No-Fault Genocide?

[Behind the Aegis]

There is a tendency in these "politically correct" times to treat every problem as having two EQUAL sides. It's always "six of one - half-a-dozen of the other."

Perhaps it was born of the trend of "no-fault" divorce. As though EVERYTHING is always conveniently 50% one person's fault and 50% the other person's responsibility.

Now I'm not so foolish as to think that every divorce is always 100% one person in the wrong and the other side blameless. But neither is it always conveniently, exactly 50%-50%.

Imagine if they'd had the "No-Fault Divorce" principle in place at Nuremburg.

"On the one hand those Nazis did carry out genocide on 6 million Jews - but - on the other hand..."

On the other hand WHAT?

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[Bonobo]

1. On the other hand, it was a good move for the future Israeli lobby!

They knew if they could only get slaughtered by the millions, they would forever be able to use their ""Holocaust Badge" and rub it in the face of everyone. I, for one, am sick of it!


:sarcasm:

[SlipperySlope]

2. on the other hand

"the jews were taking up valuable space."

face it, if you are predetermined to find moral equivalence in everything, you will find a way to see it no matter how little it makes sense.

[Rex]

13. I'm amazed at the 5 year old behavior I'm seeing from grown adults on GD.

And I've seen a lot here. This "I'm right and your wrong" shit is getting old. Now I think it is just people who want to inflame the 'other side'. :eyes:

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. Couldn't have said it better myself. More from the article:

Israel is defending its right to exist - just as surely as you or I would defend ourselves, our parents, our children - if WE were faced with an enemy who openly declared that he wanted us and our family DEAD.

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In those circumstances - Israel has a moral duty and obligation to defend itself by eliminating - root and branch - those who have openly declared a desire to wipe it off the face of the earth. Unless and until those people unequivocally, publicly renounce their declared intentions and prove it by disarming under UN supervision.

Israel is fulfilling the moral obligation it has to pursue and destroy those who are firing missiles at its civilian population. The leaders of Hezbollah are not stupid. They ARE mendacious and cunning though. And they actually have utter contempt for those they purport to stand for. Why else would they position their missile launchers in residential homes and areas? Like a schoolyard bully hiding behind his mother's skirts. Talk about cowardice and contemptible behavior.

There will consequently - and most regrettably - be some loss of civilian life that occurs as a sad by-product of Israel eliminating the life-threatening missiles that are pointed at its nation. But that blood will be on the hands of those who abrogate all accepted rules of war (and moral precepts of humanity) - by embedding their militia and war materiel within the civilian population they claim to be serving. The cynical hands of Hezbollah will be drenched in Lebanese blood as well as Israeli blood. I guess that's just one of those things when your "spiritual" (sic - very sick) leader issues a call for what would be the genocide of Israel.<snip>

[MADem]

4. I've been making these very points for the last couple of days

...and getting a lot of shit for it, too, here, I must say.

But I'm not budging in my sense of the situation, though I'll cheerfully critique Israel on other issues.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I know. Just be careful.

I've made 2 people's "ignore list" today.... I wear it as a badge of honor.;) I can understand certain critism of Israel, but when it's ALL Israel's fault and Hezbollah is "not unjustified" in what it did to start this....THEN I have a problem with the anti-Israel people. Personally, I didn't like Sharon. I thought he was bad for Israel and I'm adult enough to admit it, yet some people can't find ANYTHING good about Israel.

It's all or nothing.

[MADem]

8. Yep, I still have my shorts in a twist over the Liberty

and that is based on knowledge of miitary procedure and eyewitness accounts of the events of that day, so I am by no means an unquestioning supporter of the state....but in this instance, I cannot blame the Israelis for not putting up with any shit.

I find the arguments about how they got there pointless, frankly. The history exists, it should be acknowledged and admitted, and then it's time to move on and make do with what exists now. They aren't leaving any more than Americans are leaving (because the ones who turned up here years before MY people ever landed were rotten to slaves and natives, you see!).

And when they finally do something positive, it is as if no good deed goes unpunished. They finally get their asses out of the old Green Zone after two decades of occupying their neighbor, with a plan to inserting the Lebanese Army in place instead, but we saw how that worked out, or didn't. Those UNIFIL observers were frigging USELESS, and the LA never made it--the Hizb'Allah did, instead.

And Hiz'b'Allah!!! There's a whole cadre of folk who think those guys are glorious "freedom fighters." They should sit down with Robin Higgins, the widow of the Colonel those bastards hung, and get some perspective. Or they could talk to the families of the 241 Marines who were blown up by those assholes. I was on the receiving end of shooting and bombing from bums like that, and let me tell you, the only freedom they are fighting for is the freedom for them to impose their sick, repressive theology on people who don't think the way they do. Their starry eyed supporters don't get it that the charitable and political arms are a totally different entity than the militia--the militia are ruthless psychopathic bastards, who will kill their own children to support their foolish "cause."

Oh well, whatchagonna do?

[k_jerome]

6. excellent article. thanks. nt.

[DanCa]

7. I just want all the killing to stop

On both sides.

[ThomWV]

9. No-fault Car Insurance Predates No-fault Divorce

If you're looking for the origin I think Florida passed "no-fault" automobile insurance sometime before no-fault divorce became so popular.

[voter x]

10. bump

:grouphug:

[Meshuga]

11. Awesome article and...

...recommended! And a way to kick it up. :-)

[voter x]

12. and there ya go....

:bounce:

[Wonk]

14. Every single comment there is flagged *abusive*. What's up with that?

Did the author preemptively set that flag for all comments? Just to remind readers that Israel is always the victim, never the victimizer, regardless of the civilian bodycount?

[Behind the Aegis]

15. That is the way the site is set up!

It is a hyperlink so someone can report an abusive report...way to jump to an idiotic conclusion! :eyes:

[Wonk]

16. Ok, so in addition to disagreeing with much of the content

I don't like the formatting.

The author's basic premise is all blame lies with the Arabs, none with the Israelis. I say there's plenty of blame to go around, on all parties killing civilians, and that includes Israel.

[Meshuga]

17. Blame the webmaster

Because I think the link on that page is meant for the same purpose as the 'ALERT' link here in DU. You are just looking for ways to disqualify that site since you don't agree with its content.