where is the democratic rapid response team...

[bridgit]

i am sick and have had a belly full of the republican party and it's insatiably whiny mouthpieces having a field day re-shaping the message while obfuscating truth & facts, they've been doing since before 2000, and dems just stand there.

it is not within 10min and they are out there accusing dems of lending joy & comfort to terrorism, while making america less safe from a lazy susan, looseleaf binder filled with ready made, unpatriotic chide & derision.

it is a disgusting display of political expediency and dems need a response to the republican response already in hand and waiting.

[madfloridian]

1. Please, please, no more of this today.

It has been overdone here lately. If anyone defends them, someone jumps down their throat. It is getting tiresome.

[bridgit]

2. then the message is gone bye bye message...

:hi:

[mom cat]

3. Don't go away. You made a good point. We DO need a well oiled

rapid responce team. I think that this is not a put down but a thoughtful suggestion.

[bridgit]

4. well i do think it's important, republicans have obfuscated since...

any dem utterance, almost one full news cycle, it is what they do the very best and woe imo unto the democratic strategist that doesn't understand that http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=167287&mesg_id=168683

repub'z just march out, literally, the likes of Victoria Clarke, who was a pentagon spokesperson and very used to these sort of blood sport; wind her up, along with the usual rabid suspects, and the game is afoot anew.

[upi402]

5. you're right. but TV news ignores libs and airs cons

we need a liberal tv news channel or no recovery of democracy can begin, i feel.

rethugs are the masters of propaganda, and we have sold our seat at that table vis-a-vis DINOs.

[bridgit]

7. there was a woman on tucker carlson tonight that was giving that...

dweeb a run for his money; carlson is an example of the pissy, negative, non-stop yapping that has perpetuated what we are seeing before us today disassembling america.

she had him balled up into knots, and that's a good thing. but she didn't accomplish that by sitting on her hands. she not only had something to say, she had something to say in response to his lunacy. and that is what will finally trip the rest of them up imo. having something to say in the face of their inane, disruptive, and ultimately socially unpopular programs.

you know why 'talk radio', and here read 'hate radio', is so so-called popular? it never stops talking. whether it's right or whether it's wrong it's point is to roll over the top, or up between the legs, of whatever opinion opposes them.

[mom cat]

16. We have to study the people who are able to talk these pit bulls

down. And we do need a coherent rapid responce team. Perhaps DUers could take that on! When we hear something that is a lie, we could start a rapid response thread and forward it to the Dem leaders. Once we have a good track record, they will pay attention.

[bridgit]

17. mom cat, please check your pm in a couple minutes if you would...

k? :hi:

[Peter Frank]

14. I Understand Your Sentiment but...

...if there's no constant response -- the truth is shouted down at the end of the day.

[rodeodance]

6. Gonzalas was sent out quickly Mon. nite to counter Gore speech--and no

leader Dems responded. nothing.

[Carni]

24. That totally pissed me off

God forbid should they align themselves with Gore (they might have to go out on a political limb) so far the only person I have heard back up Gore was Kerry and that was two days later when he was asked.

WHERE TF ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVES?

[Peter Frank]

8. I Totally Agree!!!...

...and am the first to recommend this thread (hopefully not the last).

The Democratic leadership needs a permanent war room -- a response team to anticipate, prepare, and deliver real-time replies to Republican accusations.

This should be a no-brainer!

[bridgit]

9. thank you for your post...

:hi:

[Peter Frank]

12. This a very serious matter...

The powers that be have tremendous resources at the ready (while controlling D.C.).

If the Democratic leadership ever wants to regain a portion of power, it must agitate immediately against the RW propaganda with undeniable facts, facts and more facts.

The longer lies linger without rebuttal -- the more believable the lies become. History has proved this, over & over.

Free thinking people across the world have always been at risk. Millions have died at the hands of "thought police." If we think this could not happen now -- we are being naive.

Traditional Americans (those of us who wave the flag of freedom in the spirit of our founding fathers) are at great risk from the influence of foreign money dumped into our current religious/political system.

The Abramoff scandal is puny compared to these machinations.

Here's a taste of what I'm speaking of -- http://www.liferepatterning.com/911theroadtotyranny.asf

The above video is packed with facts that every real American should want to know.

I'm going to need some help in documenting all the facts shown here for a another post.

[Heidi]

10. An official rapid response team is a necessity,

and we who support the Democratic party probably are actually paying people to act in that capacity. Where the hell are those spokespeople for the truth?

Thank you, bridgit. Kicked and recommended.

[KharmaTrain]

11. Power Of Incumbency

This is what you get when one party is in control of the government. It was a similar feeling in the late 70's that led the Repugnicans to gear up their propaganda machine...complaining (and some will say it was true) that the media was biased in favor of Democrats...but that was because they were in control of all the power at the time.

Having a Senator or Congresscritter attached to your name opens doors and media that being on the outside wouldn't. The Repugnicans have gotten very good over 25 years in developing the people to be in the places to comment on anything and everything (and be so kool-aided all they need are talking points) while Democrats have felt this type of media operation and combining it with their power to be "beneath them". Now they're paying for it...and to expect things to turn around quickly isn't going to happen.

Dr. Dean really needs to work on setting up some type of "booker" program, like the RNC has that requires their members to be available to going on talk shows and offering up newspaper quotes in minutes. The RNC gives out the cellphone and blackberry numbers...maintains studios...will drive people to studios to appear. This is just part of a how they get the message out. But it's not the reason they dominate.

It's like being on the road with the refs against you...it's a tough game, but with the right team and game plan, this can be overcome.

