GreenPartyVoter
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:20 PM
Original message |
Poll question: Is Israel acting under U.S. orders so that the door will be open for |
Ian David
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:21 PM
Response to Original message |
1. Israel is sacrificial lamb to bring on the Xian Fundamentalist Apocalypse |
Vincardog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:23 PM
Response to Original message |
2. The NeoConvicts BS rush to war against Iran is not playing in the USA |
|
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 02:25 PM by Vincardog
The fools are using Israel to start it and trying to draw in Syrian and Iran. It is all in their evil plan to trick Jebusus into rapturing them up.
When It happens can I have their Swiss bank accounts?
|
rkc3
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
16. Ask your local nutter if you can have their house and car when they |
|
are Raptured up - it's more fun than you can imagine.
|
blonndee
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:27 PM
Response to Original message |
3. I don't think Israel is under US control |
|
and I'm definitely not a ME expert by any means. My theory is that Hezbollah (whoever may be operating through them, and I acknowledge the possibility of literally anyone doing this) is deliberately provoking this, and that the war pigs, including the media, are taking advantage of it in order to attack Iran and Syria.
Why Hezbollah would do this depends, I guess, on whether or not "Hezbollah" in this instance is who we understand it to be. If indeed this group is made up of those who supported Syria controlling Lebanon, then it seems as though either Lebanon is being punished for the "Cedar Revolution" or that Hezbollah is trying to "win back" Lebanon for Syria/Iran, or both.
If it's really not Hezbollah doing this then I guess that would be a different scenario altogether, but I don't think there's nearly enough evidence to suggest otherwise. Just gotta mix in just a LITTLE tin-foil hattery here.
Please go easy on me, I acknowledge this is just speculation based on what I've been reading and considering the last few days.
|
Lerkfish
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
13. good post, except the title... |
|
I would say US and Isreal are in an incestuous relationship, neither acts in the region without the full knowledge and/or consent of the other.
|
blonndee
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
14. Thanks, and I do agree with you. |
|
I just don't think that one necessarily controls the other. Perhaps I'm wrong, but what you described seems to be the case.
|
Ariana Celeste
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:28 PM
Response to Original message |
|
Israel is doing this on their own. I could see the US possibly using it as an excuse, though. Just imo.
|
Spazito
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:29 PM
Response to Original message |
5. I don't see either the US nor Israel under either's thumb, they are |
|
equal opportunity users, neither being subservient to the other. As long as each of their goals coincide, they will support each other, right or wrong. It is both Israel and the US's goal to "re-make" the Middle East with regime change in Iran and Syria so they are working hand in hand at the moment, imo.
The moment the goals of either country diverge, they will toss each other overboard to sharks quicker than you can "shake a stick". One has only to look at history to see it was and is so.
|
Minnesota Libra
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:30 PM
Response to Original message |
6. I personally think this whole issue is two-fold............ |
|
.....
First, Israel has a real beef with Hamas/Hezbilloh/Palestinians/Lebanon/etc and their feel they are settling a score.
Two, the US is hoping Israel's actions will draw Iran into the fight and then the US will go into Iran. I also think there are plans to re-institute the draft if need be.
|
The Magistrate
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:32 PM
Response to Original message |
|
The Israeli government is acting on its own, under its own political and strategic imperatives.
|
MrPrax
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:41 PM
Response to Original message |
|
or else the bUShites will have to admit that it's ME policies are a disaster and they don't really have any control over what does Israel either...no influence in the region whatsoever other than the capacity to bomb shit...like Israel.
|
kentuck
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:45 PM
Response to Original message |
sendero
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:45 PM
Response to Original message |
|
.... Israel is the Tom Sawyer here, and they have been for a long time. The entire PNAC agenda could have been written by them.
We are not pulling the strings here, I guarantee you that. Israel has told us to pack sand on numerous occasions, why would anyone think they march to our orders?
|
GreenPartyVoter
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
11. Because we _want_ them to thin kthey are in control. The Talibornagains |
|
that run over gov't are just using Israel. They secretly loathe that Jews have custody of "their" holy sites. Seriously.
|
sinkingfeeling
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:50 PM
Response to Original message |
12. There's something going on. This is not the first time that Israelis have |
|
been captured by Hezbollah. In the past, there have been skirmishes across the Lebanon/Israel border and hostages have been exchanged...even dead bodies have been returned to Israel. Why now was this such a 'big deal' that Israel decided to bomb the crap out of Lebanon? I do believe the USA's secret hand is in play. The neo-cons and Israel's Likudists are joined at the hip. I think the plan is for Israel to draw in the Lebanese military, then Syria will come to Lebanon's defense and perhaps Iran. Iran might move into Iraq and join forces with the Iraqi Shiites to eliminate the Sunnis and perhaps the 130,000 US troops hunkered down in the Green Zone. Bush can then use his 'strategic' nukes in both countries. Oh, and Turkey just might go after those pesky Kurds near their border as well.
Who knows, maybe Russia would then step into the fray. China? Great opportunity for India and Pakistan to 'get it on' as well.
Our man, Chimpy, and his neo-con handlers will then have their wet dreams come true.
|
On the Road
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jul-20-06 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #12 |
15. Minor Incidents are Often Used as Occasion to Launch an Attack |
|
that needs justification.
When Bush Sr invaded Panama, he used an incident with some US soldiers in a similar way.
|
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Fri Apr 26th 2024, 02:10 AM
Response to Original message |