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blueinchicago Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:43 PM
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Are the fundies still here?
I grew up in a Charismatic Christian church. We were taught that as soon as the war between Israel and Canaan (Lebanon) started, Jesus would rapture the righteous.

So why are the fundamentalist Christians still here? Maybe Jesus isn't coming back for them after all.

Blue
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:45 PM
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1. I got dibs on their car
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:46 PM
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2. Great Bumper Sticker! (nt)
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:51 PM
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5. that was funny the first 10 times it appeared on a blog.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:53 PM
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6. So ignore it the 11th time
Or is someone forcing you to read this?
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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:46 PM
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3. Assuming it's not Bush or Cheney
I think we still have to await the arrival of the anti-christ before the
rapture.
There seems to be large scale vying for that treasured number 1 spot as 'leaders' from around the globe strut their stuff for the title 666.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:50 PM
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4. I believe the rapture is correct. Never heard you interpretation of
when it is to occur. From my reading the Bible, only God knows when rapture will be.
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blueinchicago Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:04 PM
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10. I recall
Jack Van Impe saying it in a pamphlet. Israel would be supported by the U.S. and Lebanon/Syria would be supported by the Soviet Union.

BTW, how come when a fundie "prophet" is always wrong, no one ever calls him on it. Hal Lindsay said the world would end in 1981, but he's just as popular as ever. Don't fundies ever doubt these guys?
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:40 PM
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14. to me, that would make him not a prophet, but someone with an
opinion. Prophets are never wrong, since they get their information from the source.

I haven't watched Van Impe in a long time. I've heard one say when Russia (Moscow) is ready to sweep into the Middle East, then the rapture is going to happen.

The funniest thing I heard was when one of them mixed end of the age prophecy with right-wingedness. Dig this. There was one time when Bill Clinton was on Time magazine. This particular partisan said that the "M" was unusually large as if to denote devil horns on the antichrist. This was the Prophecy in the News guy. Haven't really watched it since.

What I try to do is just keep my eyes on God. When things are to happen, they will.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:55 PM
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7. I have no interest
in spending an eternity with a god who thinks these fundies are righteous. But that's just me. :shrug:

Most cultures have creation myths. Most cultures have some kind of end of times destruction myth. Of course the end of times destruction myth for people who live in the mid-east would revolve around and event in the mid-east. Duh.

Whatever this is, it isn't the end of the world. If nukes start flying I doubt they will be aimed at South America, Canada, Africa, or Australia. Mankind will continue. We may be fucked but the human race will go on without us.

Now is a good time for me to re read "Canticle for Liebowitz." THe human race will survive.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:56 PM
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8. I've asked this before and I just have to ask it again
suppose the Rapture thing is real (and I do not, for one minute think it is) what if it's not the Fundies who get raptured but people like Jimmy Carter who are actually out doing something for people? I know a good many people who live their lives closer to what Christ taught than most the rapture nuts appear to do. A couple of these people I know are Agnostics but Jesus said "by their acts you'll know them" so I would think they might qualify.

It almost makes me wish there would be a Rapture so I could enjoy the reation of the wingnuts when they're "left behind". :evilgrin:
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blueinchicago Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:07 PM
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11. Yes
Me too. My brother wound up being an agnostic, but he did more to help people than any of the Charismatics in my old church ever did.

(That's why I eventually saw the "light".)
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:19 PM
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13. They wouldn't believe that's what it was, probably.
IF you buy into the "left-behinders'" interpretation, those who are left behind will not understand what happened, which will allow the "antichrist" to fool them into believing it was something else so that he can take power and everyone worships him.

So if your situation played out, then THEY would be the ones worshipping the antichrist, falsely thinking he is the messiah. Funny, that actually seems to be happening right now, now that I think about it.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:58 PM
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9. Well, if that's the case you'd have to argue
that the rapture actually happened in '47 ... or '82.

Or perhaps it's a phased redeployment of Xians.

Then there's the one that gives them pause: Isn't it a bit arrogant for the guy you're talking to to assume just because he's still there that all the real Christians *weren't* raptured last week?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:17 PM
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12. Actually, the whole rapture idiocy is based on the phrase
"will be taken." That was a euphemism for DYING.

These lunatics really think they're gonna be scooped out of their duds and sucked up to heaven NEKKID.

That is an hilarious twist on the original nineteenth century blasphemy. I'd pay to see it. Too bad it's all FICTION.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:41 PM
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15. I HATE people who act like modern Israel is the Israel in the Bible
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:59 PM
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16. Weren't they at war for a couple of decades?
The rapture should have happened some time ago. Maybe it did, but nobody who has been raptured has been missed.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:25 PM
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18. That means there are people who thought they would go but didn't
get picked.

Should we tell them? :evilgrin:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:19 PM
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17. They'll make up some excuse. They've been doing it for hundreds
of years.

Apocalyptics have been around a long time. Those that predict a specfic end time always end up with egg on their faces and end up hem hawing around.

The sad part is that the inmates are in charge of the asylum.

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