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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:39 AM
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Wow, Pat Buchanan is on a roll...


and in a good way, beleive it or not!

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"But is it Hezbollah that is using U.S.-built F-16s, with precision-guided bombs and 155-mm artillery pieces to wreak death and devastation on Lebanon?

No, Israel is doing this, with the blessing and without a peep of protest from President Bush. And we wonder why they hate us. "

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"But these neoconservatives care no more about the Constitution than they cared about the truth when they lied into war in Iraq. "

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"If Nixon, Bush I and Clinton could deal with Hafez al-Assad, a tougher customer than son Bashar, what is the matter with George W. Bush? "


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51164
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:40 AM
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1. well, you know what they say about stopped clocks n/t
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:44 AM
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3. Well, he's right 24 hours a day on this one. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:26 PM
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40. This is Pat's usual "secret Israeli cabal controls US government line":
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 11:28 PM by struggle4progress
"... we have allowed Israel to dictate to whom we may and may not talk ..." http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51164


He says the same thing all the time, as (for example) earlier this week:

... Israel instructed the United States to terminate all aid to the Palestinian Authority ... Our Crawford cowboy meekly complied ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20060719/cm_uc_crpbux/pat_buchanan20060719


As the old saying goes, "Beauty is only skin deep but ugliness goes right to the core":

Friday February 23, 1996
News Analysis: Buchanan dogged by links to extremists
MATTHEW DORF
Jewish Telegraphic Agency

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Four years ago, Pat Buchanan's campaign co-chairman stood alongside a white supremacist, a Ku Klux Klan leader and a militia group leader while a speaker branded gun control supporters "your enemies" who are "pumping all the Talmudic filth that they can vomit and defecate into your living room."

Larry Pratt, who last week took a leave of absence from the Buchanan campaign, watched that day as the crowd burst into applause ...

"It's astonishing to me that a guy who has gone to meetings with really stone-cold Nazis and white supremacists is a welcome lobbyist on Capitol Hill," said Kenneth Stern, the American Jewish Committee's expert on anti-Semitism and hate groups ... http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/3041/edition_id/53/format/html/displaystory.html


Buchanan's vicious twisted perspective adds nothing to the debate ...

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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:43 AM
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2. Again, he states the obvious with his own special brand of nationalism.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:46 AM
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4. It's discouraging
to see so many DUers cheering on that racist homophobe, and linking to WorldNutDaily.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:09 AM
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10. Gee, the Republicans wouldn't cheer someone jumping ship on
the Democrats and start using him as an example of "seeing the light", would they?

*cough* Zell Miller *cough*
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:40 AM
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14. This isn't about Republican v. Democrat
and Buchanan hasn't jumped ship to become a liberal. He's a racist, homophobe. It's really that simple.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:56 AM
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22. do you really think buchannan is an example of "seeing the light"?
He's always stood against those in his party who defer to israel. This is not an example of him changing his tune at all.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:48 PM
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31. He might very well be
But has it not occurred to you that we need someone on the "other side" who can bring some of the repubs to their senses after this idiot's term of office ends, and who better than another (possibly) racist homophobe?

Pat Buchanan is NOT our friend, and I will always point that out readily. BUT it's surprising that he, a non-neocon, old fashioned conservative can state an opinion remarkably similar to our own in many ways when it comes to this illegal regime, and who might be able to influence any upcoming election in which right extremists like the neocons are running.

I've noticed that you don't seem to have a very open mind about Buchanan, and while most of us wouldn't give him the time of day most of the time, his current opinion is helping in many ways to hopefully bring the right wing a little closer to center again--something it hasn't been in a very long time. And we need to bring it back to a point where moderates on both sides can find something they agree on. Many of us are much farther to the left, but trying to cross the chasm that is the middle could certainly be worth our while if a bridge can be built between the extremes.

