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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:38 AM
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Commenter on "Truth Dig" Nail's Bush's History of Bizarre Behavior!
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 09:53 AM by KoKo01
This is from poster "ROOTH" in reply to a Robert Sheer article. I think "comments" to articles can be posted in full...but if Mods feel it doesn't meet DU rules, I will edit. It sure sounds like "substance abuse" when one goes through all his bizarre ravings.

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Comment #14401 by roooth on 7/19 at 6:50 pm

Bush - Stoned? Drunk? Coked out of his Brain? Medicated? Presidential Tester for the Pharmaceutical Industry? You Decide..........

Bush is fried. He’s either drinking, snorting, smoking, medicated, or some combination of all of them.


Watch his gibberish at the G8, especially the bizarre stuff about how long the plane flights to various countries are, he sounds just like someone who is more than half looped: “Gotta go home. Gotta do sumthin tonight. Get ona plane. Go home. It’s a long flight. How long is your flight? That’s a long flight. Your country is big. His country is big too. Gotta go home. Yo, Blair, you goin’ home?”

This is the kind of mindless drivel that drunks who can’t shut up drone on with. They just keep running their mouths, totally disconnected from the non-verbal clues of the people around them.

Watch the press conference where Bush couldn’t stop talking about the pig roast. It didn’t matter what anyone asked him, he just kept saying whatever his addled brain was looping on, in this case, eatin’ him some pig. Typical stoned behavior. It reminded me of the time Bush went to Canada and couldn’t get off the subject of the mouth one of the Canadian Prime Minister’s staff members: “You’ve got a purty mouth.”, he said. Not once but over and over. “You’ve sure got a purty mouth.” And, “Your mouth is prettier than my Scott’s mouth.” (The poor guy’s name was Scott. Bush’s “Scott” was press secretary Scott McClellen.) Am I missing something here? Which staff member has the purttiest mouth? Who acts like this? Outside of bars or institutions, I mean.

Watch Bush’s body language at the table with Britain’s Tony Blair talking over his shoulder. Bush is sitting, almost slouched back in his chair, like a guy at a barbeque on his second or third 6-pack, chomping on his food with his mouth open, making minimal effort to intelligently keep up his end of the conversation by occasionally throwing in something he mistakenly thinks is sufficient to constitute a dialogue. What seems to be obsequiousness from Blair may actually be him simply trying to get through the fog around Bush’s brain to penetrate with a little reality.

Watch the body language of the other leaders and the way they react to Bush. With the exception of Blair, notice how they act very distant and controlled around him, maintaining a public facade of geniality while holding back from actually being engaged with him. Some of them, Like German Chancellor Merkel, look as if they are barely tolerating him. Meanwhile, Bush’s social modus operandi with other world leaders seems to boil down to his overuse of forced jocularity and feigned intimacy to convey a relationship that does not exist.

Is there any world leader who addresses Bush with back-slapping and condescending nicknames?

When he walked up behind the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, and started giving her an unsolicited shoulder massage, her body tightened up and she actually grimaced and literally shrugged him off. Before that Bush can be seen wandering aimlessly around the room while the rest of the grown-ups were conducting the business they were there for. He didn’t even notice Merkel’s reaction to him, he had already moved on, the elitist, aging, ex-frat boy, circulating the party with his buzz on, completely oblivious, smug with satisfaction at just how cool he knows he is.

This is not normal behavior in a 60 year old man, especially one in this kind of position.

A sure sign of substance abuse is extreme variations in the abuser’s ability to perform normal functions, relate to others, and cope under stress. Bush’s behavior and ability to speak coherently varies radically in his unscripted appearances. Watch Bush closely sometime when he’s having trouble staying coherent and you can see his eyes come in and out of focus. He does it at the table when Blair is speaking to him and he’s looking out across the room as he chomps open-mouthed on his food. Although he is never a good public speaker, sometimes he’s at least coherent, other times he looks like staying focused long enough to get a sentence out is almost painfully beyond him. These are the times he does those odd prolonged pauses where he searches for words, mangles phrases and seems to get mean-drunk angry when anyone dares to question him.

And then there are the times when he is just off-the-wall bizarre.

What I saw in the table-side exchange between Blair and Bush was this: Bush’s posture, lax facial muscles, garrulous, sophmoric speech, and, yes, the mindless way he shoved food in his mouth and chomped with his mouth open, plus what he said, all gave the distinct appearance of someone under the infuence of something. Blair’s tone with Bush is concilliatory and patient, he leans over Bush and seems to be attempting to get through to Bush in spite of the state he is in. He seems to be trying to guide Bush’s thoughts, while Bush chomps away and fades in and out of focus.

