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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:17 PM
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I'm voting Ned Lamont on August 8
Those supporting Joe Lieberman say that his opposition has been fueled by angry anti-war activists and bloggers, the fringe of the party. As a Connecticut resident, my opposition to Joe Lieberman has grown out of my disappointment in him, and not any anger or influence of activists, bloggers or "the fringe". I'm generally not an angry person, I'm not a blogger and my activism rarely extends beyond letters to the editor and offering some sarcasm and the occasional bit of constructive criticism here on DU.

My disappointment really first started with Joe's piece in last year's Wall St. Journal that said Democrats should suck it up and accept Bush as president for the next three years, and that any criticism of Team Bush is tantamount to treason because it undermines the war effort. Strange that Joe singled out Democrats, as some members of Bush's own party have been among his strongest critics on Iraq. For example, around the time that Lieberman wrote his piece, ultra-conservative Republican Chuck Hagel, the Senator from Nebraska, said that Republicans should accept the idea that it is okay to criticize Bush over Iraq. And, Hagel has been a vocal critic of the Iraq debacle all along. Does Joe think it is okay for Hagel, or Colin Powell, to criticize the war because they have the (R) after their names?

My dissatisfaction grew when asked about his support of the war, he kept spinning out long-debunked Republican Talking Points that were seemingly straight from Karl Rove's desk. With the reality being that Iraq is a disaster and is rapidly deteriorating, Joe's comments on how rosy things are in Iraq call into question either his integrity or whether he is completely divorced from reality. Even earlier this month, he praised the great progress being made there while death squads and militias roam the streets killing scores of Iraqi citizens every week.

Third, and to show that it is not just about the war, it was Lieberman's insensitive comment about a rape victim driving to another hospital to get the "morning-after" pill, his support of the Bush-Cheney-Exxon energy bill, his lack of support for Feingold's censure movement over illegal wiretapping of American citizens when he had previously called on Bill Clinton to be censured over Monica Lewinsky, his lack of support for universal health care and his support of federal intervention in the Terri Schiavo case that had me shaking my head time and again.

Fourth, and the final straw with me, was Lieberman refusing to rule out a run as an independent if the voters in the Democratic Party decided to nominate Ned Lamont. If Lieberman is truly the Democrat he claims to be, he should have the courage to endorse the will of Connecticut Democrats in the August 8 primary and support Ned Lamont should Joe lose the primary. No wonder I see far more "Ned Lamont" yard signs than I do Joe Lieberman ones on my long commute to work each day. I would be embarrassed to show my support of such a lukewarm Democrat. Heck, on DailyKos they are now reporting he would not rule out running on the Republican line!

I like to think of myself as a tolerant person who believes the Democratic Party should be the "Big Tent" party. Previously, I had thought Joe was an okay senator who, while a neocon on foreign policy, was somewhat progressive on social issues. Before Lamont entered the race, I would have voted for Joe in November because I knew he would be one more vote for Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader should we ever wrest control of the Senate from the Forces of Darkness. I would have tolerated his views on Iraq in hopes that he would some day come back to reality on the issue.

However, when you add Iraq on top of his refusal to endorse the will of Democrats in the primary, Terri Schiavo and everything else, I cannot vote for Lieberman in good conscience, on August 8th or in November. I was leaning Lamont before, but since Lieberman's refusal to rule out an independent run was confirmed, I am now 100% completely behind Lamont and become more sure every day.


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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:30 PM
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1. If I were a resident of CT I would join you in voting Lamont.
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:32 PM
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2. Ditto
Me too!
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Fermezlabush Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:37 PM
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3. You lucky dog! I too get to vote for an anti-war candidate - Tassini vs
Hillary - but this race is being kept hush-hush - even here.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:38 PM
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4. I'm voting for Tasini
and I'd vote for Lamont if I were in CT.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:06 PM
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10. So, don't fermez! Get it out, big, -proud and loud.
:kick:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:01 PM
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5. Are angry anti-war activists and bloggers
really "the fringe of the party?" Who benefits from that characterization?

I think many democrats, not just the "anti-war" faction, have been disappointed in Joe's too-often support of GWB's agenda. There are plenty of valid reasons to vote for his opponent, imo.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:49 PM
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14. No, they are not the fringe
but, that is how they have been characterized by the pro Joe crowd.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:28 PM
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21. If we are the fringe
then the fringe is getting wider and wider and wider and wider and wider. ............

:hippie:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:31 PM
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23. Another Reason for Lamont to Win

Ned Lamont is the EXACT type of progressive/dem who we want for PRESIDENT someday. Think down the road folks. Don't let this guy get away. We're looking for leaders, well... Do we er, CT, I keep forgetting I don't live there,..... want 6 MORE YEARS of Lieberman???? A guy no one can trust.

Nedrenaline!

:bounce:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:03 PM
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6. Fuck Lieberman. He's had his chance.
Good luck, we're holding you personally responsible if Lamont loses.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:04 PM
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7. Thanks
From us who can't vote there.
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PoiBoy Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:05 PM
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8. I hope you send this to every newspaper in your state...
excellent points, very well articulated! ... :hi:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:53 PM
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11. Thanks
it started as an LTTE, but just got way too long.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:05 PM
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9. Go, Jeff!
:hi:
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:04 PM
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12. You've articulated your position very well - K&R
Pretty work, NewJeffCT.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:26 PM
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13. And only the Dem Congresspeople firmly in the grip of the neocon agenda
will support him. As you point out, his stands are not for or with the Dems but largely with Israel.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:29 PM
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15. I am a Zionist Jew who will vote for Lamont
I am Liberal on everything but Israel's right to exist and defend itself. But I am against The Iraq war and everything else Tree 43 has done. I am also mad that Lieberman wouldn't stop the Ultra Conservative Supreme court nominations tree 43 appointed.


Go Ned!!!!!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:57 PM
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18. I've noticed
I drive through West Hartford quite often, and it is a town known for having a large Jewish population... however, I still see quite a few more Lamont signs than I do Lieberman ones.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:04 PM
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20. I'm in Stratford and there are alot of Lamont lawn signs
I hope he isn't another Dean.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:51 AM
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26. Most of us are not single stance voters
We tend to be very Liberal except in our views on the Mid-East pertaining to Israel. I for one do not believe for one second that Tree 43 has Israels best interests at heart. He just is pandering to his Fundy base. Proof of this is the Stem Cell debate. The facts are that the bush crime family were Nazis supporters during the second WW.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:32 PM
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16. You and me both, pal!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:58 PM
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19. Welcome to DU
Hope you stick around for a while.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:38 PM
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17. HI: Akaka vs. Case. The twist is that...
anti-war Akaka is the incumbent while his over-ambitious primary challenger is a DINO who supports the war. Case is giving up a seat in Congress to do this. Meanwhile, our repuke governor has no serious challenger, and now the 2nd Dist. seat is open again. Thanks a lot, Ed Case! :sarcasm:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:31 PM
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22. Over-ambitious is right
Case could've easily moved into higher office as soon as Akaka or Inouye retired. Luckilly plenty of people are running for his House seat.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:48 PM
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24. Aw-RIGHT!!!!1 How're the prospects? n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:30 AM
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25. New poll from Quinnipiace should be out today
I'm sure somebody will post the results when announced... unfortunately, I will be at work until 6pm or so tonight.
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