Damn, I cant believe what Buchanan

[OwnedByFerrets]

is saying on Tweety. Strong words.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. And those strong words are....?

[bryant69]

2. Muscular?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[TomInTib]

3. About georgie not having the strength to stand up to the Israelis

Blasted the crap out of the little simian bastard.

[maxsolomon]

4. i dont know what he's saying

but i agree with him more times than i want to admit.

i have a populist, isolationist streak like pat.

[Mass]

5. I hope you dont have the racist, antisemitic streak as well.

[jonnyblitz]

6. don't leave out homophobic. nt

[Mass]

8. I forgot. The list is so long....

[OwnedByFerrets]

7. I find myself agreeing with about

20% of what he says. Its not enough to climb on his bandwagon.

[Mass]

10. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. However, we may want

to consider his motives before we start acclaiming him.

[voter x]

11. he could be quoting

directly from GD and GDP!

wow.

:puke:

[jonnyblitz]

17. his anti war stance always sounds right on to me ..

I hate to admit it I agree with him on something. I remember he wrote one of the best pieces against going to war in Iraq way in the beginning. It was being passed around DU at the time. but still...he gave a horrendously scary speech at the Houston GOP convention in 1992.:scared:

[cali]

9. No kidding,

I can't believe the number of people here swooning over Pat, even when they're confronted with all the openly anti-semitic shit he's said over the years, they excuse it by saying that he's right this time, as if that absolved him from being a racist pig.

Way to go, Duers.

[Howardx]

12. openly anti-semitic shit

like what?

[Mass]

14. like Hitler was not such a bad guy? (I am paraphrasing, but I can find

the exact quote).

Here is the link that shows you what a great person he is. If you agree with him, tell me. I will use the ignore on you.

http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/buchanan.html

[Howardx]

18. i'd like to see it

im wondering if the "openly anti semitic shit" is actually slurs on jews or merely disagreement with the policies of israel

[AlienGirl]

20. Considering the praise Buchanan has had for Hitler and the SS...

I do not think it is mere disagreement with current Israeli foreign policy.

Tucker

[Howardx]

22. show me the praise

if he said you should be able to provide a link.

[Mass]

23. I provided a link. Look by yourself.

[AlienGirl]

27. Some things actually exist entirely outside the internets...

But, here: http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/buchanan.html

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and
genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage...Hitler's
success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an
intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness
masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood
in his path." (The Guardian, 1/14/92)

Writing of "group fantasies of martyrdom," Buchanan challenged the
historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel
exhaust at Treblinka: "Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide
to kill anybody." (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan's columns have run in
the Liberty Lobby's Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter
and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist
concoction.

On March 2, 1992, at a campaign rally in Marietta, Georgia, where Rabbi
Avi Weiss called out, "Your anti-Semitism makes America last," Buchanan
shot back, "This rally is of Americans, for Americans and for the good 'ole
USA, my friends."

In the New York Post, March 17, 1990,Buchanan referred to a"so called
Holocaust survivors syndrome" which he described as involving"group
fantasies of martyrdom and heroics."

In 1990, before the Gulf War, Buchanan wrote that if the US went to
war, "the fighting would be done by kids with names like McAllister,
Murphy, Gonzales and Leroy Brown." The National Review (December 30, 1991)
commented that "There is no way to read that sentence without concluding
that Pat Buchanan was suggesting that American Jews manage to avoid
personal military exposure even while advancing military policies they
(uniquely?) engender."

Tucker

[dsc]

21. from the link

the one in the post you responed to

ON JEWS:

Buchanan referred to Capitol Hill as "Israeli-occupied territory."
(St. Louis Post Dispatch, 10/20/90)

During the Gulf crisis: "There are only two groups that are beating
the drums for war in the Middle East -- the Israeli defense ministry and
its 'amen corner' in the United States." ("McLaughlin Group," 8/26/90)

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and
genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage...Hitler's
success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an
intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness
masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood
in his path." (The Guardian, 1/14/92)

Writing of "group fantasies of martyrdom," Buchanan challenged the
historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel
exhaust at Treblinka: "Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide
to kill anybody." (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan's columns have run in
the Liberty Lobby's Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter
and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist
concoction.

