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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:33 AM
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An Email from a friend in Lebanon
Recived this email, thought I would pass it on as it shows one dear sisters view from "on the ground" in Lebanon.

Salam dear all,

Jazakum Allah kheir for your emails. I am sorry I couldn;t send personal emails because of the situation here. Elhamdulilah I am in a safe place at least or trying to be, still don;t know where the bomb would hit though! the Israelis are going unbelievably crazy.. at least we escaped the place where I live in (Haret Hreik), there are concentrated attacks there, my area is now almost like a deserted land! The destruction is immense... bridges, infrastructure, power plants, Gas plants, houses, civilians and they even are targeting the red cross buildings!! to prevent rescue or even the ambulances to remove the dead
bodies! you can never imagine the horror that the country is passing through... What is more unbelievable is that no country and no United Nations and nobody is preventing these massacres! one of the big massacres that occured in the last 2 days was people in a village in South Lebanon were asked by the Israelis to evacuate the village, the
people (a big group) decided to seek help in a United Nations Building there. The officers inside the UN building did NOT open the doors for them! the people were seeking shelter, mostly are kids and women. The group left and they were targeted by Israeli planes and all killed
except a girl 12 years old who told the trajedy.

I have no idea what is going on in the world? why is the world soo silent?? and what is the end of all this?

The good part though is that Muslims here, Masha Allah, are so much believing in victory granted by Allah. This is the amazing thing! subhan Allah.. I am obviously much more scared cz I haven't lived in Lebanon most of my life, but the lebanese people seem to be much more patient and more determined to support their cause till the last drop
of blood in their bodies. One of the scenes on TV that moved me immensly (I am sure those who watch Arab channels saw that)... The rescue group were moving the dead bodies from a falling building ( a red cross building), they took a man's body out who was covered in
cement and blood, the man (who used to be from the rescue team himself) came out saying (Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar) then jumped out of the carrying cart and said " Innna Hizballah hom Al-ghaliboun" (a
Quranic verse saying the party of Allah are the victorious) then he started helping the others in moving the rest of the bodies under ruins with his scars and pains!!!! masha Allah the belief and determination of those Muslims is unbelievable among all this mass killings and
destruction...

Another good thing is the unity our diverse country is going through..

Masha Allah people give their numbers on the TV and offer families to move in with them because there are many areas that are being evacuated, one of which is my area. I am staying now in a majority Christian area and elhamdulilah it is much safer and the people here
are really nice and cooperative. I don;t know when and if I can leave the country now, it is closed by sea, land and air. The Israeli monsters completely destroyed our airport and most of sea ports and they keep bombing the land exits.. Mainly people who manage to leave are those with European or American passports.

If there is something you can do to help is keep us in your prayers and du'aa and pray for the Muslims fighting against this terror and for justice for the whole Muslim Umma, and for peace for those families who have lost their members.. May ALlah increase us all in faith.

salam
katrin
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CuteNFuzzy Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:44 AM
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1. Thank you Psycho Dad
Please tell your friend Alaykum Salam.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:45 AM
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2. "Another good thing is the unity our diverse country is going through."
That speaks volumes.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:04 AM
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8. Indeed...
I was both surprised and encouraged to see that Christian Lebanese were helping the Muslim refugees with housing.

It wasn't so long ago that they were fighting each other.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:46 AM
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3. honestly his post is just plain friggin scary
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 02:47 AM by Skittles
the emphasis on religion reminds me of why unrest in the Middle East will NEVER end
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CuteNFuzzy Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:48 AM
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4. Fundamentalism is worse here
(in the U.S.)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:50 AM
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5. I'd say it's GETTING worse
and Middle East-style politics is where it is HEADING
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:53 AM
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6. That is truly what I took from it too.
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 02:54 AM by Bluebear
Victory by the grace of Allah, victory in Christ Jesus, victory victory victory. The superreligious really seem to get off on war. :(
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:57 AM
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7. And now the Lebanese are getting a Nationalistic Self Defense
refresher course, religions be damned. Does "We're under attack, rally together and do as the leader says!" sound familiar?
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CuteNFuzzy Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:06 AM
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9. The difference above
is that these are victims of war crimes, not the perpetrators. Victims often turn to religion in search of comfort
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:37 AM
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17. that's the problem
the perpetrators AND victims use religon to justify their position...in the end there is no compromise
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:48 AM
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11. In our Christology,
victory in Christ implies victory over sin in one's life, by becoming like Him moment by moment, which is to attain Godliness (theosis). Not exactly victory over our brothers & sisters. Not exactly victory in winning a temporal war. I know--some of the appearances of 'Christianity' today is way far from that. Please forgive me, my brothers & sisters.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 07:57 AM
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15. You are not the one who needs forgiveness.
As for those pseudo-Christians who should probably be asking for forgiveness, they are too arrogant to recognize they need forgiveness for their deeds.