I believe fervently that anyone on the right who follows the "old" rules of conservatism are potential allies when the decision comes down to moderation or extreme right politics. I don't "hate" people who take a stand and choose for themselves reasons why they voted for who they did, but I do hate the far right that demands that anything further to the left than themselves deserve to be killed or, in some cases, exterminated. And because of this illegal regime's propagandistic PR, too many people who would normally be in the middle have been led closer to the edge of the right than they normally would go. If some conservative can talk them back away from that ledge, then why shouldn't we be happy?

It doesn't matter if that person is a homophobe or a racist--shit, enough people even here at DU hide that part of themselves and will never admit it even if it's true. Many people just have biases that they don't realize they have. More often than not, a person who started in the middle can have enough of an open mind to look at some things a little differently when they have had the opportunity to work with them or find opinions to share.

Isn't your hatred just as powerful in the same negative way, that you have closed your mind to the possibilities that there are some people on the right to center who could become, if not allies, at least united against the RRR? If we all hated everyone who ever crossed our path and with whom we disagreed, this would be a very solitary place.

For instance, I've posted some times about my best friend, who I've known for over 20 years, who has become a fundie, and who spouts off about the bible and all the literal interpretations, and about all the secret societies which are oppressing poor fundies and creationists, and how secular humanists are so apathetic to the needs of people. Well, I rarely argue with her. She can spout off all she wants, and I've told her my side of it, and she's calmed down enough not to try to preach to me, and I've confronted her on several occasions that I refuse to buy into her brainwashing. So we agree to disagree on the subject and still care and love each other despite our differences. I DO hate what the RRR has done to her, but I know that for her, she was very vulnerable at a very low point in her life when the movement seduced her, and that being involved in it is a source of strength for her. I can't take that away from her, and she obviously felt grateful to her newfound beliefs when her mother passed away last year, and it gave her comfort.

It's not that easy, I know, to accept differing beliefs when one of them is so radical and inconceivable like the RRR, but in reality these are still. living breathing people who believe these things, and if taken on an individual basis, it's a different scenario when you are making sweeping generalizations (which I do when I refer to the whole RRR).

Pat Buchanan is wrong on many counts, but like all human beings, he has some very strong opinions as well, and right now, he is saying things that might very well wake up some on the right who have become disillusioned with the Bush regime. And while we might hate other things which he might stand for, we must applaud his own courage in speaking up on these topics.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:48 AM
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5. Pat Buchanan
is often on target in his views regarding international politics. His views on domestic policy tend to be offensive. That keeps some people from recognizing the value in having Buchanan pounding away at the lies of the neoconservatives on network tv.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:02 PM
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36. How very right you are
It does do us good as a country to have Pat slamming Neocons, and his domestic policy is offensive!

I think you nailed it.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:49 AM
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6. To be fair here
The Goddamn Nazis were in favor of a clean environment but they were still Goddamn Nazis. Pat Buchanan is a loathsome rightwing populist.

On the other hand, his views on the misguided neo-imperialism of the ** cabal are the same as mine. How unsettling. Ugh.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:15 AM
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12. Don't be Unsettled
It is a sign that maybe, finally, average people in this are beginning to get a clue.

That is the value of what Pat Buchanan is saying -- the Bushites and neocons are destroying this country.

Lou Dobbs now understands the scandal of electronic voting machines.

Charles Barkley, once the darling of Rush Slime-bog, now says, "I was a Republican - until they lost their minds."

Paul Craig Roberts, a Reaganite, blasts the Bushites daily.

So, instead of trashing everything about Buchanan, take this as recognition of the genuine horror of Bush/Cheney/Rove.

Churchill said about the alliance with Stalin during WW2 that he would make a pact "with the Devil himself" if that's what it took to defeat Hitler.

Considering the danger our country is now in because of Bush ... I'd make that pact with Buchanan right now if that's what it takes to rid us of these criminals in the White House.

Our very lives may depend upon it.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:10 AM
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23. buchanan has offered--and will offer--no alliance
he was a vocal critic of bush's iraq war policy as well, but still endorsed bush over kerry. The next time he supports a dem or a liberal will be the first time.