Problem is right now there's 1,000 different Democratic voices out there. Look at this place...is there one person (other than yourself) who you would spend out on these shows to speak for you consitently? I sure don't.

[kevinbgoode]

13. I'm sick of the talking point nonsense too. . .

and even sicker of the fact that Dems seem afraid to brand Republicans as "unpatriotic" for supporting a culture war and a "culture of corruption" while the nation is at WAR. This crap should be thrown back in their faces with ease, frankly. . .it isn't that difficult to do.

Instead, we worry too much about ethics, while the Republicans wage a war.

[bridgit]

15. i'm not going to be the one that compares Bush to Hitler, but we...

were watching a History Channel production about Hitler and the 3rd Reich last night.

in it, after the development of the storyline of Hitler as a wild eyed, WWI youth and nationalist, the re-establishment of German pride and industrialism; please do here read: military-industrial-complex, the slow/steady implementation of a host of what were even then understood by many & certain others to be 'criminal' policies in genus-form requiring great circumvention of truth & fact both, as well as state sanctioned street violence, the assemblies of staged citizenry amidst great displays of flag, country, nationalism, and military pomp & circumstance...the same ole simple observation of history was made by the producers of the program...

"by the time it happened the German people didn't even know they were going to war"

the genius of america is supposed to be such, that governmental check & balances, and enlightened debate were to have spared us such tyranny; even the g.w. bush sort of tyranny. and a Starbucks Coffee shop on every corner, while convenient, is no substitute for America imo.

nope, not me. i won't be the one to compare 'apples to oranges'. i'll let history draw her own conclusions.

[kath]

25. Read this, bridgit:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/20/12819/467

:scared: :scared: :scared:

[bridgit]

28. thanks for the link, i booked it...

:hi:

[Marleyb]

18. Great question...Great post!

why haven't they thought of this??

The idiot and chief and his immoral cabal should not be winning the war on words. We have truth and much needed justice on our side.

Someone else please nominate this thread?
This is important!

[bklyncowgirl]

19. Democrats love to put that finger to the wind and wait.

Alright, maybe I'm misjudging. Maybe Reid and Pelosi will truly unleash hell in their press conference today. Maybe Dean will pick up a verbal bat and beat the Republicans 'till they scream for mercy. Maybe this is all part of the plan.

Or am I just deluding myself.

For days the DNC website has been exactly the same. The DNC blogmeister appears to be on the road with Dean and more interested in cute chit chat about workers in a bookstore startled to see Howard Dean autographing his own book than in defending Al Gore, Jack Murtha or even Hillary Clinton for that matter.

The Republicans have speakers and talking points ready to go at a moment's notice. Democrats seem to think they can take their time. Problem is the early bird gets to frame the story. The guy who holds back gets to react to the other guy. Pardon the mixed metaphors and hopefully the Democrats will prove me wrong.

[European Socialist]

20. If the only media was C-Span, Dems do well--But they are poor at ...

getting the message out to where the people watch.

[bridgit]

21. i think the exchanges would do well to call our vaunted 4th estate...

into the mix, always clamoring for a back/forth, in/out, up/down, salt/pepper dust-up; they should be tagged for their part in having surrendered american journalism in the process.

[Beelzebud]

22. They're still figuring out how to respond to the swiftvets.

[sojourner]

23. there isn't one. rapid and dem appear to be antithetical concepts

um...not sure if i used antithetical correctly. but you get my drift...

[DeepModem Mom]

26. This should be a top priority. A Hillary quote or Mrs. Alito's crying...

becomes the top story forever, while the Bush cabal wreaks havoc on the known world each and every day. Dem war heroes are destroyed in the view of the public, while chickenhawks are passed off as tough. It's ridiculous. The media is dead against us, but we must at least try to work it better.

[DeepModem Mom]

27. Heck, WE could mount a rapid response based on research and sense...

if we had access and effective spokespeople. The media cards are stacked against us, but Dems should at least try to combat the Right Wing propaganda machine.

[baby_mouse]

29. Agree, darling.

They could do with some anticipation, the blues...

[bridgit]

30. baby_mouse, sup friend, and yes it is true: E-merge, there it is done...

a preexisting moment alluded to, anticipated. republicans ARE the elephant in the tea shop; if you can't see it's them busting up shit every time they turn around you're just plain not paying attention is my sense

:hi: hope all to be going well with you :pals:

[baby_mouse]

31. It bounces with potential, the baby_mouse life, my dear!

some little moneys, some more fun with nice man, some boxes of choccies, all is nice... xxx

:loveya:

Also, maybe WE should be the rapid response team.

Actually, maybe DU IS the rapid response team?

[bridgit]

32. heehee, plenty true plenty true enough as well, if ever

there were a group needed them some turning upside down & inside out it is these republicans here.

glad your life signs vital & mellow round the edges, that seems right to me :hug:

[DeepModem Mom]

33. kick

[mom cat]

34. This is a great idea...It could help me justify my addiction as a

web junkie. I am very interested in how we get the maximum value from our efforts. Keep me posted. PS..I saw your PM and am following through!

[Festivito]

35. Had one. Responded in seconds. Took a week to read the response.

Before the election.
CONs run 24/7,
with lies.
Lies are easier to speed response and speed attacks.

Truth takes more time.
Making succint takes mountains of effort.

We need bumper sticker responses for water cooler talk.

[bridgit]

36. you're right, republicans are playing to the ADD/swoosh factor...

between fauxnews, and now cnn segments; it is an advertising ploy but it does work, i agree