I’ll say it again; the man is stoned or medicated. And has been for awhile.

This goes a long way to explaining how he is so incredibly disengaged from the devastating effects of the damage he is responsible for; he is too far out of it to relate to the human costs of his actions. Drunks and addicts are largely incapable of empathy, everything is about them and their next high. They are never responsible for the harm they do. Nothing is ever their fault. They are always the victims. Bush doesn’t ever think he’s done anything wrong.

This also explains how he can be so unaware of everything going on around him, i.e., his job. When Cheney shot that old man in the face, days later Bush acted as if he had just found out. Same with New Orleans, it was obviously days after Hurricane Katrina struck before it even entered his consciousness, and that was only because a staff member finally screwed up enough courage to make a DVD of newsreports and make Bush to watch it.

Think about that for a minute, the president makes so little effort to know anything, even about major disasters, that it took days before a staff member finally got up the nerve to make him wake up to the fact that an American city lay in ruins.

How is that possible? Bush knew the hurricane was coming, he was warned that it could, probably would, devastate the city, reporters follow him everywhere and they certainly knew what was goiing on. His staff knew. So how is it possible that Bush did not know the severity of the damage caused by Hurricane Katrina? This is how: by establishing a practice of refusing to participate in the events around him, and enforcing that practice by punishing anyone who disrupts his carefully controlled world view, that’s how. Bush is notorious for becoming furious at anyone who brings him news at odds with what he wants to know. People around drunks and addicts learn very quickly to avoid aggravating them when they are altered.

When Bush stood amidst the ruins of New Orleans with bodies lying dead in the flood waters just a few streets away, his response was to reminisce about partying there. When faced with death and destruction that he did nothing to stop, Bush’s brain looped back to being high, partying in New Orleans. Instead of death, he thought about the pleasure of partying and left all the depressing stuff for others to deal with.

It’s now a year later, Bush just went through a European diplomatic trip smashed and stupid, and New Orleans is still in ruins. I bet he doesn’t even think about it anymore. (Just like Osama, he doesn’t think about him anymore either.) If someone brought New Orleans up to Bush now, I bet he’d be surprised that it’s still in ruins.

There are bizarre internet rumors of a personal portable toilet for Bush to use when overseas. The rumor is that this is to prevent foreign chemical analysis of his excrement. (deleted link). Normally I would blow this off as some of the wilder of conspiracy theories, but watching Bush’s actions over the last week, I can’t help but wonder, to what lengths would those around him go to hide it if he is smashed most of the time? If he is too incapacitated to serve? Who could or would step up and do anything about it? The people around him are not people willing to part with the power they have granted themselves. These are also not people willing to admit that their golden boy is a dangerous, sick failure.

With Bush at the top of the chain and out of the loop, or just plain looped, who is holding anybody below him accountable?


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060718_robert_scheer_bush_open_mike/

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:46 AM
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1. That pretty much sums it up
Its too bad we don't have news media in this country, because this is obviously the biggest story there is. Bar None. It explains all the rest of the news.

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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:26 AM
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2. fantastic summation of GW Hoover's sociopathic behavior. (n/t)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:32 AM
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4. nailed it
I laughed out loud reading that piece and then was horrified at the reasons I was laughing. This drugged up idiot has control of THE BUTTON!!!
Spot on analysis. As someone who has hung out with a vast number of "medicated" people under the influence of anything you can think of I have to concur that our pres is blotto.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:39 AM
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5. I don't think he's really in control of "the button."
He doesn't have the final say. No way. Cheney does.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:41 AM
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6. That is even scarier
because I'm pretty sure he wants to use it.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:19 AM
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15. cheney is on the dark side
they are letting bush play his role, with religion to get the sheeple behind him. Religion is very dangerous and we all can see what happens.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:37 PM
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46. I think Cheney keeps the actual "football"
He gives Shrub a device like a Fisher-Price toy, with big friendly buttons, lights and sound effects.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 03:27 AM
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55. Here's another button that he's NOT in control of...
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 03:28 AM by Cronus Protagonist
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:30 AM
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3. At least part of the personal portable toilet rumor is quite true
They do carry around a portable toilet for him to use (always takes his own chef, too). They say it's for 'security reasons', though.

