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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:12 PM
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Is Bush a Malignant Narcissist?
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 05:13 PM by Joanne98
Anatomy Of Malignant Narcissism

In 1970, Otto Kernberg coined the term, "malignant narcissism"; he pointed out that the antisocial personality was fundamentally narcissistic and without morality. Malignant narcissism includes a sadistic element, creating, in essence, a sadistic psychopath. In this essay, "malignant narcissism" and psychopathy are employed interchangeably.


Imagine, as an abuse survivor of someone with malignant narcissism or narcissistic personality disorder, giving your life over to a psychopath, and doing it with trust and a firm belief in his authority. What if said psychopathic conman, was advising victims? It seems absurd, that an abuser would advise the abused. It seems even more absurd, that the abused would take the advice to heart. Yet it happened to me, till I got wise to it and learned more about this disorder, and its largely superficial resemblance to narcissistic personality disorder, or garden variety "narcissism".

Psychopaths are known to be grandiose, to distort reality, to be contemptuous of human beings, and to be completely without conscience . To ask such a malignant narcissist for advice is to suffer life consequences. Are his words really full of "truth" and "insight" and "care" for the victims?

Recently, I came across the following exchange in part 40 of the psychopath's "narcissism list":

Question


Why do his victims feel they are turning into narcissists themselves?

Answer

Narcissism is contagious. The narcissism creates a "bubble universe", similar to a cult. In this bubble, special rules apply.

These rules do not always correspond to outer reality.

Using complex defense mechanisms, such as projective identification, the narcissist forces his victims - spouse, mate, friend, colleague - to "play a role" assigned to him by "God" - the narcissist.

The narcissist rewards compliance with his script and punishes any deviation from it with severe abuse.

In other words, the narcissist CONDITIONS people around him using intimidation, positive and negative reinforcements and feedback, ambient abuse ("gas-lighting"), covert, or controlling abuse, and overt, classical abuse.

Thus conditioned, the narcissist's victims gradually come to assimilate the narcissist's way of thinking (follies a-deux) and his modus operandi - his methods.

You can abandon the narcissist - but the narcissist never abandons you.

He is there, deep inside your traumatic memories, lurking, waiting to act out. You have been modified, very much like an alien snatching bodies.


http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/malignant_narcissism.html

Analysis

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fearthem Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:15 PM
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1. DEFINITELY, he personifies the description ...
his photo should be in the dictionary next to the description!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:16 PM
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2. Ted Bundy worked on a suicide hotline
I'll bet he came off as more empathetic than Bush, at least superficially. He was also smarter.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:17 PM
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3. Or a sociopath or both
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 05:20 PM by OhioBlues
Characteristics/symptoms

Central to understanding individuals diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder is that they appear to experience a limited range of human emotions; however this should be regarded critically due to current lack of exploring emotional response in detail even in animals. This can explain the lack of empathy for the suffering of others, since they cannot experience emotion associated with either empathy or suffering. Risk-seeking behavior and substance abuse may be attempts to escape feeling empty or emotionally void. The rage exhibited by psychopaths and the anxiety associated with certain types of antisocial personality disorder may represent the limit of emotion experienced, or there may be physiological responses without analogy to emotion experienced by others.

A common misconception is that many of the individuals diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder can be found in prisons. Criminal activity does not automatically warrant a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder, nor does a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder imply that a person is a criminal. It is hypothesized that many high achievers exhibit antisocial personality disorder characteristics. This, however, brings much criticism upon the diagnostic criteria specified for those exhibiting antisocial personality disorder and the PCL-R. Both of these tests depend upon the person in question being a criminal or having participated in criminal activities.

Research has shown that individuals with antisocial personality disorder are indifferent to the possibility of physical pain or many punishments, and show no indications that they experience fear when so threatened. This may explain their apparent disregard for the consequences of their actions, and their lack of empathy with the suffering of others. Although it is agreed upon by most psychiatrists that antisocial personality disorder is almost impossible to treat, there is some evidence that shows that they respond to impersonalized loss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:18 PM
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4. That's why I love DU - masters of understatement.
my descriptions tend to be x-rated
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:26 PM
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11. lol
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:19 PM
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5. Very possible. Although other diagnoses must be considered as well,
such as Major Asshole Syndrome, NOS.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:28 PM
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12. If you type asshole in google and hit "I'm feeling lucky"
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:35 PM
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14. Whoa. You know what, Joanne...
If I didn't know any better, I might suspect the webmasters of that site to have a liberal bias!