Buchanan called for closing the U.S. Justice Department's Office of
Special Investigations, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals, because it was
"running down 70-year-old camp guards." (New York Times, 4/21/87)

Buchanan was vehement in pushing President Reagan -- despite protests
-- to visit Germany's Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi SS troops were buried.
At a White House meeting, Buchanan reportedly reminded Jewish leaders that
they were "Americans first" -- and repeatedly scrawled the phrase
"Succumbing to the pressure of the Jews" in his notebook. Buchanan was
credited with crafting Ronald Reagan's line that the SS troops buried at
Bitburg were "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration
camps." (New York Times, 5/16/85; New Republic, 1/22/96)

After Cardinal O'Connor criticized anti-Semitism during the
controversy over construction of a convent near Auschwitz, Buchanan wrote:
"If U.S. Jewry takes the clucking appeasement of the Catholic cardinalate
as indicative of our submission, it is mistaken. When Cardinal O'Connor of
New York seeks to soothe the always irate Elie Wiesel by reassuring him
'there are many Catholics who are anti-Semitic'...he speaks for himself. Be
not afraid, Your Eminence; just step aside, there are bishops and priests
ready to assume the role of defender of the faith." (New Republic,
10/22/90)

The Buchanan '96 campaign's World Wide Web site included an article
blaming the death of White House aide Vincent Foster on the Israeli
intelligence agency, Mossad -- and alleging that Foster and Hillary
Clinton were Mossad spies. (The campaign removed the article after its
existence was reported by a Jewish on-line news service; Jewish Telegraphic
Agency, 2/21/96.)

In his September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition, Buchanan
declared: "Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our
religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free." (ADL
Report, 1994)

[Howardx]

24. ok there ya go

i had not seen any of these remarks before

[dsc]

29. With all due respect it was hardly a labor of hercules

I simply went to the link the poster provided.

[Howardx]

31. with all due respect

when i made that statement the poster had not yet provided a link.

[AlienGirl]

33. Then maybe you should research a politician before supporting him

It's like the DHMO thing. People who do not research might fall for anything...even banning dihydrogen monoxide.

Tucker

[Howardx]

34. where did i support him?

all i asked was for people to provide links. not an uncommon occurance here on du

[Howardx]

25. i dont agree with him at all

but by all means put me on ignore. what a pathetic threat.

[cali]

28. Like this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1676572&mesg_id=1676980

[blonndee]

15. I haven't swooned. I think a lot of people are amazed

that someone in the corpmedia is taking his position, that's all. Or maybe you're right, some are swooning. I doubt they really know how racist he is.

[stepnw1f]

19. swooning over Pat?

who is swooning over Pat?

[hyphenate]

30. I think for me, regarding Buchanan

is that it's scary how much he is saying that we can agree with him on on GWB's failed policies. That doesn't make him a friend of the left, that doesn't mean he's not kneedeep in conservative values, but it does mean that he's not a neocon, and right now, he's one of the few on the right who hasn't gotten involved with all the shit the neocons and this administration have gotten us into.

It also means that he is someone who might be able to galvanize the right and the right of center folks who are clearly at odds with this illegal regime. If he, and others like him can influence people in respect to getting involved and ousting these assholes, it means that we might be able to return the right to its former position on the values of the right, and not teetering off the edge of the extreme right.

[cali]

32. He's a racist homophobic creep

I don't give a tinker's damn that he's not a neocon. That doesn't redeem him. I will never stand with such a person, even if he does say something I agree with, and I will never quote him.

[Balbus]

16. Oh, yeah? At what times do you agree with Pat Buchanan?

When he says segregation was a good thing? Or when he calls gay people the "the pederast proletariat" and that gays are filthy and are responsible for the decay in society? Or that women do not have the ambition and competitiveness to succeed in today's world? Or maybe when he says the culture of christianity is the superior culture?

[maxsolomon]

26. just the isolationist sentiments

and the quote in post 13.

i swear!

jesus h christ!

[jody]

13. Buchanan asked "How much must America pay for the education of this man?"

See "Where are the Christians?"

QUOTE
That Tel Aviv is maneuvering us to fight its wars is understandable. That Americans are ignorant of, or complicit in this, is deplorable.

Already, Bush is ranting about Syria being behind the Hezbollah capture of the Israeli soldiers. But where is the proof?

Who is whispering in his ear? The same people who told him Iraq was maybe months away from an atom bomb, that an invasion would be a "cakewalk," that he would be Churchill, that U.S. troops would be greeted with candy and flowers, that democracy would break out across the region, that Palestinians and Israelis would then sit down and make peace?
UNQUOTE