Right. First president that ever did that, as far as I know.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:52 AM
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20. He sits down to pee.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:02 PM
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34. He might have prostate problems, then.
Peeing standing up if the prostate's enlarged can make someone vagal out (presses against the vagal nerve, which can make someone pass out). My hubby recommends that all his male patients start peeing sitting down when they get older.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:41 PM
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40. that's interesting -- didn't the pretzel incident ...
... supposedly result from vasovagal syncope (choking on the pretzel affected his vagal nerve and he blacked out)?

I can't help wondering if he actually collapsed in the bathroom and hit his head on the toilet rather than on a coffee table in the living room ... and the White House altered the story? Not that there is anything terribly embarrassing in the situation which you describe, but this lot seem to be overly sensitive and fib even when it seems unnecessary ....


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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:13 PM
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68. I'd forgotten that.
Hmm. It does make sense. I am very sure that they're hiding more than one serious medical issue from us. In his last exam, they reported no neuro exam at all, which made me suspicious.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:38 PM
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71. I can never resist a cheap joke, so here goes ...
Why test an organ that isn't even present? (Kind of like giving me a prostate exam.)
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:11 PM
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29. We've never had a president so hated by the entire planet before, though.
Might just be Republican paranoia about assassination. That explains the chef, but you'd think they'd just do a heavy sweep of the toilet wherever he is instead of bringing a porta-potty along.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:10 AM
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74. So they don't have to search the can every time.
It makes sense to me.

Even though I couldn't care less if he fell down a port-o-let hole, there's that group of poor slobs who have to take care of the moran.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:49 AM
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7. Kicked and recommended
Anyone who's lived with addiction knows the signs. They are painfully, horribly obvious. Even genuinely stupid people don't act the way Bush does. His loss of inhibitions, his continual nonsense babble, and loss of sense of impropriety are loud and clear.

He desperately needs help. I hope he gets it, before he destroys the whole world. But that's not going to happen, because he is completely encased in yes-men and yes-women.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:51 AM
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8. who is holding anybody below him accountable?
Who is holding anybody accountable period? There is absolutely no accountability in the US Government at all.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:37 AM
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63. right
--we seem to have no way to address the problem of incompetent leaders from an accountability standpoint.

People around Chimpy just work harder to cover up the truth and promote the illusion that everything is OK. There are no mechanisms in place for evaluating the situation and taking action re. the top positions in government, and if we did, would anyone be brave enough to call for them to be used? Impeachment doesn't seem to be available to us at this time. From what I've seen, those on the inside will let this destructive behavior continue until it undermines and destroys everything they stand for, never mind the rest of us. They always keep hoping that such a "personal problem" will sort itself out, instead of taking direct action.

I have seen a similar situation in a scientific research setting. A person in a position of authority developed a very serious drinking problem over time. Even after near liver failure and obvious mental deterioration this person was propped up. Everyone on the team looked the other way, aided and abetted, did damage control, effectively denied the issue as a group. They would all rather suffer and perform the work of the sick individual to the point of their own exhaustion--than face the problem directly, for fear of getting into anyone's personal business or being criticized. The team's productivity suffered, the project suffered, and people in the end became demoralized. Still, nothing was done. Years of credibility and hard work went down the drain...because of one person with a bad drinking problem who managed to sucker others into maintaining the illusions. Mechanisms for addressing the problems were ineffective. What the team really needed was group therapy WHILE procedures were being enacted to deal with the individual concerned. Somebody needed to give them permission to object to being used and abused in this situation. There is a big social taboo around the problems of drug or alcohol abuse in "white collar" job settings.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:02 AM
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9. Omg - What is this all about? Is there a video?
...It reminded me of the time Bush went to Canada and couldn’t get off the subject of the mouth one of the Canadian Prime Minister’s staff members: “You’ve got a purty mouth.”, he said. Not once but over and over. “You’ve sure got a purty mouth.” And, “Your mouth is prettier than my Scott’s mouth.”

Years from now, reporters will probably tell stories about what a drunk he was but they weren't *allowed* to report it. It is so obvious.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:36 PM
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36. It was all over the CBC at the time
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:34 AM
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51. i have the globe and mail article in my files..here are excerpts..
the article now has to be bought from archinves but i have full article in my files..here is an excerpt..

Canadian : GLOBE AND MAIL

Bush prefers our pretty boy to his pretty boy
By JANE TABER


Friday, January 16, 2004, Page A1

OTTAWA -- This is the tale of the two Scotts -- one American, the other Canadian. One is dark-haired, the other blond. Both are 35 and both work for the most powerful men in their respective countries.