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:21 PM
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6. Bush is a malignant narcissist......
Somebody else already diagnosed him....

Paul Levy
GEORGE BUSH IS A MALIGNANT NARCISSIST
Tue Feb 8, 2005 15:45
64.140.158.124
GEORGE BUSH IS A MALIGNANT NARCISSIST

by Paul Levy
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/bushnarc.html

Psychologically speaking, Mr. George W. Bush is what is called a ‘malignant narcissist.’ A narcissist is someone who has become hypnotized and entranced by their own inflated self-image. They have become so self-absorbed that not only are they not in genuine relation with others, but they relate to others (including the environment) as objects to satisfy their own need for self-aggrandizement. A ‘malignant’ narcissist, however, is a narcissist who reacts sadistically to others who don't support and enable their narcissism. For example, instead of self-reflecting and taking in critical feedback, the Bush administration reacts with ruthless contempt for anyone who disagrees with them. Like a mean and cruel-spirited malignant narcissist, Bush and Co. deny the accusation and try to destroy the messenger. Ultimately, a malignant narcissist wants to annihilate anyone who in any way threatens their illusory self-image and self-serving agenda.

Malignant narcissists can be very charismatic, and are very adept at charming and manipulating others. They are clever at camouflaging their malevolent agenda, even to themselves, and can appear to be very normal, regular, and seemingly loving people. To quote the great doctor of the soul, psychiatrist C. G. Jung “only a very small fraction of so-called psychopaths land in the asylum. The overwhelming majority of them constitute that part of the population which is alleged to be “normal.”” And, I might add, that many of these so-called seemingly ‘normal’ psychopaths are drawn to positions of power. Malignant narcissists are very skilled at entrancing others, at putting other’s under their spell. They are master hypnotists. They are like ‘black magicians,’ in that they are very talented at hooking others through their fear by using ‘mind-control’ techniques such as lying and propaganda to control them.

The narcissism of a leader such as Bush resonates with the narcissism inherent in his supporters, who identify with Bush’s seeming certainty and lack of doubt (it never occurs to them that, to quote John Kerry “You can be certain and wrong.”). This creates a very dangerous and pathological situation called “group narcissism,” in which a large group of people have dis-connected from their critical faculties and entrusted their power to their narcissistic leader. This is a perversely symbiotic, co-dependent relationship in which all members of the group are colluding with and enabling each other’s narcissism. For example, George Bush, in his utter narcissism thinks that God speaks through him. Instead of being seen as deluded, his supporters reflect back to him that they, too, think that God speaks through him. This, of course, just reinforces Bush’s narcissistic delusion. Seeing Bush as God’s instrument concurrently fulfills in the Bush supporters their adolescent fantasy of having someone who is playing the role of the divine leader to protect them. This mutually interdependent and reciprocally reinforcing delusion is what is called a ‘collective psychosis.’

By playing with people’s fear, Bush is hypnotizing people to give their power away to him. Unfortunately, by doing this he has hypnotized himself as well, which is to say he is deceiving himself in the process of his deceiving of others. Malignant narcissists are pathological liars. They are very adept at both lying and then believing their own lies. The conviction they carry in this act of self-deception can easily ‘entrance’ people. To quote Jung “Nothing has such a convincing effect as a lie one invents and believes oneself, or an evil deed or intention whose righteousness one regards as self-evident.” A malignant narcissist plays with people’s fears so as to gain their trust and control them, which is based on the abuse of power over others that is the signature of a true dictator.

At their core, a malignant narcissist’s desire is to dominate and have power over others. The perverse enjoyment of complete domination over another person(s), which involves transforming a person into an object (a ‘thing’), in which their freedom is taken away, is the very essence of the sadistic drive. Their sadism is a way of transforming their feelings of powerlessness and impotence into an experience of omnipotence.

A malignant narcissist is the incarnation of the separate, alienated self spinning out of control to a pathological degree. They are unconsciously identified with and will protect at any cost an imaginary ‘separate self’ that is alien from the rest of the universe. Paradoxically, at the same time that they experience themselves as separate from others, the malignant narcissist lives in a state of ‘unconscious fusion’ with others. To a malignant narcissist, other people don’t truly exist as autonomous beings. Other people only exist as disposable pawns to feed and support their narcissistic, masturbatory fantasies. A malignant narcissist hasn’t developed a sense of their own authentic self, which is why they are unable to be in genuine relationship with others. Psychologically, malignant narcissism is a very primitive and un-evolved state, one which is totally lacking in eros (relatedness).