He is often right about bush's foreign policy, but that won't ever stop him from working to defeat democrats. Churchill and Stalin had a common, bigger enemy. Buchanan and the democratic party do not.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:23 PM
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28. right

his articles re: Iraq and the neocons are spot on but when he went ahead and endorsed * over Kerry, instead of even remaining neutral, i was appalled.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:57 PM
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35. It doesn't matter
It's not those on the left that he has to convince--it's his own side, those who hate the Bush regime, but might consider listening to a more moderate (foreign policy) voice. As I said above, all we want is to bring some repubs away from the brink of total extreme right insanity, and place them more firmly into the right to center spot where they might have been, pre-Bush. It's only when the right has come back from the place they're currently in that they might be more accepting of a truce, compromise or other potential solution which will keep us all from annihilation from the far right.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:59 PM
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44. my point is that he's not an ally, nor has he "come around," and it'd be
foolish to think otherwise.

I agree that he can be useful, and that liberals and progressives can use his arguments to sway certain people who might be on the brink of abandoning this regime--either swaying them to vote against the gop or, on a larger scale, to make them certain conservatives less enthusiastic about the party as a whole.

But to imagine him an ally or someone who is somehow coming around (or even someone who "gets it") is to thoroughly misread the situation. I'm sure a lot of old-fashioned, hard-line conservatives agree with Buchanan. But many of the same would still like to see the Democratic Party pummeled into irrelevance.

I think from Buchanan's perspective, he is waging this battle not for the sake of the country, but for the soul of his party. He predicted that a Kerry win in '04 would result in an immediate civil war between "conservatives" and neocons. The truth is that the bush victory didn't prevent that war, it simply delayed it. Buchanan's comments on the current situation are part of that civil war (notice that earlier in the article he directly attacks neocon bill kristol). That kind of infighting is certainly good for the Democratic Party.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:09 AM
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45. Yes
This is definitely the attitude I have about it myself. I look forward to hearing comments from Buchanan's side of the fence because the GOP has long maintained that Dems do not have a lot in common with each other, and that we're a bunch of diverse groups with little in common with each other, other than the fact that we're not GOP members. But with this kind of split within the GOP, it can be used to separate out the loonies from those who are seriously conservatives, who don't have neocon values and who are worthy participants in the deomocratic process. In other words, opponents whose values we completely disagree with, but who are not so whacked out that they will go to the extremes to spread their message.
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:03 PM
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29. Amen
We need as many allies as we can get against the Bush dictatorship. And Buchanan is definitely right on some of his economic issues. The only way to get the NeoCon-Artists out is to make new alliances, not new enemies.

unlawflcombatnt

EconomicPopulistCommentary

EconomicPatriotForum

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The economy needs balance between the "means of production" & "means of consumption."
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:55 AM
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7. It's the REPUBLICANS- Not the NEOCONS
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 08:56 AM by johnlal
Pat always talks about the Neocons in attempts to distinguish them from the Republican party. Pat-- this IS the Republican party. Face it, the party has changed. The Republicans are no longer interested in mundane issues like balanced budgets or campaign finance reform. The Republicans don't care about personal liberties now that Janet Reno is gone. The Republicans are now the party of Nation-Building and of Global Corporations.

And, by the way, Pat, you and your ilk have been replaced by Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Malkin.

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:04 AM
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8. He is a Nazi who hate the Jews
Israel will never get a fair hearing from him, not that they deserve one for this latest adventure of theirs but still Pat is never going to say any good about Israel.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:08 AM
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9. Yes, but at least he is laying off the Mexicans for a little while
They get a little breather.

Don
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:10 AM
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11. Go get 'em Pat. (eom)
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:38 AM
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13. Pigs are flying
I agree with Pat Buchanan!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:04 AM
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16. ...