The full text of this article has 391 words.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v4/sub/MarketingPage?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2FArticleNews%2FTPStory%2FLAC%2F20040116%2FREID16%2F&ord=1153463567155&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true

Bush prefers our pretty boy to his pretty boy


By JANE TABER


UPDATED AT 3:11 PM EST

SNIP:

Mr. Bush wandered over during Mr. Reid's chat with the Prime Minister. Mr. Reid introduced himself and shook hands with Mr. Bush.
"Well, what do you do for this guy?" the President asked as he pointed to the Prime Minister.

"Well, you know, sir, I can't really say," Mr. Reid said. "It's not that I don't want to. It's just that, you know, I don't really know from day to day."
This is true. Mr. Reid handles a number of files and performs a number of different duties, depending on the issue and the day.

The President chuckled. "Well, you got a pretty face," he told the surprised Mr. Reid. He wasn't done. "You got a pretty face," he said again. "You're a good-looking guy. Better looking than my Scott anyway."

This is true. His Scott has a receding hairline and is on the chubby side, while Mr. Martin's Scott has a full head of hair and is quite fit.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:02 AM
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10. He's pretty nearly incapacitated...
and very obviously can't be in charge. Who has ursurped the position of President of the United States, the dark lord Cheney?
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:04 AM
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11. UNFIT, UNFIT, JUST CLEARLY UNFIT!!
for christ sakes. can it get any more obvious that he need to be removed from office???
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:11 AM
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12. As long as Fox and CNN excuse him, most people won't get the connection
"The poor president just can't win"....I believe someone on Fox said this. "He's just a regular guy" is another one.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:21 AM
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16. he is no regular guy, he is not someone to have a beer with
either, how could we let this man stand unchallenged.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:17 AM
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13. we have the evidence that bush
is unfit to serve, I wish there was some way of really bringing into the light, bush is a sick SOB, and do we really want this person to be a leader in the free world, not so free now with this maniac in power.

No one is saying anything or doing anything to challenge this man, he is only one person, we are many, Oh, let me stop now, this is just too frustrating, and I may something that I should not say.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:32 AM
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18. That evidence is just the tip of the iceberg
Of crimiality and unfitness this administration demonstrates.

-Hoot
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JohnnyLib Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:17 AM
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14. Terrific summary

Ya know, if we could all stop diagnosing from afar and just keep pointing out the oddness, that perception might have more impact. Language like

loopy
inappropriate
out of synch
weird
classless
resembles my eccentric grandpa
reminds me of when I visited the "memory unit" at the local home
not something I've seen our local officials ever do


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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:25 AM
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17. As I read this most compelling post, I was put in mind again of .....
.... how, when Poppy was prez, Babs had to make sure he sat at the opposite end of the table when Queen Elizabeth was visiting. They didn't trust Junior to be capable of proper behavior.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:39 AM
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19. Too bad the Surgeon General cannot rule him unfit to lead,
not that he would. He could then be impeached under such a ruling.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:53 AM
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21. Excellent summation of bush's bazzaro behavior
This reminds me of my time as a school counselor -- kids would come in and as we talked to them about their next years classes -- some were high, some were drunk, some had hand overs. These were Sophomores -- but you learn to spot the signs of drugs or booze. Already at this age some of the kids were mean drunks . . .

The writer is a trained observer --

We are in a whole heap of deep do-do. ALL the world's leaders must know more than we ordinary citizens know about the "real" bush.

What gets me is the news item about bush's poop being a state secret -- WHAT are they hiding?

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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:33 AM
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67. You've touched on something interesting here (not the poop :eyes: )
Yes, every leader and staffer at the G8 must have seen and heard his bizarre and inappropriate behavior. They were exposed to much more than what we could pick up through the press. What are they doing or what might they do with that information?

Depending on their viewpoint and motivation, they could publicize this, attempt an intervention, or blackmail him and his handlers. I'm sure there are many other ways they could use this information for good or evil. I'd like to hear others' speculations on this.

Surely they must do what most people do who have to work or live around an alcoholic or addict: learn to use the person's condition. For example, if you want Dad to let you borrow the car to go to a concert out of town and he would normally never agree to this, ask him when he's drunk. If you want Dad to take care of a tuition bill or something else important, ask him early in the morning, before he's drunk. If you've used Dad's credit card to order some expensive new stereo speakers and he's furious about it, insist he gave you permission for it last Friday night when he was drunk out of his mind. He knows he doesn't have plausible deni-ability because he can't remember what he did or said and he's done that type of thing before. The world leaders can't help but play him this way, because it's the only way to deal with a drunk.

