Question for those that are pro Israel.

[Jara sang]

If the United States and Israel were fighting a war against each other, who would you support? The United States or Israel.

[WinkyDink]

1. STRAW. MAN.

[blonndee]

2. How is that a straw man? It's not even an argument. nt

[Jara sang]

4. No, it's a legitimate question.

[SammyBlue]

3. Flame bait!

[Redstone]

5. That's just fucking stupid. and nothing but flamebait. OK, I'll take the

bait. I'd support Israel.

Happy now?

Redstone

[Jara sang]

11. No, it is completely legitimate.

The people that are pro Israel seem to be very adamant about it. Those that critize Israel do not support any regime in the current Arab/Israelui conflict. I'm wondering how far that devotion to Israel goes.

[Redstone]

19. Bullshit. You're just trying to make trouble, and you konw it, no matter

how much you may deny it.

Your post is fucking disgraceful.

Redstone

[Jara sang]

30. Well, I guess you just know everything.

Must be very lonely up there on top of things looking down at the rest of us.

[INDIA]

6. Nice Post....

NOT!

[laura888]

7. A legitimate discussion. Thanks for posting.

Clearly, Israel is creating a dangerous situation for Americans by her actions.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. That Wasn't The Question.Sorry.

He asked who would a Jew support in a war?

The infamous dual loyalty card.

[laura888]

14. No. he said "pro-israel." n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Hmmmm

"If the United States and Israel were fighting a war against each other, who would you support? The United States or Israel."

[laura888]

54. And your point is? n/t

[progdonkey]

That wasn't the question either, sorry.

While the OP is definitely just flame-bait, the post clearly said "pro-Israel" not "Jew."

You're the one who's making it about Jews, by saying that "Jew" and "pro-Israel" are synoymous. A person can certainly support Israel without being Jewish, and a Jew can just as easliy not support Israel in this action.

He's clearly asking whether those who support Israel at every turn--who seem to believe that Israel can do no wrong--would still hold true to that, were the fighting countries not Israel and Lebanon, but Israel and the US. You are the one who's denigrating Jews, by implying (if not outright stating) that those who don't support Israel at every turn aren't real Jews.

[madaboutharry]

8. Screw you

American Jews are really sick of this loyality issue.

[uppityperson]

9. not enough information.

USA and Israel fighting is to vague. Fighting where, when, whom, with what, why, etc etc etc.

[Jara sang]

23. Well, Israel has attacked the US before.

Without retaliation. Remember the USS Liberty? I don't know what Israel would have to do to us before we would declare war on them. I don't think Israel would ever declare war on the US considering that amount of money that flows into that very small nation from the United States.

[uppityperson]

31. still not enough info to answer the question, question too vague

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. You're Talking About A Forty Year Old Incident That Happened In The Fog

Of War.

And when my father fighting in the Sicialian Campaign lost the sight of his right eye, contacted malaria, had several surgeries during a six month stay at Walter Reed Hospital, and was awarded the Purple Heart he did it for America...

[TahitiNut]

10. I think it's fascinating how some run from the question like

... vampires from garlic. :wow:

[Redstone]

13. Hey, I answered the question.

Moronic flamebait that it was, I answered it anyway. Hope the OP is happy.

Redstone

[uppityperson]

16. need more info to answer. Need to describe question more fully. nt

[HysteryDiagnosis]

A real tough vampire will chew garlic for chewing gum... n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. Are You Questioning My Loyalty?

You can't be fucking serious.

[The_Casual_Observer]

15. Can a country fight itself?

[Blackthorn]

51. HAHA. Someone finally said it.

ISRAEL AND UNITED STATES ARE THE SAME ENTITY. Why do you think the US continually supports Israel no matter what above and beyond ANY other allies? Because Israel is the 52nd state and America's first foothold in the Middle East.

Far too many naive people here.

[AX10]

17. While I generally support Israel, I will not support them if they...

invade Lebenon. In this case, the Lebanese military will be fully justified in pushing the Israeli military back into Israel.

[leftchick]

18. hmmm, my mother or my father, whom would I choose?

great question for those folks.

[AX10]

20. America and Israel are NOT your mother and father.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. "Those Folks"

Care to elaborate.

[treestar]

21. They should support the US

And even support the US's interests over Israel's where they conflict.

Israel is a foreign country. End of story.

[Redstone]

26. You don't REALLY take that original post seriously, do you?

Redstone

[jonnyblitz]

42. why are you freaking out about it? its a very legitimate question.

many folks have dual citizenships. someday there might be a time when someone has to face this decision. I am amused at how totally wigged out you are.

[AX10]

44. That is true.

:kick:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. Well

Because there's a long history of Jews being accused of being more loyal to their group then their nation and this sentiment was used as a justification for persecuting Jews.

[laura888]

36. Agreed. This is a legitimate discussion.

Even while some think this is flamebait - some of us clearly DESIRE this discussion.

[Name removed]

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[Redstone]

29. Very well said.

Redstone

[cali]

45. Bravo.

The instigators are not blessed.

Oh, and the OP is the reason I think it's time for I/P matters to return to the I/P forum. Most of the people there, even though they disagree don't pull this kind of ugly shit.

[Ian David]

25. Which side YOU are on will carry considerable weight in my decision. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. Did the USA illegally attack Israel?

IF SO, I would support Israel. Did Israel Illegally attack the USA? IF SO, America. How's that? Happy now?:eyes:

[Name removed]

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Untermenschen (sic)

eom

[Redstone]

34. Yup, gotta look out for them sneaky JEWS. (Yes, I understand what

you were saying.)

Redstone

[Jara sang]

40. Wow! Great argument. If you aren't pro Israel, then you are an anti-semite

Who wrote that for you? George Bush's speech writer? Sounds vaguely like "if you aren't with us then you are against us"

[AX10]

43. Sadly that is true. The most minute critisism of Israel is considered...

to be an act of "anti-semitism".

[Pavulon]

35. If I had 20 billion dollars, and a scarface pile of

coke, where would I go and who would I do first.

If I had a time machine,

If I had ...

[ovidsen]

37. It aint gonna happen

Not unless the world is flipped upside down.

[cali]

38. Unfucking believable.

Have you any sense of where such a question fits historically? Talk about clueless.

[Jara sang]

41. Expalin yourself. You are making no sense.

[cali]

47. Actually, I'm making perfect sense.

You're simply demonstrating your ignorance.

[Jara sang]

50. Tell me where this "question fits historically".

[tuvor]

46. That's the whole question? The reason for the fight doesn't matter?

[whistle]

49. Jara Sang, if the United States was fighting a shooting war with itself...

....republicans at war fighting democrats, which side would you fight on? Be honest now....

[liberalpragmatist]

52. Flamebait

Total strawman. And I'm not even pro-Israeli in this discussion.

[Marie26]

53. Dumb

This is an O'Reilly-type question.

[Skinner]

56. Locking.

This is shameful.

The insinuation that some of our members are not loyal to this country because they support Israel is disgraceful. I'm embarrassed to see it here on DU.