:rofl:

Love your cats!
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Broke In Jersey Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:51 AM
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15. He seems to always nail it on the head on our foreign policy! n/t
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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:11 AM
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17. I can't stop watching McLaughlin group every week

Pat Buchanan's consistantly critical of Dumbya, not that Pat's alternative wouldn't be horrifying but it's nice to see that not all the conservatives have to be mindless followers. Still hate the man.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:33 AM
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18. All he needs is a weekend with Paul Craig Roberts and he'll be
Hell on wheels. This is cogent and totally accurate. He speaks the truth.

:wtf: is going on? Attacking a country for the presence of a political-military movement
that has that country intimidated.

A little history is always in order. In this case it's short. Lebanon's military history
is like that of Costa Rica, not much. They are too busy creating and building businesses
to be bothered with a military of any status.

Given this, how stupid they think we are, to think that these attacks are even remotely in
the realm of logis.

Shame shame shame on the neoconservitives everywhere. No wonder Frances Fukyama jumped ship
a few months ago (he was one of the originals, "The End of History" etc. )

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:33 AM
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19. World Net Daily and Pat Buchanan
World Net Daily is an interesting choice of sources for information.

It is, to put it mildly, very right-wing.

Their lead story as of now is:
Palestinian terrorists prepare to target U.S.

They also have a special offer to get Ann Coulter's book for free!

source: www.wnd.com

As for Pat Buchanan:

Here is an excerpt from Pat Buchanan's speech at the 1992 Republican Convention. I remember throwing things at the tv while watching it:

"The agenda Clinton & Clinton would impose on America—abortion on demand, a litmus test for the Supreme Court, homosexual rights, discrimination against religious schools, women in combat—that’s change, all right. But it is not the kind of change America wants. It is not the kind of change America needs. And it is not the kind of change we can tolerate in a nation that we still call God’s country."

Excerpted from "Know Your Right-Wing Speakers"
Source: http://www.campusprogress.org/tools/282/
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:35 AM
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20. endorsed Bush twice...eom
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:41 AM
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21. Given that Buchanan thinks Hitler was a good leader...
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 10:41 AM by WildEyedLiberal
... it's not too surprising to hear that he hates Israel.

What I find ironic is that the anti-Israel elements on DU use Buchanan to back up their arguments and then claim that they are not anti-semitic. Well, here's a hint: if you're not anti-semitic, maybe you should stop using a KNOWN ANTI-SEMITE to bolster your point of view!

Geez, this is disgusting! What's next, are DUers going to start lionizing Aryan Stormfront because they disagree with the Iraq war on the grounds that it's a "pro-Zionist" invasion?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:41 AM
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25. that
is a cogent observation.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:56 PM
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34. Some of the more ludicrous " reasoning" I have seen here
lately... I swear I was going to check various KKK sites for the sources. They were 180 degrees whacked off from any definition of the term "progressive"
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:14 PM
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37. I didn't know that about Pat Buchanan until I just googled him
regarding his views on Jews and Hitler. I saw what looked like reasonable criticism of Israel in several quotes, things that could be legitimate questions regarding the relationship between the U.S. and Israel. But then I saw some things that looked pretty bad, like his praise of Hitler as a man of courage and his proposition that Hitler should not have been destroyed, because the Germans voted him in. Apparently, the lives of the Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, communists, trade unionists, and handicapped that Hitler took among the German citizenry, not to mention the millions of Slavs and partisans that Hitler murdered are of no consequence to Pat Buchanan.

I will see him in a whole new light from now on.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:16 AM
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24. Please stop posting Pat Buchanan shit here. He's a RACIST like no other.
Immigrants and People of Color
"There is nothing wrong with us sitting down and arguing that issue that we are a European country." (Newsday, 11/15/92)

Buchanan on affirmative action: "How, then, can the feds justify favoring sons of Hispanics over sons of white Americans who fought in World War II or Vietnam?" (syndicated column, 1/23/95)

In a September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition, Buchanan described multiculturalism as "an across-the-board assault on our Anglo-American heritage."