What do others think about this?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:54 AM
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22. Here he is at G8 2 yrs ago w/his fly open. Check out PootiePoot's face.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:12 PM
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23. Don't tell me. He listens to the Ramones.
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be sedated

Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-oh I wanna be sedated

Just get me to the airport put me on a plane

Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane

I can't control my fingers I can't control my brain

Oh no no no no no

Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go....

Just put me in a wheelchair and put me on a plane

Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane

I can't control my fingers I can't control my brain

Oh no no no no no

Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be sedated

Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-o I wanna be sedated

Just put me in a wheelchair get me to the show

Hurry hurry hurry before I gotta go

I can't control my fingers I can't control my toes

Oh no no no no no

Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go...

Just put me in a wheelchair...

Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated

Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated

Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated

Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:47 PM
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24. Heres a god book to read
"Bush on the Couch"

In it, I am told that the author also believes Bush is back on the bottle...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:57 PM
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38. Excellent book. I second the recommendation.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:29 PM
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45. Third....great book.
No intervention since that would put cheney as prez?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:57 AM
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58. I too recommend the book. I don't know what the author has said...
he believes since, but in the book he speculates on Bush being a dry drunk. At the time I read it I recall shaking my head and thinking, "nope, that guy NEVER went dry."

I'd like to see an addendum or revised edition of the book. I'd like to see what the author has to say since he wrote it originally. A lot of bizarre behavior has manifested since then.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:05 PM
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25. Well.....just today he "playfully slapped" Rep. Al Green's face at NAACP
Convention... Al Green is a Dem from Texas...wouldn't think they were best buddies...close enough for Bush to "grab his face." It looked like a grab more than (as the media says) a "playful slap."

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Nabia2004 Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:24 PM
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28. Rep. Green looks as "thrilled" as Chancellor Merkel did - nt
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:26 PM
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32. Recoil from the touch of a monster, a degenerate, a coward
who certainly has the potential to be one of the evilest men who ever lived (though he hasn't yet earned that title).

At the very least, he and his minions have begun a chain of events which has already ended the Old American Republic and may well within 20-100 years end the nation most horribly.
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:13 AM
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59. OMG Has anyone had the nerve to tell him
that this behavior is being noted? Someone is going to deck this guy.

He has not IMPULSE CONTROL.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:23 PM
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26. a modern day Henry VIII!
:scared:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:50 PM
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33. There was alot I liked about Henry VIIII...but he was a complicated
Man and King.. He was an Astrological Sun Sign in Cancer as is George the II, though...so many in Bush's puny version of Henry...there is some comparison.

But..from my reading Henry the Eighth was a MUCH MORE COMPLICATED person than the IDIOT/DRUNK who now occupies our Presidency.

Maybe if Henry the Eight was living now ...he would be the "Emperor-in-Theif" reincarnated. But, Henry's love of music (he could play several instruments, love of horses (the Chimp doesn't have on on his Pig Ranch) and his writing of Poetry (which one can search and find plus his song composition) leads me to believe that not ALL "CANCER SUN SUNS" have the same interests or destiny... :-(

I would wish that "Chimp" could love family, country and home" the way most Cancer "sun signs" do...but he is an "EVIL DOER" and must have the "darkest" of his horoscope dogging him because of unfortunate planetary placements in his "individual chart."

Who knows? This P-Resident is EVIL AND BIZARRE no matter how one looks at him!
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:34 AM
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52. Yes, and if his first wife
Katherine of Aragon had given birth to a son instead of Princess Mary, there might never have been an Anglican Church, and a Bloody Mary, and England to this day might still be Catholic. At one time, Henry VIII was given the title, "Defender of the Faith"

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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 04:26 AM
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57. And nearly all British monarchs since then have had the title
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 04:28 AM by Art_from_Ark
"Defender of the Faith", which appears on British coins in its Latin abbreviation of "Fid. Def." or merely "F.D."

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TiredNow Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:03 PM
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27. An addict is the perfect puppet.
Easy to predict, easy to manipulate, easy to control. Perfect puppet for Darth Cheney and his forces of evil to channel their master plan thru. He can even be their sacrifical lamb when they are done with him. Disposable dummy. All the have to do is turn on him and blame everything that's gone wrong and every illegality on him. I'm betting he gets grilled by his own party (and even daddy) before `08 so the Neo-cons can save face and try to get another jughead puppet in the White House. And what does W care, at least he won't have to go to work anymore. He can just go back to the ranch and play like Billy Madison for the rest of his life.
"Daddy, I'm tired of playing President and oil company CEO and stuff. Nothing ever works out right and people say mean stuff to me". "Don't worry, sport, you can go play in the back yard now, your brother Jeb'll take it from here".

