Holy War much?

[QuettaKid]

This picture pretty much sums up the problem right here. How can you go wrong, or be doing anything wrong, with "G-d" on your side? Right there next to your big guns......and YES if I could find a picture of a mullah standing next to heavy artillery I would say the exact same thing applies to them as well. Hezbollah is a little camera shy these days however....

[Freedom_from_Chains]

1. So, are they looking up coordinates, or just general directions

on defeating the zionist enemy?

[datasuspect]

2. maybe trying to find biblical justification

for genocide?

[INDIA]

6. Genocide?

:eyes: Genocide is a term reserved for the worst of the worst intentional extermination of human life. I hate to throw out numbers that used to be human lives, but 300 people killed is not genocide, especially since a good number of them were probably Hezbolla.


Were the train bombings in India genocide? Was September 11th genocide? No, they were attacks that killed people.

If you use a word like that too much it starts to lose its meaning.

[datasuspect]

15. so how many then?

10,000?
100,000?
1,000,000?

what's the magic number?

or does anyone else's pain and suffering simly not qualify? especially those pesky brown people?

oh, i forgot, history didn't exist prior to this latest clusterfuck in the middle east.

[INDIA]

16. This is all my opinion of course...

but here it goes. A genocide has two things, 1. A grotesquely high body count of innocent men women and children. 2. Those doing the killing must be doing so to achieve a certain ideological aim, namely, wiping out a certain people that they don't like.

Israel isn't randomly bombing apartment buildings to kill Muslims. Innocent people are certainly dying, and war is horrible, but it is the IDF's intention to wipe out Hezbollah, who DOES have the ideological aim of killing all Jews in the ME. If it wasn't for the restraint and advanced technology of the IDF, this campaign could easily be 100 times worse.

My grandfather was a bombardier over Germany in WWII. Because of technology at the time, innocent people dying during attacks on factories and rail yards were almost guaranteed during every mission. The civilian death toll from Allied bombings was in the hundreds of thousands, even millions. Did he commit genocide? Of course not. If you believe that...no, you couldn't be stupid enough to believe that.

[voter x]

24. why don't we start at

6,000,000 and start counting backwards....

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[Swamp Rat]

10. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Jacobin]

12. Um, so you think all Lebanese are terraists?

And you do know that Smirky just ran Syria out of Lebanon, and before they were run out, they had a relative clamp on Hezbollah.

[Jacobin]

13. Looking at their holy book to find coordinates for the

new boundaries of the country Gawd gave them.

[Homer Wells]

3. Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade!!!

nt

[datasuspect]

4. salaam/shalom

aye yai yai

[Tesha]

5. "And 'five' shall be right out!!" (NT)

[QuettaKid]

7. Pythons were the only true prophets of the 20th century.

Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."

[magellan]

8. True, true, says the People's Front of Judea

We ARE different!

[Swamp Rat]

11. The Judean People's Front!

[Tsiyu]

14. This picture shows the absolute sickness of the human soul

This is medieval behavior, not a scene of modern, thinking, rational humans.

Kill. Kill. Kill. Is that what their god tells them to do?

They should be in mental institutions, not plotting the deaths of other men, women and children.

I do not agree with Hezbollah, but I am just sickened by the Israeli disregard for life.


"We're the chosen ones. Woopeee!! Let's kill something. But first - a short prayer!"

[QuettaKid]

17. The Dark Ages never really ended. . . .

that photo is all the proof you need.

[INDIA]

18. I don't know where you see ...

"the absolute sickness of the human soul" in this picture. A little dramatic maybe? Every military force, including the U.S. has chaplains of different faiths among their ranks. The U.S. for instance has Muslim, Jewish, Christian and Mormon chaplains, among others, who help to calm and confer with scared young kids, often with a quick prayer or scripture reading from the Torah, Bible, Koran, whatever. These are obviously young Jewish men, having a Rabbi reading the Torah during a frightening time. Is this somehow sick???? Oh brother...
:eyes:

Believe me, it isn't the Israelis killing in the name of Yaweh here. I doubt they yell "Yaweh is great!" everytime they lob a shell into Lebanon. They are fighting to protect a country, not advance a religion against "infidels." Meanwhile on the other side of the border...not so much.

[Tsiyu]

19. When Bombs and Bibles are bedfellows

that is human sickness.

People's ridiculous beliefs and superstitions have caused more death through the ages than can be numbered.

Has Israel loved its neighbors as it loves itself? Has it been a good neighbor or has it been a bully?

Killing hundreds for the capture of two soldiers is an abomination. Killing innocents in the name of your alleged god is a SICKNESS.

Even many Israelis themselves are disgusted by their violent government.

And "on the other side" are people- actual HUMAN BEINGS - who did not start or escalate this conflict.

By your logic, should the Arab world be allowed to bomb the U.S. to smithereens because our leaders are warmongering dipshits?

[INDIA]

20. wow...

"Has Israel loved its neighbors as it loves itself? Has it been a good neighbor or has it been a bully?"

Israel has been attacked by it's good neighbors in three separate wars plus countless rocket and terrorist attacks in the last fifty years. You wanna tell me ISRAEL is the bad neighbor? If Israel's neighbors simply allowed her to exist without violence, the IDF would never fire another shot in anger. That's all they want, to exist. By killing people trying to take their existence away, (Hezbolla), they are unfortunately killing some innocents.


"Even many Israelis themselves are disgusted by their violent government."

83% of Israelis, a pretty progressive and peaceful bunch in my opinion, think the action is justified according to a recent poll. I would take their word over yours or mine.

"Killing innocents in the name of your alleged god is a SICKNESS."

You are one hundred percent correct. I wish Islamic terrorists would stop doing this, because the IDF is certainly not killing in the name of any god, they are a legitimate military force under the control of a sovereign nation. They carry out actions in the name of Israel, not God.


"And "on the other side" are people- actual HUMAN BEINGS - who did not start or escalate this conflict."

Yes, you are correct on this one. Most Lebanese did not directly attack a sovereign nation. It's horrible to see innocent people die. But their government most certainly allowed a terrorist organization, Hezbolla, to attack a sovereign nation from within its borders for many years, specifically the last six. By any letter of the law, they are accountable.

[Tsiyu]

21. If you can discount the atrocitites that have been committed against

Palestinians - and there are many, many documented instances of Israeli aggression, human rights abuses against imprisoned children, the list goes on and on - then you are blind.

Israel is not the victim it always likes to pretend to be.

What happened to goddamned common human sense? The Israelis have now killed ten times as many Lebanese as have been killed in Israel in this latest conflict.

There is no thought whatsoever in what is being done. Only hatred.

I believe in defending my property as well, but i'm not going to kill my neighbor's kids for his idiocy.

[QuettaKid]

22. I think India3

might be one of the sharkjumpers.

[Tsiyu]

23. Seems a distinct possibility

But what would i know? Godless liberal that I am.