When you have roving bands of murderers in Baghdad......

[Joe Fields]

When you have bands of armed thugs, murdering people at random on the streets of Baghdad, where U.S. forces are supposed to be in control, and the deaths are beginning to climb to one hundred a day, and a steady stream of rockets are being fired at the Green Zone, and the Iraqi congress is throwing up their hands in abject frustration, ready to disband, then can there be any doubt, even a shred to the most ardent of Bush supporters that the administration's policies are total failures, and unless we want to prolong the inevitable to just try and save what political face, which at this point would be laughable, if it weren't so serious, at the expense of more American servicepeople's lives, so that the Bushies can spin this disaster into some kind of twisted victory, isn't all of this a clear sign that we need a swift and immediate pullout of all troops, and appeal to the U.N. to negotiate a settlement between the Shia, the Sunni and the Kurds?

America has never been able to admit failure. History has repeated itself, and before long, we are going to get kicked out. It's going to look like the end of the Vietnam war, with personnel scrambling to get the hell out of Dodge.

[benburch]

1. "Progress"

[Joe Fields]

2. Any pretense of American military keeping order there

is crumbling at an exponential rate, like a dam that has developed a crack.

[DELUSIONAL]

3. Well bush has moved on to his next war -- right on time

he probably spends very little time now even thinking about Iraq.

Now he's thinking about Israel and Lebanon -- it's a new war with new bodies.

He is in an evil class all by himself -- because he has bigger weapons and the assets of your kids to spend.