Just havin some fun. Don't anyone go "nuculer" on my ass!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:05 PM
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35. Tired now has just posted my biggest fear
"Daddy, I'm tired of playing President and oil company CEO and stuff. Nothing ever works out right and people say mean stuff to me". "Don't worry, sport, you can go play in the back yard now, your brother Jeb'll take it from here".



What I can't really reconcile is, after these (is there a big, bad enough word?)...ummm..NeoConsters have spent so much time and effort to get themselves here, I can't really see them relinquishing athing to anyone out of their cabal.

I can't really even picture them allowing a presidential election to happen (security in time of war bla bla).
Why would they?
Then, what I fear is some sort of thing where aWol steps aside and is allowed to appoint his successor (fat pnac jeb) .

The pnac-pack is doing just fine, gettin' it done. Are they really going to go "Oh darn! We just ran out of time. Not enough hours in the day huh, Krissie?"
"You said it jebbster!"

:crazy: :scared: :tinfoilhat:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:40 AM
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60. No Nukes
Welcome to DU!
:rofl:
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:21 PM
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30. Since the Executive Order sharing ownership of health-care "consumers"
electronic health records with States and 27 or so Federal agencies, why aren't our leaders health records shared with the people? (the raw records, billing, notes, i.e., everything, not just a doctors scripted speech in front of a microphone)

That would at least make the citizens' pain-of-lost medical privacy a reasonable and non-hypocritical tit-for-tat.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:22 PM
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31. I have been saying this for 5 years
Chimperor has the key to the National Medicine Cabinet. I would speculate both he 95% of the time and Pickles 60% of the time are indeed smashed to the gills.

And I absolutely believe the rumor that they are well aware of the forensic trail left by Chimperors #1 and #2 with regards to the tremendously high levels of prescriptions tranks and uppers, I would guess.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:44 PM
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41. True...YOU and Many Other Du'ers and Internet Folks have been Saying THIS
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 08:46 PM by KoKo01
about him. Also many writers who have written books about the Bush Mental Demons that "dog them into not being able to do..."Plain Speak.'

I liked this one and posted it because it was a random comment on a Website and it kind of pulled together what the NEW THINGS that were coming out were showing about "King George II." It doesn't put down what others have written since he was "SELECTED" about his mentally deficient capabilities...it only adds MORE EVIDENCE!

There's something TERRIBLY WRONG MENTALLY with this P-Resident. And it's WORSE than Reagan's Alzheimers Disease. :-(
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:39 PM
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37. How else Can He Sleep With Himself, Mad king Boy George taking Halcion?
I remember Poppy having to take Halcion back when he was in office.

Side effects cannot be anticipated. If any develop or change in intensity, inform your doctor as soon as possible. Only your doctor can determine if it is safe for you to continue taking Halcion.

More common side effects may include:
Coordination problems, dizziness, drowsiness, headache, light-headedness, nausea/vomiting, nervousness
Less common or rare side effects may include:
Aggressiveness, agitation, behavior problems, burning tongue, changes in sexual drive, chest pain, confusion, congestion, constipation, cramps/pain, delusions, depression, diarrhea, disorientation, dreaming abnormalities, drowsiness, dry mouth, exaggerated sense of well-being, excitement, fainting, falling, fatigue, hallucinations, impaired urination, inappropriate behavior, incontinence, inflammation of the tongue and mouth, irritability, itching, loss of appetite, loss of sense of reality, memory impairment, memory loss (e.g. traveler's amnesia), menstrual irregularities, morning "hangover" effects, muscle spasms in the shoulders or neck, nightmares, rapid heart rate, restlessness, ringing in the ears, skin inflammation, sleep disturbances including insomnia, sleepwalking, slurred or difficult speech, stiff awkward movements, taste changes, tingling or pins and needles, tiredness, visual disturbances, weakness, yellowing of the skin and whites of the eyes

Special warnings about this medication
When Halcion is used every night for more than a few weeks, it loses its effectiveness to help you sleep. This is known as tolerance. Also, it can cause dependence, especially when it is used regularly for longer than a few weeks or at high doses.