You make a wonderful point about the true nature of being Christ-like, and you say it well.

Welcome to DU. :hi:
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:17 AM
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27. Thanx
and :hi: back atcha!

I didn't want to say 'my Christology', but the teachings of the tradition of Faith which I embrace. I DO act up at times, and may say uncharitable stuff that offends, so I wanted to begin to ask forgiveness in general in the spirit in which I should be residing.

My heart is now more greatly burdened by the current situation in ALL of the ME. I must still latch onto hope, for without it, I'm a lost cause.

P_P

:dem:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:39 AM
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18. please do not say OUR
a lot of us simply do not believe in such nonsense
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:44 AM
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20. I believe the poster was referring to "their" Christology
not trying to include all of "us" into "their" belief system.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:45 AM
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21. ah
that would be more acceptable
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:54 AM
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25. And please refrain from
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 10:55 AM by Kajsa
calling other people's faith " nonsense".

You have a right to believe ( or not believe) you you choose,
without ridicule or scorn,

and so do those of us who are persons of faith.

btw; Please don't confuse me with
the RR. I consider them heretics!

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:32 AM
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29. kind of creeped me out too
:scared:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:42 AM
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10. Shameful...
I have no idea what is going on in the world? why is the world soo silent?? and what is the end of all this?

Have we all turned into indifferent animals? This is an outrage...


:cry:

All I can do is weep...
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:43 AM
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13. With Bush, The Freepers, The NeoCons, and Fundamentalists
In charge, what can we do.

We abdicated to them long ago by letting them win (steal) the elections.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:43 AM
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19. we have no credibility anymore
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 10:50 AM by alyce douglas
and our stand in the world has diminished so badly, there was a time when the US served as a mediator to get both parties to talk and have a ceasefire or resolution of some kind. Now with this deadly regime, we have no standing in the world.

Who can we send in????? Wes Clark, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and the one person who always seems to get in the middle of things is Rev. Jesse Jackson. This is so unfortunate and all of us can see, Isreal with the backing of the US is doing all of this.

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:43 AM
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12. "why is the world soo silent?? "
Yes, why?

The only people speaking out in outrage are peace groups and labor in Iraq and Pakistan -- you know the "looney left-wing extremists" who hate killing innocent people. And Dennis Kucinich introduced a resolution calling for a cease-fire yesterday.

The answer to "why" the world is silent is that the most powerful nation in the world is behind the violence and there is NO ONE to stop it.

We just have to watch murder take place in slow motion.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:52 AM
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24. right on we have no credibility can you believe
at one time we were the peacekeepers. That is why the world is so quiet, our role in the world has gotten tarnished and has deteriorated.
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:30 AM
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28. *They'll* see just how 'looney' the left extremists
that choose peace are when it all comes out in the wash. And it will. I have a feeling in my bones that in the not too distant future, righteousness WILL prevail.

P_P

:dem:
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 07:27 AM
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14. You know, during the holocaust the world feigned "ignorance"
including the US eventhough there is evidence that most knew what was going on. There is no such excuse today. The entire world can plainly see what is going on in Lebanon and can see who is responsible for the massacre. I, for one, do not believe that just because the world can remember the past suffering of Jews in under the Nazis Israel should now be allowed to behave so inhumanly and inflict such destruction and terror on another people.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:49 AM
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22. I hate it when people feign "ignorance".
Or make up "justifications" for completely immoral behavior.
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:28 AM
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16. Another e-mail from the Holy Land
I received this a couple of days ago - it's a forward of an e-mail sent from a Methodist missionary serving in Palestine.

Dear Friends,



I have received many emails just since yesterday from people concerned about my safety. Thank you all so much. It’s nice to be remembered. It’s also nice to know that the US is finally reporting on something other than the Miss Universe Pageant and Iraq! I see the same news here via internet on BBC, CNN, Reuters etc. and I am a bit concerned that certain stations are playing on peoples’ emotions by showing Israeli families weeping over lost or injured family members while the Lebanese are shown with weapons or simply standing on the streets. There is tragedy all around! If you look at the simple numbers of casualties there are many more Arab women weeping than Israelis. The government of Lebanon is too weak to deal with Hizbollah. Iran and Syria are holding back together. Regarding the disaster in Gaza, entire families (16-20 at a time!) are being wiped out with shelling all night long. (I will include an attachment that was just released by Sabeel today on the situation in Gaza.) Meanwhile, Israel continues to pound the hammer down on innocent civilians. People are dying here on all sides. The UN is calling for intervention and the US keeps vetoing. Are you ready to stand up and say, “Enough!”? According to the recent CNN poll the majority of Americans think Israel is using excessive force. Fine. But thinking it will not stop them! (There’s a challenge there.)