"If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?" ("This Week With David Brinkley," 1/8/91)

Remarks about Jewish Population
Referred to Capitol Hill as "Israeli-occupied territory." (St. Louis Post Dispatch, 10/20/90)

During the Gulf crisis: "There are only two groups that are beating the drums for war in the Middle East -- the Israeli defense ministry and its 'amen corner' in the United States." ("McLaughlin Group," 8/26/90)

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path." (The Guardian, 1/14/92)

Writing of "group fantasies of martyrdom," Buchanan challenged the historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel exhaust at Treblinka: "Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody." (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan's columns have run in the Liberty Lobby's Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist concoction.

Buchanan called for closing the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals, because it was "running down 70-year-old camp guards." (New York Times, 4/21/87)

Buchanan was vehement in pushing President Reagan -- despite protests -- to visit Germany's Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi SS troops were buried. At a White House meeting, Buchanan reportedly reminded Jewish leaders that they were "Americans first" -- and repeatedly scrawled the phrase "Succumbing to the pressure of the Jews" in his notebook. Buchanan was credited with crafting Ronald Reagan's line that the SS troops buried at Bitburg were "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps." (New York Times, 5/16/85; New Republic, 1/22/96)

After Cardinal O'Connor criticized anti-Semitism during the controversy over construction of a convent near Auschwitz, Buchanan wrote: "If U.S. Jewry takes the clucking appeasement of the Catholic cardinalate as indicative of our submission, it is mistaken. When Cardinal O'Connor of New York seeks to soothe the always irate Elie Wiesel by reassuring him 'there are many Catholics who are anti-Semitic'...he speaks for himself. Be not afraid, Your Eminence; just step aside, there are bishops and priests ready to assume the role of defender of the faith." (New Republic, 10/22/90)

The Buchanan '96 campaign's World Wide Web site included an article blaming the death of White House aide Vincent Foster on the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad -- and alleging that Foster and Hillary Clinton were Mossad spies. (The campaign removed the article after its existence was reported by a Jewish on-line news service; Jewish Telegraphic Agency, 2/21/96.)

In his September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition, Buchanan declared: "Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free." (ADL Report, 1994)

On Gays
In a 1972 memo to Richard Nixon, Buchanan referred to one of George McGovern's leading financial contributors as a "screaming fairy." (Newsday, 2/8/89) Buchanan has repeatedly used the term "sodomites," and has referred to gays as "the pederast proletariat." (Washington Post, 2/9/92)

"Homosexuality involves sexual acts most men consider not only immoral, but filthy. The reason public men rarely say aloud what most say privately is they are fearful of being branded 'bigots' by an intolerant liberal orthodoxy that holds, against all evidence and experience, that homosexuality is a normal, healthy lifestyle." (syndicated column, 9/3/89)

In a 1977 column urging a "thrashing" of gay groups, Buchanan wrote: "Homosexuality is not a civil right. Its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the Weimar Republic, with a decay of society and a collapse of its basic cinder block, the family." (New Republic, 3/30/92)

"Gay rights activists seek to substitute, for laws rooted in Judeo-Christian morality, laws rooted in the secular humanist belief that all consensual sexual acts are morally equal. That belief is anti-biblical and amoral; to codify it into law is to codify a lie." (Buchanan column in Wall Street Journal, 1/21/93)

On AIDS, Buchanan wrote in 1983: "The poor homosexuals -- they have declared war upon nature, and now nature is extracting an awful retribution (AIDS)." (Los Angeles Times, 11/28/86) Later that year, he demanded that New York City Ed Koch and New York Gov. Mario Cuomo cancel the Gay Pride Parade or else "be held personally responsible for the spread of the AIDS plague." "With 80,000 dead of AIDS, our promiscuous homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on Satanism and suicide," Buchanan wrote in 1990 (syndicated column, 10/17/90). In the 1992 campaign, he declared: "AIDS is nature's retribution for violating the laws of nature." (Seattle Times, 7/31/93)

