotra Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:27 PM
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19. Whaa?
Then it would be at least 14 KIA and two POW's from IDF against 2 Hezbollah guerillas.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:36 PM
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21. That would appear to be correct.
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Laotra Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:56 PM
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22. Sincerely
I doubt that number. I've seen footage of IAF taking out a Hezbollah battery, and to my understanding Hezbollah is not in the habit of advertizing their casualty numbers but prefers to appear victorious.

Any case, by available sources Hezbollah casualties seem to be still very low considering everything, while the reason why IDF is very reluctant towards any serious land incursion into Lebanese territory is becoming more evident.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 03:25 PM
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24. It is the Washington Post reporting it, not Hezbollah "advertising" it.
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Laotra Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:54 PM
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25. WP quoting
Lebanese sources. There may be data that is not known to the Lebanese sources in question. Or there may not be, I don't claim to know anything for sure, I don't think we are getting a full information flow (even though DU community is doing hell of a job to collect as much possible) for various reasons. There are known unknowns and unknown unknowns, as a certain lesser philosopher once said.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:58 PM
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23. Wow.
All that killing for two so far.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:21 PM
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16. handful
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:28 PM
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17. ONLY TWO.
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