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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:38 PM
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Boortz today said there was no constitutional right to vote NEWT says
repukes will be happily surprised in NOV>



The FIX IS IN


we are FUCKED
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:39 PM
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1. Bootz is an idiot. Why do you bother listening to that crap he spews? n/t
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:40 PM
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3. guess I like spying...
its like finding out what the enemy is doing
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:39 PM
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2. Those are two heads I'd like to knock together
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:44 PM
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5. I'm opposed to violence
But should both Mr. Gingrich and Mr. Boortz bend over to pick up the same doughnut, the resulting sound would give us new, heretofore unsuspected, dimension to the word "hollow."
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:45 PM
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6. The *bonk* heard round the world
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:49 PM
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7. LOL!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Gawd! I detest Boortz. I'm in Georgia.. Not one but two AM stations that broadcast in my city run Boortz's show simulataneously every morning.

This is all you need to know about Boortz: He is a greedy chickenhawk asshat.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:50 PM
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8. If I'm ever in the same room with the two of them
I hope I will have just been on a Winchell's run.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:03 PM
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10. I assume that Winchell's is a doughnut shop. We have Krispy Kreme in GA.
Unfortunately, we also have Bootz and Newt here in GA. :(
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:42 PM
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4. Yeah, voting is something created by activist judges...
We'd be MUCH better off if we just subjugated ourselves to the Junta.

Some people's kids. They just are destined to turn out bad to the bone...ba ba bub-ba-ba bad to the bone!
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:57 PM
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9. Maybe he should read this:
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 05:00 PM by datadiva
Amendment XVII

Direct Election of Senators
The Seventeenth Amendment was proposed on May 13, 1912, and Ratified on April 8, 1913.
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of State legislatures.
When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments: until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.


edited to fix spelling
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slater71 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:08 PM
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11. This a--hole also said
I heard him say one day that everyone gets one vote and for every 100,000 more in earnings that you have, you would get another vote. Hence, make a million and get 10 votes. Nice isn`t it. Thais why his fair tax that he is pushing is for the rich only, other wise he would not care. All this who says he will only wear a pair of underwear once and then throw them away. And he says the Dems are wackos!
As for the vote, I am afraid Newt is right. They know the fix is in and that is why there is no panic despite the polls. Hope I am wrong though.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:14 PM
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12. sounds that he wants to make EVERYTHING hierarchical
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The Icon Painter Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:23 PM
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15. About that underwear ...
I'm sure if he tried harder, he could find a laundry that could get them clean. It might cost a little more, but ...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:15 PM
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13. There isn't a Constitutional right to vote -- they're right
There should be, but there isn't.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:56 PM
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18. wrong. see my post below. Amendments XV & XIX are specific
about NO ONE will be denied the RIGHT to vote.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:40 PM
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19. No, I'm correct -- there is no Constitutional right for
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 08:43 PM by LostinVA
an individual, popular vote. Only that people cannot be denied the right to vote because of race and sex. It is not defacto -- the only vote that is guaranteed is the Electoral vote. That's it.

Lots of press was given this in 2000... and alot of people were shocked knowing they didn't have an innate right to an individual, Electoral vote via caucus, etc.

So, unfortunately, the ass is technically correct.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:27 PM
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14. Kneel Boortz? Rambles on and on like an 85 year-old with Alzheimers
Boortz is a class I asshole.

He should be put out to pasture.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:35 PM
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16. Gee, then I guess that AMENDMENT giving women the VOTE
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 06:37 PM by WinkyDink
is a figment of my imagination.

Section 1: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:53 PM
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17. Amendments XV and XIX specifically spell out the right to vote
Amendment XV
(1870)

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. ...

Amendment XIX
(1920)

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/consteng.htm

so the flaming dumb@$$ is blatantly WRONG (either stupider than a box of rocks or lying his @$$ off--probably both) as usual.

I've heard Boortz say women shouldn't have the right to vote, students shouldn't, and anybody who "benefits" from things like "welfare" shouldn't. I've written him more than once asking why, then, should the CEOs of corps that are beneficiaries of legislation, including corporate welfare and other subsidies, be able to vote? no answer to that one of course.

The only people who should be allowed to vote are those who would vote the same way he does I guess.

poor poor Boortz is condemned to life in a democracy! oh the horror!
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:50 PM
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20. That's a very misleading statement
The Constitution delegates the rights to the individual states to determine how its electors shall be chosen. It does say the slate of electors must be chosen on the day the Congress has set aside as the national day for elections.

Each state must define in its own state constitution how that slate of electors shall be determined (on the date the Congress has set aside as the national day for elections ....) Every state has written into its state constitution the slate shall be selected as a result of the popular vote (except for one, and I am too tired to remember which state that is).

Therefore, the citizens of 49 states are guaranteed the right to vote by the state constitution, and the results of the popular vote determine which slate shall cast the electoral votes. No date can change the way the slate is selected AFTER the national day of voting. If the law is to be changed by a state, it must be done prior to an election. I bring this up to point out that when the State of Florida threatened to appoint its own Republican slate of electors even if Al Gore won the 2000 recount, Constitutionally, that slate could have been disregarded when the electoral college met and counted the electoral votes. But Jim Baker did not mention that part when he relayed the threats ....
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