GOP and Ann Coulter against Native Americans

[azndndude]

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=11681
Can't we send this BITCH back to Europe?

[Monkeyman]

1. Just send her to the Middle East

[Blue Belle]

15. Amen... let her single handidly convert Islam to Chritianity...

let's see how long she lasts. Stupid racist hateful bitch!
:eyes:

[KingFlorez]

2. He talked about her adam's apple, LOL

I had no idea she had attack Native Americans too. Ann, they were here first.

[unpossibles]

3. and I thought they were against illegal immigration

but then again, the RW has never exactly been consistent with any of their beliefs, have they?

[redqueen]

4. how anyone can believe that the media is liberal

when off-the-chart right-wing freakazoids like her and glen beck are so frequently heard from... but still-on-the-chart left-wing non-freakazoids like howard zinn and noam chomsky are not...

oh wait that's right i forgot... lemmings who believe that nonsense have hardly any thinking skills at all, let alone critical thinking skills...

[eggbeater]

5. Cold hearted brainless comment

But I also have a couple of issues with the article.

The biggest issue concerning Ann Coulter is, what's up with "her" man size Adams apple?
To keep an article realistic and on track, insults should not be included. Even if they are true, and even if the other side does it also. Credibility is important when trying to make a point.



Ann Coulter in her report "Not Crazy Horse Just Crazy" attacked Ward Churchill over his comments of comparing Indian reservations to the equivalent of Nazi concentration camps.

The Native Americans are allowed to and often do leave the reservations to seek a standard of living higher than is available in a reservation. The Jews were not allowed such privilage. If all the Native Americans decided to no longer live on a reservation, the reservations would cease to exist.


but back to my major issue with the article, articles of such should be written with fact an truth. They should not include personal insults as far as appearence of individuals. Personal insults that would reflect the individual in questions knowlege of a subject are allowed as long as there is a little fact to back it up.

but never looks.

[melnjones]

6. I understood the concentration camp reference

to mean not the current situation, but issues primarily in the past when Native Americans did NOT have the freedom that they do now. I mean, they aren't being massacred right now either, so otherwise I don't think that comment would make sense.

[eggbeater]

8. Maybe so

but since I have no power to change what has already taken place in the past, I can only work to changing what the future holds.
Bringing up past reference to try and embellish a situation today does not serve a valid purpose in fixing tomorrow what we see as wrong today.

Or maybe I just look at things wrongly.
But in this case, I hardly think that the closed down reservations of yesteryear will ever again be seen. I tend to look to the future and see only improvements coming on every front providing we continue to press for them.

[melnjones]

14. No, I think comparing to past situations and events

can help some people to understand the gravity of the problem being dealt with. Americans are ignorant, largely, of what the Native American population has been put through in the last centuries. Those with some education on the subject understand that some of the natives were killed. At worst, we imagine Thanksgiving and settlers and indians eating at the same table. Neither is a truthful description, and the latter is outright villianous as a portrayal of the plight of the Native Americans in our history. So some compare it to a historical event that we are all more familiar with- the Holocaust. It's not to say they are the same in every respect, but to generate an understanding of the seriousness of the prejudice and really genocide with which the Native Americans were met by the settlers.

[Cleita]

9. Yes, they were forced off the land they were living on that

settlers wanted to build their ranches and farms and forced onto reservations that were the worst arable land that no one wanted. They couldn't hunt or live where they traditionally had. The same was done to the Jews who were forced from their jobs and homes and sent to relocation camps although the relocation was really extermination.

[Sequoia]

10. And the Americans of Japanese descent during WW2

[Cleita]

12. I actually knew one of them a born American from Nipomo

here on the central coast, whose family was taken to the concentration camps for the duration of the war. He was only a boy then and a born American. They lost their land and everything.

[Sequoia]

17. Sad. Did you ever read: Farewell to Manzanar?

Farewell to Manzanar: A True Story of Japanese American Experience During and After the World War II Internment

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/0553272586.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


I met Jeanne Wakatsuki Houston at work about 2 years ago. Very remarkable woman.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553272586/sr=1-1/qid=1153502659/ref=sr_1_1/103-1735812-9255810?ie=UTF8&s=books

[Cleita]

19. No, I've heard of it and must pick it up to read. n/t

[Sequoia]

7. That does it! That's the final straw.

It's time to scalp her and flay her skin. I've been very aware of the horror and shame heaped on white american's heads for their treatment of "NATIVE" (as in we are not the immigrants here) Americans. It didn't start at the Trail of Tears, Wounded Knee 1 & 2, or Cheyenne Autumn. No, it started with the children of the Pilgrims and Puritans who wanted more land. All the work the Pilgrims did to live together in peace was usurped by their greedy children and grandchildren. I just finished "The Mayflower" and found myself cheering for King Philip. In the end they chopped off his head and put it on a pole in Boston for 20 years! Back then, cutting off heads, hands, and being drawn and quartered was the thing to do. The NAs who were friends of the Plymouth Colony ran away when this war started and built themselves a fort which was penetrated and burned to the ground with women and children screaming in the inferno.

One guy who had some decency, Benjamin Church, didn't want to do this because it was one of the coldest times in history (Little ice age) and told the troops they should stay put because there was warmth and food and many guys were wounded. Of course no one wanted to listen to the Indian Lover so they burnt it all up and marched back through the snow so of course many men died of their wounds. I've read many accounts of these through the years of western expansion where the English Americans destroyed things they could've used. Waste, always waste. And when you look at what's going on in Iraq you can see that we haven't changed one bit. So now everything's those Indians fault. God help us. (Guess this turned into a book review)

[Tsiyu]

11. I'm almost to the end of Edward Rutherfurd's LONDON

and it amazes me how barbaric and uncivilized and superstitious Britain has been.

The Romans made metal roads and had central heat going in Londinium before their empire-building cost them the Bigger Empire.

It wasn't until many centuries and a lot of backward, Church-driven, monarchy-driven bullshit later that London saw central heat and decent roads again.

Really makes me rethink the natural tendency to view those pale UKers as inherently open-minded or intelligent as the history books taught me.

You know: that underlying theme that other cultures with darker skin are somehow "less than" the UK/European folk who won the rights to colonize this place.

[Sequoia]

16. Many still are too.

I knew a gal from Scotland who got upset if a knife and fork were crossed in the sink which, to her, signified matrial bickering. And black cats crossing your path was good luck.

[VelmaD]

13. Do have anything more useful to say...

than just posting a driveby gender slur? :eyes:

[tlsmith1963]

18. I Work For Native Americans!

And I get better health-insurance than I would get from some "corporate" entity owned by people who think like Ann does. Who says that you're better, Ann? At least Native Americans care about the people who work for them! I like them a lot more than the cold, uncaring neocons who are making most of this country poor.

Tammy

[Zorra]

20. Ann Coulter is a very, very sick individual. She needs full time

intensive psychiatric care and treatment.

Her ravings strongly indicate that she is a violent, psychotic sociopath, and IMO, this would be pretty hard to dispute.

[cantstandbush]

21. I guess it's ok for Italian and Jewish mafias to control casinos and

these mobs were much admired during their reign of crime in the US and Cuba. Witness all the movies made about them and the hero status of Buggsy Segal, Al Capone, Meyer Lansky, and the Gottis. But my people are demons for gaining in the casino industry? Freakin hypocrites.