Abrupt discontinuation of Halcion should be avoided, since it has been associated with withdrawal symptoms (convulsions, cramps, tremor, vomiting, sweating, feeling ill, perceptual problems, and insomnia). A gradual dosage tapering schedule is usually recommended for patients taking more than the lowest dose of Halcion for longer than a few weeks. The usual treatment period is 7 to 10 days.

If you develop unusual and disturbing thoughts or behavior---including increased anxiety or depression---during treatment with Halcion, you should discuss them with your doctor immediately.

"Traveler's amnesia" has been reported by patients who took Halcion to induce sleep while traveling. To avoid this condition, do not take Halcion on an overnight airplane flight of less than 7 to 8 hours.

You may suffer increased anxiety during the daytime while taking Halcion.

When you first start taking Halcion, until you know whether the medication will have any "carry over" effect the next day, use extreme care while doing anything that requires complete alertness such as driving a car or operating machinery.

After discontinuing the drug, you may experience a "rebound insomnia" for the first 2 nights---that is, insomnia may be worse than before you took the sleeping pill.

You should be aware that anterograde amnesia (forgetting events after an injury) has been associated with benzodiazepine drugs such as Halcion.

You should be cautious about using this drug if you have liver or kidney problems, lung problems, or a tendency to temporarily stop breathing while you are asleep.







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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:50 PM
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42. His "Poppy" took the Halcion ...but the Son is a New Generation and
probably has "access" to much more than his Poppy. Plus all those years at Andover and Yale and then Harvard Business School in the "flowering times of the Drug Culture" probably clued him in "Big Time" to what was available for the Rich with "deep pockets."

One only has to do a "Google" of "Rush Limbaugh, Drugs" to find what all folks today can get into.

I have to admit...I didn't grow up with that stuff.....for my age group it was "Red, Red Wine...and lots of cigarettes." Seems TAME as to what one can obtain these days. :eyes:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:47 PM
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50. I agree that he could be on a number of Drugs
the reason it seemed to me to be Halcion from what I read in the side effects and why anyone would take it at all:

Taken as a Sleep Aide, as well as for Air Travel

Aggressiveness, agitation, behavior problems, confusion, delusions, disorientation, exaggerated sense of well-being, inappropriate behavior, irritability, loss of sense of reality, memory impairment, slurred or difficult speech, stiff awkward movements

Now you have to admit he has shown these symptoms while he has been overseas, as well as here in the states.
But considering how many people's lives he has destroyed, it just seems like he would need a sleep aide.

And of course I didn't mean to imply just because Poppy was on Halcion that Baby Bush needed to be like Daddy.
I can't even recall why Poppy was taking Halcion, but I do remember the press exposing his usage. He also was exhibiting weird behavior, although nothing like Mad king Boy George!

I have often thought the Mad king was actually one of the Boys From Brazil. A Snowflake baby if you will.:rofl:


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:40 AM
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64. lol's ...boy from Brazil... About the halcion, though...
Before 9/11 remember when the press reported that Bush didn't like to travel and tried to be back in the White House or the "Ranch" overnight. They even said he took his favorite pillow with him...which he called "pilly" (this is the nickname he gave it):eyes: and then 9/11 happened and he's been hitting the road on a "campaign" ever since.

I wonder if flying bothers him with jet lag and so he started taking halcion or some other sleep aide and it's affected him this way. Maybe his handlers can't get him on the road without him taking something and so this is what we get. :shrug: I think the reports were that Poppy Bush had jet lag problems and that's why he took the halcion and so it could be his evil spawn has the same problem.

Somebody needs to get him detoxed quick and into therapy if he's dependent on sleep aides though. We've got two more years of him acting this way and who knows what he will do next.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:29 PM
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39. I think this is dead-on. The imbecile is clearly not in his right 'mind'
if one can even call it that.
He's so completely out of touch with reality it's frightening.

That ill-bred, in-bred, socially graceless display at the G-8 was pathetic, and embarassing.

What a fucking loser. What a total, complete, fucking loser.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:10 PM
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43. Remember what he said about Chirac?
On a visit to France, Bush was asked if he would ever invite Chirac to his Crawford Ranch. Bush's insane response: "I'm lookin' for a good cowboy".
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:19 PM
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44. Had forgotten that....OMG! there's so much idiocy out of his mouth....
but that WAS a key thing Bush said. At the time we might have been into that "Freedom Fries thingy" where we were all supposed to hate the French...but I do remember that quote...another Bushism that we need to remember that's gone down the "memory hole." He Insults those he doesn't want anything from at that moment. I guess at that moment Chirac didn't fit into his "comfy family of allies." :-(

