Lehrer (PBS)—new polls—bush not getting bounce with Israel crisis

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1. Tom Oliphant reporting this now

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2. also said Biden, Bill Clinton makiing moves saying need special

envoy to be sent to ME>

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4. I do not know what polls Tom O. is referring to. He did not say.

[MissWaverly]

10. Rodeodance, they're the Gallup poll released today

but I can't find them quoted anywhere, Gallup is subscription only for some surveys.

The comment was that the American people surveyed showed no bounce for Bush over Israel's
actions and that they did not show an enthusiastic support of Israel for this which Americans
usually do. What Olliphant said and I agree with is that Americans have deja vu, we went
into Iraq to find the bad guy terrorists and solve the problem, 3 years later we see no
solution to the Iraq problem and the American people see Israel going down the same
road in Lebanon.

[MissWaverly]

13. tonight's transcript from the PBS Online Newshour with Jim Lehrer

What I find a little interesting about this crisis at this point is that the polling data is starting to come in, and President Bush does not appear to be holding a very strong hand. You would expect normally to have a very sharp spike in approval for what he is doing, but it's not showing up.
Gallup is showing almost a 10 percentage-point difference, in favor of disapproval, in terms of how he's handling this. Lebanon makes Americans unusually worried because of its history, which is not favorable.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec06/bo_07-21.html

[MissWaverly]

22. Comments on Biden, et al.

And I think it's very interesting late today to begin to see Democrats taking independent actions in this crisis, compared to what was going on in Congress earlier this week when you get these routine resolutions that pass overwhelmingly. Joe Biden, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, possible presidential candidate, Harry Reid, the Democratic leader in the Senate, and interestingly enough, even Bill Clinton himself beginning to make noises about things like special envoys. How does it help this process...

JIM LEHRER: Yes, Biden sent a letter late today asking for a special envoy.

TOM OLIPHANT: I don't mean to be cynical about this, but I have a sneaking suspicion that some of those Democrats are aware of the polling data, and that may be why this was a late-breaking development.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec06/bo_07-21.html

[movonne]

11. Then they will go to phase 2, bombing syria, phase 3, bombing

Iran...I get the feeling there will be a draft..

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. And rightly so, he has done less than he did after Katrina.

If anything his numbers ought to be dropping.

[AlCzervik]

5. i should hope not.

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8. He was referring to the disapproval poll, which i think he said is going u

p--but I am not sure as I did not catch it all.

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6. David Brooks is defending WH saying lots going on to get a coalition

peacekeeping force on.

[MissWaverly]

21. Here's a snip of what Brooks said

And they're doing a bunch of things to try to make that the case. The first thing they're doing -- and they're on the phone all the time these days -- is to get the moderate Arab governments, the Saudis, the Jordanians, and the Egyptians, together with the Europeans and us to create a Security Council resolution that can send in international force, and then that international force will retake control of the south of Lebanon.

The second thing they're doing is setting up the financial packages that will allow the Lebanese government to have something to offer the people of south Lebanon when the military thing is all over.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec06/bo_07-21.html

[LeftCoast]

7. Wouldn't you have to DO something to expect a poll bounce?

Why should Chimpy get a poll bounce when he hasn't done a damned thing?!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. Maybe the endorsement of the American Chiropractic Association?

Or the Tourette Syndrome Association?

[mhr]

9. Oh Bush Got A Bounce Alright - We Know Where It Was Too

eom

[partylessinOhio]

14. Oh, please, people are dying and receiving terrible injuries so * should

get a :bounce:

What a sick country this is!

[MissWaverly]

15. well, maybe the 10 points - may lead to diplomacy

these neocons see war as a glory road, it's all profit and drum rolls for them, the pain
and the suffering happen to someone else. I just hope they finally realize that this
is now how reality works and a little child's life is more than a tic on a spreadsheet
somewhere.

[calico1]

16. So I guess the pig roast didn't help? n/t

[Raksha]

17. Why would anyone expect him to get a bounce?

After all, he's never shown any leadership before. Why start now?

[Imagevision]

18. Why should Bush get some sort of BOUNCE?? as Iraq civil war grows daily??!

[MissWaverly]

20. Yes, it is in a death spiral

I keep thinking of Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9-11 and the shots of Iraqis going about their daily lives in 2003, so happy and now this, this is what we have given them with our occupation.

[pscot]

19. Geez, there must be somebody he can kill

to raise those poll numbers.

[gumby]

23. Lehrer is the PBS version of Fox News.

It's the 'brie and cheese' (to quote Dear Leader) version of Fox.

At least Fox is up front in their propaganda. Lehrer hides behind his facade of 'respectability.'

I really, really, really, really despise that program. It's insidious. PBS should hang their head in shame for promoting this driveling pap as 'upper crust' "news."

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