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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:40 AM
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Buchanan"(Israel violating)international law..it's unAmerican/unChristian"
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 09:48 AM by truthpusher
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51116

Where are the Christians?
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Posted: July 18, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Patrick J. Buchanan
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Let it be said: Israel has a right to defend herself, a right to counter-attack against Hezbollah and Hamas, a right to clean out bases from which Katyusha or Qassam rockets are being fired and a right to occupy land from which attacks are mounted on her people.

But what Israel is doing is imposing deliberate suffering on civilians, collective punishment on innocent people, to force them to do something they are powerless to do: disarm the gunmen among them. Such a policy violates international law and comports neither with our values nor our interests. It is un-American and un-Christian.

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That Tel Aviv is maneuvering us to fight its wars is understandable. That Americans are ignorant of, or complicit in this, is deplorable.

Already, Bush is ranting about Syria being behind the Hezbollah capture of the Israeli soldiers. But where is the proof?

Who is whispering in his ear? The same people who told him Iraq was maybe months away from an atom bomb, that an invasion would be a "cakewalk," that he would be Churchill, that U.S. troops would be greeted with candy and flowers, that democracy would break out across the region, that Palestinians and Israelis would then sit down and make peace?

How much must America pay for the education of this man?

more here: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51116
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:42 AM
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1. I remember seeing the head of Mossad on the Daily Show...
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 09:43 AM by originalpckelly
and he said that Iraq probably weapons of mass destruction. (This was only a few months ago.) Something smells fishy to me about that.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:42 AM
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2. Buchanan stumbles onto the truth.
Even a broken clock is correct two times a day. But he is exactly right on this one.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:46 AM
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3. I can't believe I agree with Buchanan- somebody shoot me
now!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:47 AM
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4. I think that is how messed up thing are...
these people in our country today are so far right, they make Pat look centrist or leftist. :rofl:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:48 AM
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5. Try to remain calm--it will surely pass
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:44 AM
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16. It has happened to me a few times during the past 3 or so years and I
swear it just goes to show the kind of bizarro world we're living in.

The first time that he wrote an article that made some sort of sense to me (outing PNAC prior to Iraq) I broke out in hives. Now I'm down to just cold sweats.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:20 AM
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19. Yep -- I know what you mean
it makes me damned uncomfortable when the B guy and I are on the same page.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:49 AM
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6. Let it be said that Buchanan is a racist homophobic
rabid creep, and shame on DUers for repeatedly posting his remarks.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:52 AM
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8. past aside (not forgiven) he is being quite (un) racist defending....
...the 'Arab' peoples.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:54 AM
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9. That scarcely matters
He has a despicable history, replete with many anti-semitic comments, he's hardly someone to be posting, right or not.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:57 AM
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11. By posting it allows us all to decide for ourselves...when DU asks for...
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 09:58 AM by truthpusher
...an official 'Censor'...that would be a good time for you to apply... I in no way support Buchannan - I just found his comments interesting (and telling) and thought that it would spark some interesting and educational (for me) conversation.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:07 AM
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12. I have every right to express my contempt n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:14 AM
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14. Of course it's germane
and you're the one doing the ad hominem attacks.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:32 AM
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15. More distortion.
You made a direct ad hominem on Buchanan. I called you on it--that is not an ad hominem attack. You simply can't refute the argument so you use a cheap rhetorical trick.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:13 AM
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17. Oh please, defending Pat Buchanan, a Hitler apologist
Defend this shit:

Buchanan referred to Capitol Hill as "Israeli-occupied territory."
(St. Louis Post Dispatch, 10/20/90)

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and
genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage...Hitler's
success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an
intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness
masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood
in his path." (The Guardian, 1/14/92)


Writing of "group fantasies of martyrdom," Buchanan challenged the
historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel
exhaust at Treblinka: "Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide
to kill anybody." (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan's columns have run in
the Liberty Lobby's Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter
and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist
concoction.


Buchanan called for closing the U.S. Justice Department's Office of
Special Investigations, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals, because it was
"running down 70-year-old camp guards." (New York Times, 4/21/87)


Buchanan was vehement in pushing President Reagan -- despite protests
-- to visit Germany's Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi SS troops were buried.
At a White House meeting, Buchanan reportedly reminded Jewish leaders that
they were "Americans first" -- and repeatedly scrawled the phrase
"Succumbing to the pressure of the Jews" in his notebook. Buchanan was
credited with crafting Ronald Reagan's line that the SS troops buried at
Bitburg were "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration
camps." (New York Times, 5/16/85; New Republic, 1/22/96)

After Cardinal O'Connor criticized anti-Semitism during the
controversy over construction of a convent near Auschwitz, Buchanan wrote:
"If U.S. Jewry takes the clucking appeasement of the Catholic cardinalate
as indicative of our submission, it is mistaken. When Cardinal O'Connor of
New York seeks to soothe the always irate Elie Wiesel by reassuring him
'there are many Catholics who are anti-Semitic'...he speaks for himself. Be
not afraid, Your Eminence; just step aside, there are bishops and priests
ready to assume the role of defender of the faith." (New Republic,
10/22/90)

The Buchanan '96 campaign's World Wide Web site included an article
blaming the death of White House aide Vincent Foster on the Israeli
intelligence agency, Mossad -- and alleging that Foster and Hillary
Clinton were Mossad spies. (The campaign removed the article after its
existence was reported by a Jewish on-line news service; Jewish Telegraphic
Agency, 2/21/96.)


In his September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition, Buchanan
declared: "Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our
religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free." (ADL
Report, 1994)

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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:50 AM
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7. Buchanan is frequently wrong, but he's totally right on this one. n/t
n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:55 AM
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10. more and more.



How much must America pay for the education of this man?
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jrandom421 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:16 AM
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18. Well, DUH!
It is un-American and un-Christian.


Of course it is, that's why they're Israeli and Jewish! :)
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:47 AM
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20. He was referring to American values.
yeah, I had to re-read it too, not the best sentence construction.


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