Because they don’t relate to other people as independent and separate from their own inflated, narcissist self, the malignant narcissist doesn’t respect other people’s boundaries. Their self-serving, narcissistic illogic allows them to justify, even in the name of God, transgressing other’s boundaries, be them an individual’s civil liberties, or another nation’s sovereignty. Interestingly enough, etymologically, the word “evil” is related to the word “transgress.”

Malignant narcissists are not conscious of the interconnectedness between themselves and others. They are unable to feel empathy for others and have an overwhelming lack of genuine compassion (so much for compassionate conservatism). Concerned about nothing other than themselves, malignant narcissists are indifferent to other people’s suffering, all the while, though, professing their compassion. Malignant narcissists are unable to genuinely mourn, for they are ultimately only concerned with themselves. They will show grief, however, just like they will try and appear compassionate, if it is politically correct to do so and, hence, to their advantage, as they are master manipulators. They are a true ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing.’

Malignant narcissists are unconsciously possessed by the power-drive of the archetypal shadow. Being possessed by an archetype means that the malignant narcissists have lost their freedom, as a more powerful transpersonal, archetypal force has so unconsciously taken them over that it compulsively acts itself out through them. They themselves are being used and manipulated like puppets on a string by the more powerful archetypal force. Becoming possessed by an archetype like this, to quote Jung, “turns a man into a flat collective figure, a mask behind which he can no longer develop as a human being, but becomes increasingly stunted.” Jung continues “Since nobody is capable of recognizing just where and how much he himself is possessed and unconscious, he simply projects his own condition upon his neighbor, and thus it becomes a sacred duty to have the biggest guns and the most poisonous gas.”

Malignant narcissists can seem confident and self-assured, but are, in reality, covering deep insecurities and fears through an inflated self-image. Intense feelings of revenge, fury and rage verging on insanity manifests when their fear is exposed, and their narcissism threatened. At the core of their process is self-hatred, as malignant narcissists split-off and dissociate from a part of themselves. As Jung points out, “a habitual dissociation is one of the signs of a psychopathic disposition.” Jung talks about this condition by saying it may even result in “a splitting of the personality, a condition in which quite literally one hand no longer knows what the other is doing…..Ignorance of one’s other side creates great insecurity. One does not really know who one is; one feels inferior somewhere and yet does not wish to know where the inferiority lies, with the result that a new inferiority is added to the original one.” A malignant narcissist falls into an infinite regression of being in denial about being in denial and hiding from their own lies. A malignant narcissist such as Bush is continually in a state of hiding from himself.

Malignant narcissists have contempt for and flagrantly violate the rule of law, which, in their inflation, they believe themselves to be above. “International law?” Bush arrogantly smirked in December 2003, “I better call my lawyer.” Malignant narcissists, like a true bully, abuse their power simply because they can. They can endlessly ‘talk’ about taking responsibility, but they never genuinely face up to and become accountable for their actions.

Malignant narcissists are unwilling and unable to experience their sense of shame, guilt or sin, as their narcissism doesn’t allow these feelings. This inability to consciously feel their ‘negative’ feelings is at the root of the dynamic in which they dissociate from their own darkness, blaming and ‘projecting the shadow’ out there onto some ‘other.’ This splitting-off and projecting out their own evil results in always having a potential enemy around every corner, which is why malignant narcissists tend towards paranoia. Malignant narcissists continually ‘need’ an enemy and will even create new ones to ensure that they don’t have to look at the evil within their own hearts. They react with aversion to the reflection of their own evil, going so far as to want to exterminate evil from the world. Or as George Bush would say “to rid the world of evil-doers.” Ridding the world of evil is an act that can never be attained, however, as by ‘projecting the shadow,’ malignant narcissists themselves become the very evil-doer that they see out there and are trying to destroy. George Bush has become possessed by the very thing he’s fighting against.

Caught in the vicious cycle of the repetition compulsion of the traumatized soul, malignant narcissists create more of the very evil that they are fighting against, as is evidenced by the way George Bush is fighting terrorism. He has become a terrorist in the way he has reacted to terrorism. In essence, Bush is at war with and trying to destroy his own shadow, which is not only a battle that can never be won, but is a form of insanity. And he’s acting it out on the world stage.