Thanks...!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:58 AM
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66. I'll bet he is, I'll bet he is, say no more, say no more....
Wink, wink,....
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:47 PM
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47. He's drugged ,drunk or both, no doubt...
But the boorish, smug, flippant, classless, arrogant, narcissistic behavior is 100% pure Bush.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:54 PM
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48. This might be the most important post you ever have
put up. As an ex-bartender I have noticed this behavior from years back. All the while everyone was trying to call him a dry drunk I was trying to point out the behavior clues that he wasn't so dry. The slouched back sitting is a dead give away among all the other traits he has exhibited. His lack of coherence in his speech even though he doesn't slur is another. Many practiced drunks don't slur and don't stagger but they exhibit other behaviors and Bush as exhibited them all. So has Dick Cheney and so has Donald Rumsfeld.

Someone has to get proof and present it to Congress. The man is not able to discharge his duties. It's obvious. Somebody has to demand his resignation and if they can't get him for treason and all his other criminal acts, maybe this will be what does it.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:55 AM
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65. agreed
The symptoms of advanced alcoholism can be subtle, but not hard to recognise if you've seen enough of it. But to those who don't see the subtle signs it seems as though one day they're functional, the next they're laid out on the floor.

"Somebody has to demand..." --who? Who would put their head down on the chopping block? Nobody even twitched when Ronnie started taking detours down the Pacific Coast Highway.

Nobody is going to call the p/resident a dangerous drunk--it would be painted as a vicious attack.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:26 PM
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49. *Drug Test the Prez* Protest Signs and Buttons
Just sounds like the right thing to do...
Call attention to the problem...
Over and over and over again until it cannot be ignored anymore.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 03:20 AM
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53. KoKo01...K&R...that's one damn poster. What a case!
I suspect that anti * factions, small but busy, in corporate media (CM) will start seeding this story.

It's the perfect rational to get rid of the guy early. Don't worry about Cheney going, he's enough reason in an of himself to send him packing.

Gore for Speaker of the House, f'ing now;)
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 03:25 AM
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54.  This I know to be true
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 03:30 AM by nomatrix
If one is an addict or an alcoholic and stops even for years, then picks up again the damage progresses as if one never stopped. For that person, it could be fatal.

Edit opinion.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 04:23 AM
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56. reagan was crazy too
He had alzhiemers..but for how LONG while he was in office? Too convenient for his evil underlings like Kissinger the war criminal. His wife and all the astrology and stuff. Ever notice how the same names recycle in the republican party,coincidence or a cabal of rich evil hearted criminals duping people? It seems so many republicans are nuts or over religious,drunks,addicts, or sexually messed up...Nixon was a paranoid. It seems the whole mentality of social conservatism and authoritarianism makes for some vicious mbullying ,hypocrite sick sick assholes fucking over people. Keep CON servatives AWAY from the power,because with them abuse of power takes them on egomaniac trips,and people hurt and suffer because of these types of personalities who are UNFIT to be in power.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:52 AM
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61. So accurate it hurts
:hangover:
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:29 AM
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62. After Ronald Reagan was shot (four months into his presidency)
We had the Donald Regan presidency, the Edwin Meese presidency (and one more, sorry I just woke up). During this pResidency, we have the Cheney presidency, the Rumsfield pResidency. SCOTUS delivered B** to us. He was never meant to actually DO anything...except one day bear the blame for it all.
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 05:17 PM
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69. This slap and grab sh*t reminds me of that video clip
where he's at a wedding and goes on and on , all slurry-like
"onleeyinnamericuh.."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4IrQ5HWF-E

the takes a big swig of the "water" in his hiball glass.

He seems to be unable to behave when in public.
Like a bratty, needy kid.
All of his bald head patting, nicknaming, fidgeting and mugging at funerals, slapping congressmen, grabbing female world leaders, wiping his glasses on woman's skirt, swigging his mineral water out of the bottle at a state dinner..........

gawrsh: not enough hours in the day to do a list of his inappropriate shenanigans.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:54 PM
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70. Isn't this when we DU'er realized he might be
drinking on the side? Many DU'ers have long suspected this...and I believe this was the first report of how he "pretends not to drink" while he very much DOES DRINK......

I guess he thinks he can "handle it." Being the "Commander-in-Thief" gives one many "perks and privileges." :-(
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:55 AM
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73. How anyone can watch that video
and believe that he was EVER elected is beyond me. He has made the USA a joke in the rest of the world.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:14 AM
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72. Kick for the Weekend visitors
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