On Women
"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism." (syndicated column, 11/22/83)

"The real liberators of American women were not the feminist noise-makers, they were the automobile, the supermarket, the shopping center, the dishwasher, the washer-dryer, the freezer." (Right from the Beginning, p. 149)

"If a woman has come to believe that divorce is the answer to every difficult marriage, that career comes before children ... no democratic government can impose another set of values upon her." (Right from the Beginning, p. 341)

On Democracy
Attacking what he considers the "democratist temptation, the worship of democracy as a form of governance," Buchanan commented: "Like all idolatries, democratism substitutes a false god for the real, a love of process for a love of country." (Patrick J. Buchanan: From the Right, newsletter, Spring/90)

In a January, 1991 column, Buchanan suggested that "quasi-dictatorial rule" might be the solution to the problems of big municipalities and the federal fiscal crisis: "If the people are corrupt, the more democracy, the worse the government." (Washington Times, 1/9/91) He has written disparagingly of the "one man, one vote Earl Warren system."

In Right from the Beginning, Buchanan refers to Spanish dictator Francisco Franco as a "Catholic savior." He called Franco, along with Chile's Gen. Pinochet, "soldier-patriots." (syndicated column 9/17/89) Both men overthrew democracy in their countries.

Buchanan devotes a chapter of his autobiography -- "As We Remember Joe" -- to defending Senator Joe McCarthy. He advocated that Nixon "burn the tapes" during Watergate, and he criticized Reagan for failing to pardon Oliver North over Iran-contra.

Buchanan, shortly before he announced he was running for president in 1995: "You just wait until 1996, then you'll see a real right-wing tyrant." (The Nation, 6/26/95)
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:50 PM
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32. The Broken Clock
I guess it is only a matter of time before people start using David Duke. :puke: I am so sick of the "broken clock" analogy. Is this not the "Democratic Underground?!" Did the name change?! Since when, even if "correct" in the eyes of some, should a RIGHT-WING BIGOT be an acceptable source?!

:puke:

Good job on pointing out what a POS he really is!

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:42 AM
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26. Buchanan is right for the wrong reasons...
kinda like Dobbs on immigration.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:53 AM
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27. Pat sees the big picture and that gives him a pat on the back
from me...Israel is protecting itself just dang where is the diplomacy??? I think somewhere along the line Military men took preference over diplomacy... and I know sometimes like WWII that has to happen.

My question is WWIII is here and is this what we want for our country and Israel... My heart goes out for all the people of the world right now...we are heading into madness...
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:17 PM
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30. Buchanan can say this but no Dem Senator can? nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:52 PM
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33. Pat Buchannan just sounds sane because the Neocons are batshit crazy
It's really a sad state of affairs.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:16 PM
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38. Pat Buchanan? Criticizing Israel?
Whoa. Say it isn't so! :eyes:
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:26 PM
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39. sorry Pat....
....you and traditional repugs should not be allowed to wash away the stench of bush with truth....people need to be reminded over and over that pukes and bush are one-in-the-same, even if you're not....

....any puke redemption should not be in our interest....
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:28 PM
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41. Pat Buchanan, notorious anti semite. Great source. nt.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:31 PM
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42. You're welcome to his scummy company...
...but the real question is: what sort of "progressive" or "liberal" cheerleads for the likes of Pat Buchanan? Not any sort I know.

A whiff of Fresno is in the air...
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CantForget Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:35 PM
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43. Against WW11
Yeah, he was also against the USA getting involved in WW11 regarding America in Europe
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:30 AM
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46. A low day for the Democratic Party...
...when Buchanan makes more sense than do its leaders on *any* matter.

Meanwhile, John "Send Me!" Kerry is going on about how Rush shouldn't steal credit from the Democrats for arming Israel. Wotta statesman.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:47 AM
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47. Buchanan & Dobbs
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 12:54 AM by Marie26
The new darlings of the left wing. :crazy: And the new must-see news source for liberals: World Net Daily. :crazy:
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