Thai intellectual and social critic Sulak Sivaraksa likens Bush to two other malignant narcissists, Hitler and Stalin, pointing out that Bush's "axis of Evil," Hitler's "Final Solution," and Stalin's "pogrom of peasants" were actually analogous attempts "to perfect the world by destroying the impurities." Interestingly enough, another modern day malignant narcissist is none other than Saddam Hussein.

If left in power, malignant narcissists ultimately destroy themselves and everyone around them. Malignant narcissists are what are called ‘necrophiles,’ in that their impulses are perversely directed against life, the spontaneity of which they are afraid of, and towards death and destruction, which they are secretly attracted to. To quote the psychologist Eric Fromm, this “severe mental sickness….represents the quintessence of evil; it is as the same time the most severe pathology and the root of the most vicious destructiveness and inhumanity.” The ‘force’ used by malignant narcissists to achieve their ends, to use Simone Weil’s definition, has the capacity to turn a man into a corpse- literally. To quote Eric Fromm “Just as sexuality can create life, force can destroy it. All force is, in the last analysis, based on the power to kill. I may not kill a person but only deprive him of his freedom; I may want only to humiliate him…...behind all these actions stands my capacity to kill and my willingness to kill.“ Malignant narcissists have a sadistic ‘willingness to kill’ so as to protect their own self-serving delusions, which makes them particularly dangerous, as they will literally stop at nothing to hold onto the position of power they find themselves in. Malignant narcissists are murderers who are criminally insane.

Malignant narcissism is a deadly illness that deserves our genuine compassion. However, it is an extremely dangerous situation if the malignant narcissist, like George Bush, is in a position of power where he can create endless, unnecessary suffering and destruction. If we fall under Bush’s spell and elect him to be our leader for another four years, we would be in a situation similar to the Germans in WWII, who, to quote Jung “allowed themselves to be driven to the slaughterhouse by their leading psychopaths like hypnotized sheep.” It is time to wake up from our spell. We need to do everything and anything in our power to remove George Bush from office, for God’s sake, as well as our own.

Paul Levy is a spiritually-informed political activist. He can be reached at paul@awakeninthedream.com. Please visit his website at www.awakeninthedream.com, where his article “The Madness of George Bush: A Reflection of Our Collective Psychosis” is available. Please feel free to pass this article along to a friend if you feel so inspired.

© 2004 Paul Levy
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:22 PM
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7. I'd call him more of a parasitic tumor
but malignant narcissist is probably more apt.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:24 PM
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9. One that kills it's host.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:23 PM
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8. I would apply that term to the entire neocon cabal.
They weren't called "the crazies" for nothing,...they are extremely sick individuals having a black-hole in lieu of normal human empathy.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:25 PM
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10. Group Narcissism......

The narcissism of a leader such as Bush resonates with the narcissism inherent in his supporters, who identify with Bush’s seeming certainty and lack of doubt (it never occurs to them that, to quote John Kerry “You can be certain and wrong.”). This creates a very dangerous and pathological situation called “group narcissism,” in which a large group of people have dis-connected from their critical faculties and entrusted their power to their narcissistic leader. This is a perversely symbiotic, co-dependent relationship in which all members of the group are colluding with and enabling each other’s narcissism. For example, George Bush, in his utter narcissism thinks that God speaks through him. Instead of being seen as deluded, his supporters reflect back to him that they, too, think that God speaks through him. This, of course, just reinforces Bush’s narcissistic delusion. Seeing Bush as God’s instrument concurrently fulfills in the Bush supporters their adolescent fantasy of having someone who is playing the role of the divine leader to protect them. This mutually interdependent and reciprocally reinforcing delusion is what is called a ‘collective psychosis.’

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:50 PM
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17. Except, Bush is a facade for the narcisstic "crazies" who have,...
,...worked their entire lives to manipulate others into their control while simultaneously engaging in abusive economic engagements around the world, without a thought about the consequences about how their barbarianism impacts humanity. They don't give a shit about anything other than power, control and money, money, money.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:29 PM
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13. Yep. As has been often discussed on DU, absolutely.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:36 PM
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15. By the metrics of...
Dr. Sam Vaknin, the man who wrote many of the definitive books on Malignant Narcissism, Dear Leader certainly qualifies.

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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 05:44 PM
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16. Is that the clinical term for 'flatulating butthead'?
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