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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:40 PM
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Patti Davis Outs Bush Veto Hypocrisy & Moral-Religious-Ethical Reasoning
Does Anyone Care?
At the end of the day, President Bush’s veto of stem-cell research doesn’t really matter.
WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Patti Davis
Special to Newsweek
Updated: 11:53 a.m. PT July 19, 2006

White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said, about the impending veto, that President Bush “thinks murder is wrong.” But apparently, the destruction of fertilized eggs—flushed away as if they’re useless—doesn’t count as murder. Only using those fertilized eggs for valuable scientific research that could eventually save people’s lives counts as murder in this president’s mind. No one in this administration, with all their wordplay and posturing, has been able to dance around that stunning lack of logic.

We are being asked to believe that this president’s opposition to embryonic stem-cell research has deep moral, religious and ethical roots. As we heard, the word “murder” is tossed around freely.

Yet this is a president who led us into a war with a patchwork quilt of lies. Thousands of American soldiers have died. Thousands more have returned horribly wounded, and we don’t even know yet what toll posttraumatic stress disorder will take on those who obeyed their commander in chief and went to fight in Iraq. We may never know the complete death toll of Iraqi citizens, but we certainly know that some were raped and brutally executed. There have been many beheadings, sometimes of Americans who simply went to Iraq to help the people there, not to fight. Let us please not forget 26-year-old Nick Berg who was beheaded in May 2004. Where is President Bush’s grief over all those deaths? He directs his moral outrage instead to the idea of using fertilized eggs, that would otherwise be destroyed, for potentially life-saving scientific research. He tells us it’s because he cares so deeply about life.

more at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13939211/site/newsweek/page/2/


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:41 PM
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1. But dropping bombs
on civilian populations on a daily basis is not murder.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:46 PM
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2. Nope -that's just foreign policy
It's interesting how they can be so hard headed in the war room and so soft headed in the science laboratory.

Bryant
Check it out--> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:54 PM
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5. They just want to go back to the Dark Ages
which is fine with me. Go find an island or desert and do whatever you want, just leave the rest of alone.

Why should people be denied LIFE SAVING treatments because of one groups religous beliefs?

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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:11 AM
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21. Yep. And the
fact that * apparently does not get the morally bankrupt hypocricy of his statement yesterday is stunning.

Talking about a "moral" nation doesn't take innocent life - yeah, whatever. :eyes:
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:49 PM
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3. This veto is just plan stupid, on so many levels
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:51 PM
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4. It isn't about life. Big Pharma has high stakes in chronically ill people.
If all those people with lingering disease are cured, then how is Big Pharma going to pay its stockholders and its CEOs? Just think of the millions and millions of dollars in prescription meds that are ingested every day in America by people who are living with some kind of disease or another. You think Big Pharma is going to willingly let that golden goose die on the altar of ethical or compassionate behavior? Ha!

This stem cell veto has absolutely nothing to do with his base of fundies. That's just the icing on the cake, or, in bush's case, the barbecue sauce on the roasted pig. The true reason for the veto is to protect Big Pharma and their greedy investment in the long, lingering, painful futures of those cursed with debilitating diseases that require long-term medical care and most especially long-term medication regimens.

FUGWB.
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fordnut Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:26 PM
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10. You hit the nail on the head
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:51 AM
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16. You are so right
Chronic illness and disability is a growth market. Lots of the research is pointing to environmental triggers for many of these illnesses and absolutely nothing is being done to prevent illnesses. In fact, what had been done is being dismantled.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 06:57 PM
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6. I find it interesting and amusing that Ron and Nancy Reagan had two
flaming liberals as children while Ron and Jane Wyman had the two conservative kids.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:14 PM
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8. It is interesting and I don't
know if michael reagun should be called "conservative"..more like rabid dog fascist.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:12 PM
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7. If bush thinks "murder is wrong"..
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 07:17 PM by zidzi
why is he doing it? bush is one of the mass murderers of all time..everyone of those Soldiers' and Iraqis' deaths has their blood on his hands. Not just bush..it's on lieberman's and everyone who pushed for this war on Iraq.

Edit~ As an aside~ Did anyone see where tony snow thanked Helen Thomas for the "hezbollah view"?

"Thomas asked Snow why the U.S. recently vetoed an Arab-backed U.N. resolution calling for Israel to halt its military offensive in Lebanon. Snow claimed, “We didn’t even veto — please get your facts right.” Thomas followed up by specifically asking, “There was no veto at the U.N.?” Snow maintained: “No. There hasn’t been a resolution at the V.N. — the U.N., whatever it is.”

Snow’s the one who may need to check his facts. The AP reports:




http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/snow-to-helen-thomas-%e2%80%98thank-you-for-the-hezbollah-view%e2%80%99/

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:20 PM
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9. Patti posed NAKED.. (she is not to be trusted)
:sarcasm:

everybody knows that nudity is dangerous, ungodly and downright communistic..

If Gawd had wanted us to be naked, well.......

nevermind
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:36 PM
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11. Were *'s lips moving? That's always a sure sign.
That he was lying, of course.
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:02 PM
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12. They'd outlaw invitro fertilization if they really were against "murder."
Although prior to uterine implantation a fertilized egg is just that - a fertilized egg. It doesn't start dividing until it attaches to the uterine wall.

Too bad these guys REALLY know nothing about science - global warming, evolution, now this.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:56 PM
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13. Heh, a "web-exclusive". Won't see the print edition ever. (nt)
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:58 PM
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14. Only 23%, and most likely less
will follow Bush off the cliff, even if they know in their hearts he's wrong.

The rest of us (whether or not we use the internet), know the truth of what she wrote, without ever having to read it.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:00 AM
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15. Nice to see Patti Davis writing
Always liked her
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:24 AM
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17. Bush is like all conservatives
A cluster of cells is sacred. A living breathing human being is expendable. Hypocrisy is the norm.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:29 AM
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18. Hey, Dubya just wants to git'em born....
what happens after that is just not his problem, I mean, they're no longer "innocent," right?
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:49 AM
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19. Kudos, kudos, kudos -- fantastic opinion piece. n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:52 AM
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20. The real hypocrisy is that it's aokay for private companies
to do it. It seems to me that if, as Tony Snow says, the President thinks it's murder then he would also not allow private corporations to do 'commit murder' either. Hmmmmm....
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:11 PM
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22. I'm pretty sure that Pickles and W underwent IVF
to get the twins.

So, unless their extra embryos are now graduating from college somewhere, they are guilty of murder - not to help cure horrible diseases - but just to have kids.

Hypocrites.
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