Meanwhile, for those who asked, a personal update: I was in Haifa on Sunday to go to mass and bring a Greek Catholic deacon back to Jerusalem with me. I had spent the night in one of the nearby villages and was in my car following the Bishop and the deacon into Haifa to the church. (I get hopelessly lost in Haifa!) We had to pass by the port area on the main road. Suddenly there were three big blasts. The bishop’s driver pulled over so I followed. Just then we saw smoke begin rising from the warehouse just off to the right of our cars. The warehouses had been hit. This was the beginning of two days of heavy shelling. The air raid sirens began, ambulances started rolling, people on their cell phones rushing for the shelters (every building has one here). We got to the church and the poor deacon (who is from Germany and has only been here for a few months) was really in a panic. Yusef, the Bishop’s driver, and I tried to calm him. Yusef lives in Haifa and has been through this many times. Since Israel was still at war with Lebanon when I first moved here in ’94, (about ½ hour drive from where I lived) I was not unfamiliar either. I lived in Bethlehem for years with tanks rumbling past my door (they drove right over my landlady’s car!), and where I had to sleep in the hallway to avoid the bullets going past the bedroom windows. That’s life here. You just pray hard and keep your head down! So we watched and waited at the entrance to the church. The sirens went off several times during the next half hour. Needless to say, no one showed up for mass!



After about 45 minutes we could hear the shells beginning to hit Akko across the bay, so I grabbed the deacon, got him into the car, and we headed out of town. It was a great day to be driving in Haifa. No traffic! I told the deacon (who could not even sit still in his seat, looking here and there for shells to fall on our heads, poor man) that we would take the road through the Jordan Valley since it would be safer than the coast road. What I didn’t tell him is that we would have to cross the country to get there and pass through Nazareth and Afula along with a few other towns before getting to the valley! (Nazareth and Afula both got hit.) The thing about Qatusha rockets is that, although they are small and deadly, they are horribly inaccurate. They wobble in the wind and are hard to aim. Consequently the surrounding villages are also at risk. (My daughter’s friend is from the Palestinian village of Kfar Yasif which is near Akko. It got hit as well.)



Meanwhile, the Israeli army, navy and air force are supplied with the best that American taxes can provide. They are pounding the Lebanese with heavy bombs and missiles that are as high-tech as you can get. Hundreds of civilians have been killed or wounded. It is not a war when one side has all the firepower. It’s an annihilation. Just look at the numbers. Look at Gaza. Look into the eyes of a mother who has lost her whole family in one blast. Look at the little boy in Haifa who is wandering the street wondering where to hide. Then ask yourself, is this justice? Is this mercy? Is this the “love one another” rule that all our religions teach us?



There’s a great song that came to mind as I was driving back to Jerusalem sung by Sweet honey in the Rock. It goes:

“Lord, must I do unto others before they do unto me? Oh Lord, this is not the lesson that I learned on my mother’s knee when she taught me to do unto others only what I’d have them do unto me.”



Now there’s a lesson! Too bad the people with the explosives aren’t paying attention.



As I lie in bed at night here in Jerusalem I can hear the bombers flying over on their way to Gaza, only an hour away. I can hear the explosions. I can hear the bombers returning to base. It is the same war that has been waged here for thousands of years; only the players have changed and the weapons grown more deadly. So we pray. After all, this is the land of miracles. We read, “Let justice roll down like water and mercy like a never-ending stream.” And we remember that when you pray from the Holy City, it’s a local call!



In God’s hands,
Janet





UM Mission Personnel in Palestine

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:52 AM
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23. I wish
that I felt like my prayers would make a difference. :(

I'll pray anyway.

Peace.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:59 AM
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26. we are killing so many people
Iraq, Afghanistan and deaths in 9/11, Katrina, how many more??? death and destruction is what this regime fuels itself on.

No one should be suffering like this, no one, how can we stand idly by and watch innocent people get massacred. This is not humane at all, just my frustration coming out.
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